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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 20:41:23 GMT 1
So shall I just say he's brilliant instead? Jackson is poor. I don't see this "there's a player in there" or "great prospect" at all. I have every sympathy with him, but I don't rate him. I haven't tweeted him or abused him, I've just given an opinion on his abilities as a footballer on a message board. Do people have any thoughts for Alex Pritchard's mental health when they're giving him dogs abuse? Or Sorba Thomas when they're branding him a nonce and chanting "paedo paedo paedo" at him? Where do we draw the line? Do we stop having opinions on players because it might upset them? Some people on here have said far worse things about other current players, yet as far as I can see, no-one has called it out and thought about how that player might be feeling mentally. Or perhaps its just my opinion that warrants being called out? You seem happiest when you can start an argument so I’m not sure how much is really your opinion and how much you put out there to get a reaction. I’m not getting into debate with you. What I posted is my opinion and I have no more to say on it. I don't post anything to get a reaction. I post my opinions, same as you. Do you really think people having a go at me makes me happy? Others have said Jackson is shite on this board today but no-one has bothered to call them out. |
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Post by blueray4 on Jul 25, 2024 20:43:48 GMT 1
Can someone remind me how to block someone please.
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 20:44:55 GMT 1
Can someone remind me how to block someone please. Click on my profile and then the settings button on the right and it'll say Block 👍 |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 25, 2024 23:16:04 GMT 1
I'll do what I want, thanks. Just stand back a bit and think about it, put yourself in these players positions. Jackson looked a real prospect when he started playing first team level. I remember him scoring a cracking free kick in a preseason game, against Morcombe I think. He also played well early last season at right back. He struggled last season trying to play neat football at left back and losing the ball, but he really wasn’t alone in that. Being strong mentally is a huge thing, especially when you are in the public eye the way these lads are. Having armchair pundits calling them shit on social media must really add to the pressure they feel. It is unnecessary and unhelpful. Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? |
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Post by deucebigalow77 on Jul 25, 2024 23:21:29 GMT 1
Just stand back a bit and think about it, put yourself in these players positions. Jackson looked a real prospect when he started playing first team level. I remember him scoring a cracking free kick in a preseason game, against Morcombe I think. He also played well early last season at right back. He struggled last season trying to play neat football at left back and losing the ball, but he really wasn’t alone in that. Being strong mentally is a huge thing, especially when you are in the public eye the way these lads are. Having armchair pundits calling them shit on social media must really add to the pressure they feel. It is unnecessary and unhelpful. Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Sometimes being positive is a good thing. Try it |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2024 23:22:33 GMT 1
Just stand back a bit and think about it, put yourself in these players positions. Jackson looked a real prospect when he started playing first team level. I remember him scoring a cracking free kick in a preseason game, against Morcombe I think. He also played well early last season at right back. He struggled last season trying to play neat football at left back and losing the ball, but he really wasn’t alone in that. Being strong mentally is a huge thing, especially when you are in the public eye the way these lads are. Having armchair pundits calling them shit on social media must really add to the pressure they feel. It is unnecessary and unhelpful. Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Also great to see how quick some fans are to call our players shit, or the like. Even when they are obviously not, you don't get to the playoff final by being shit. So maybe there is a bigger picture which is more about how they are trained, organised and motivated, how they are bonded into a good team? Some folk just love to have a whipping boy or two. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 23:30:44 GMT 1
Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Also great to see how quick some fans are to call our players shit, or the like. Even when they are obviously not, you don't get to the playoff final by being shit. So maybe there is a bigger picture which is more about how they are trained, organised and motivated, how they are bonded into a good team? Some folk just love to have a whipping boy or two. You do get relegated by being shit though. Most of that Play-off team aren't even here anymore, so not sure of the relevance. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 23:31:40 GMT 1
Just stand back a bit and think about it, put yourself in these players positions. Jackson looked a real prospect when he started playing first team level. I remember him scoring a cracking free kick in a preseason game, against Morcombe I think. He also played well early last season at right back. He struggled last season trying to play neat football at left back and losing the ball, but he really wasn’t alone in that. Being strong mentally is a huge thing, especially when you are in the public eye the way these lads are. Having armchair pundits calling them shit on social media must really add to the pressure they feel. It is unnecessary and unhelpful. Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Careful, you'll be getting called out for having an opinion. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 25, 2024 23:32:25 GMT 1
Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Sometimes being positive is a good thing. Try it There's a difference between positivity and blind faith. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Jul 25, 2024 23:42:25 GMT 1
If we can beat Arthur Berlin we have nothing to worry about next season, we are going up, we are going up!!.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 25, 2024 23:53:47 GMT 1
Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Also great to see how quick some fans are to call our players shit, or the like. Even when they are obviously not, you don't get to the playoff final by being shit. So maybe there is a bigger picture which is more about how they are trained, organised and motivated, how they are bonded into a good team? Some folk just love to have a whipping boy or two. We got to the play off final because of Lewis obrien and Carlos Corberan. That final has pulled the wool over your eyes as to how bad our players are. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 8:18:13 GMT 1
Also great to see how quick some fans are to call our players shit, or the like. Even when they are obviously not, you don't get to the playoff final by being shit. So maybe there is a bigger picture which is more about how they are trained, organised and motivated, how they are bonded into a good team? Some folk just love to have a whipping boy or two. We got to the play off final because of Lewis obrien and Carlos Corberan. That final has pulled the wool over your eyes as to how bad our players are. Toffolo as well |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 8:19:13 GMT 1
To put a stop to the petty arguing…
‘Uddersfield vs Lec(h)e next - milk derby anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 10:52:43 GMT 1
Also great to see how quick some fans are to call our players shit, or the like. Even when they are obviously not, you don't get to the playoff final by being shit. So maybe there is a bigger picture which is more about how they are trained, organised and motivated, how they are bonded into a good team? Some folk just love to have a whipping boy or two. We got to the play off final because of Lewis obrien and Carlos Corberan. That final has pulled the wool over your eyes as to how bad our players are. O'Brien and Toffolo certainly improved us but two players don't get you to a playoff final, I would add Colwill to that as well. Carlos Corberan was certainly the main reason we did but that shows what a good coach can do with mostly the same players, which was the point I was making. |
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Post by golcarexile on Jul 26, 2024 10:57:11 GMT 1
We got to the play off final because of Lewis obrien and Carlos Corberan. That final has pulled the wool over your eyes as to how bad our players are. O'Brien and Toffolo certainly improved us but two players don't get you to a playoff final, I would add Colwill to that as well. Carlos Corberan was certainly the main reason we did but that shows what a good coach can do with mostly the same players, which was the point I was making. And Nicholls had an unbelievable season. The stars aligned (well, almost). Heck, Danny Ward even scored a few goals. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 26, 2024 11:07:11 GMT 1
O'Brien and Toffolo certainly improved us but two players don't get you to a playoff final, I would add Colwill to that as well. Carlos Corberan was certainly the main reason we did but that shows what a good coach can do with mostly the same players, which was the point I was making. And Nicholls had an unbelievable season. The stars aligned (well, almost). Heck, Danny Ward even scored a few goals. Don't think Nicholls made a mistake that season. |
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Post by ldotm on Jul 26, 2024 11:17:45 GMT 1
Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Careful, you'll be getting called out for having an opinion. That’s what a forum is for, discussing different opinions? |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 26, 2024 11:18:28 GMT 1
Careful, you'll be getting called out for having an opinion. That’s what a forum is for, discussing different opinions? Only certain opinions are allowed. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 26, 2024 11:21:59 GMT 1
O'Brien and Toffolo certainly improved us but two players don't get you to a playoff final, I would add Colwill to that as well. Carlos Corberan was certainly the main reason we did but that shows what a good coach can do with mostly the same players, which was the point I was making. And Nicholls had an unbelievable season. The stars aligned (well, almost). Heck, Danny Ward even scored a few goals. What's been forgotten is the impact that individual players can have on others. Take Jon Russell. That season he looked like he would be something special as he broke through. O'Brien did his running for him and created space which allowed Russell to do two things - take a touch, and bring others into play. Often O'Brien, who had taken a man with him, and then could be fed to drive us up the pitch. The result was that the midfield had a really good balance to it. The following season - no O'Brien and Russell looking like a wardrobe in the middle, a lumbering accident waiting to happen because he didn't have the space created by others, meaning he couldn't do what he was good at, when then allowed others to excel. End result: Russell sold after being vilified. One or two players can lift an entire team. They don't have to be Gerrard-style pull-em-up-by-the-bootstrap players - they just need to have something that facilitates others. Talking about O'Brien and Russell, one had the movement and ability to carry the ball, while the other had the ability to just play the ball and bring others into play, lifting the entire team. But one relied on the other. When one went and was not replaced, it meant the other suffered, and to the whole team's detriment. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 26, 2024 11:25:58 GMT 1
And Nicholls had an unbelievable season. The stars aligned (well, almost). Heck, Danny Ward even scored a few goals. What's been forgotten is the impact that individual players can have on others. Take Jon Russell. That season he looked like he would be something special as he broke through. O'Brien did his running for him and created space which allowed Russell to do two things - take a touch, and bring others into play. Often O'Brien, who had taken a man with him, and then could be fed to drive us up the pitch. The result was that the midfield had a really good balance to it. The following season - no O'Brien and Russell looking like a wardrobe in the middle, a lumbering accident waiting to happen because he didn't have the space created by others, meaning he couldn't do what he was good at, when then allowed others to excel. End result: Russell sold after being vilified. One or two players can lift an entire team. They don't have to be Gerrard-style pull-em-up-by-the-bootstrap players - they just need to have something that facilitates others. Talking about O'Brien and Russell, one had the movement and ability to carry the ball, while the other had the ability to just play the ball and bring others into play, lifting the entire team. But one relied on the other. When one went and was not replaced, it meant the other suffered, and to the whole team's detriment. But as well, Warnock-aside (in my opinion), the rest of the managers since then haven't laid a glove on Corberan. He was 1000 times better than any of Schofield, Fotheringham, Moore and Breitenreiter were. Corberan found a way to win and did it well. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 26, 2024 11:26:49 GMT 1
That’s what a forum is for, discussing different opinions? Only certain opinions are allowed. And from certain posters. I have seen the Ben Jackson comment, and even though many have said the same thing, even worded worse, only you have been jumped on. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 26, 2024 11:28:01 GMT 1
Only certain opinions are allowed. And from certain posters. I have seen the Ben Jackson comment, and even though many have said the same thing, even worded worse, only you have been jumped on. Colour me surprised  |
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Post by theterrier42 on Jul 26, 2024 11:29:22 GMT 1
Love how Town fans laud some of our players as ‘top prospects’ on the back of a good half in a pre season game or hitting the post or wall in a league game. On another note is this the season when Pat Jones ‘tears the league a new one’ or is that next year ? Careful, you'll be getting called out for having an opinion. I’ve always thought this about Jones. What has he actually shown other than being very fast? Other than a consolation against Norwich I don’t see where the hype has come from and add to that he’s always injured. Love to be proven wrong though! |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 26, 2024 11:31:52 GMT 1
What's been forgotten is the impact that individual players can have on others. Take Jon Russell. That season he looked like he would be something special as he broke through. O'Brien did his running for him and created space which allowed Russell to do two things - take a touch, and bring others into play. Often O'Brien, who had taken a man with him, and then could be fed to drive us up the pitch. The result was that the midfield had a really good balance to it. The following season - no O'Brien and Russell looking like a wardrobe in the middle, a lumbering accident waiting to happen because he didn't have the space created by others, meaning he couldn't do what he was good at, when then allowed others to excel. End result: Russell sold after being vilified. One or two players can lift an entire team. They don't have to be Gerrard-style pull-em-up-by-the-bootstrap players - they just need to have something that facilitates others. Talking about O'Brien and Russell, one had the movement and ability to carry the ball, while the other had the ability to just play the ball and bring others into play, lifting the entire team. But one relied on the other. When one went and was not replaced, it meant the other suffered, and to the whole team's detriment. But as well, Warnock-aside (in my opinion), the rest of the managers since then haven't laid a glove on Corberan. He was 1000 times better than any of Schofield, Fotheringham, Moore and Breitenreiter were. Corberan found a way to win and did it well. Oh absolutely. It all came together. The trouble with Corberan was that his system was so complex and reliant on so many specific moving parts, that when he went - and one or two of those moving parts also departed - the whole club slumped. Not helped by our inability to build a balanced squad, particularly in the middle of the park. It's why I'm hopeful this season - we've brought in two midfielders so far who seem to redress the balance, brought in sensible wing-backs, and although we're clearly deficient in one or two areas, we're working from a stronger and more balanced base that's not so reliant on the specific skillset of one or two individuals to lift the whole team. |
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Post by irverino on Jul 26, 2024 11:45:30 GMT 1
Careful, you'll be getting called out for having an opinion. I’ve always thought this about Jones. What has he actually shown other than being very fast? Other than a consolation against Norwich I don’t see where the hype has come from and add to that he’s always injured. Love to be proven wrong though! Maybe send him to California for the remaining 15 or so games......A bit similar to KP needs a good run somewhere to build his confidence back up, then see where we are at. (IMO) |
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Post by theterrier42 on Jul 26, 2024 12:43:46 GMT 1
I’ve always thought this about Jones. What has he actually shown other than being very fast? Other than a consolation against Norwich I don’t see where the hype has come from and add to that he’s always injured. Love to be proven wrong though! Maybe send him to California for the remaining 15 or so games......A bit similar to KP needs a good run somewhere to build his confidence back up, then see where we are at. (IMO) League 2 be better, the standard of that league isn’t good at all |
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Post by irverino on Jul 26, 2024 17:37:04 GMT 1
Towns opponents on Sunday (@noon) are Serie A side US Lecce who have a 38 man squad (inc 12 academy) in Austria & narrowly lost 2-1 to Turkish champions Galatasaray on Wednesday.
They start their league campaign at home to Europa League winners Atalanta on Mon 19th Aug but play Ligue one OGC Nice (finished 5th) in a home friendly next (4 Aug)......Having beaten German Bundesliga Werder Bremen (finished 9th) 2-0 last week Town are up against strong outfit & our lads should face a stern test before heading home.
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 26, 2024 18:49:08 GMT 1
Towns opponents on Sunday (@noon) are Serie A side US Lecce who have a 38 man squad (inc 12 academy) in Austria & narrowly lost 2-1 to Turkish champions Galatasaray on Wednesday. They start their league campaign at home to Europa League winners Atalanta on Mon 19th Aug but play Ligue one OGC Nice (finished 5th) in a home friendly next (4 Aug)......Having beaten German Bundesliga Werder Bremen (finished 9th) 2-0 last week Town are up against strong outfit & our lads should face a stern test before heading home. Good. We’ll learn plenty. Just hope, when we get beaten as is most likely, that there isn’t a gross overreaction. Lecce are clearly a very good outfit, and should really stretch us even if they play a ‘weakened’ side. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 26, 2024 19:16:39 GMT 1
Earlier on the thread, someone (sorry can't remember who) mentioned that through Transfermarket valuations they thought that Hertha Berlin were playing their second string against Town and that they'd played their first eleven against Cardiff.
Perhaps Hertha haven't sorted their squad numbers yet, but No 2,3,5,7,8,9,18 were playing for nearly all of the game against us.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 26, 2024 19:20:13 GMT 1
Earlier on the thread, someone (sorry can't remember who) mentioned that through Transfermarket valuations they thought that Hertha Berlin were playing their second string against Town and that they'd played their first eleven against Cardiff. Perhaps Hertha haven't sorted their squad numbers yet, but No 2,3,5,7,8,9,18 were playing for nearly all of the game against us. Also, our pressing seems to be getting organised rather than just ad hoc... and, what was Wiles doing in the six yard box for our second?. |
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