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Post by htafcokay on Aug 6, 2024 9:55:23 GMT 1
For what it's worth (probably not a lot), I like Jake Edwards. Me and another lad had a 10-minute conversation with him at an event last year and he was engaging, he listened, was knowledgeable and didn't need to spend 10 minutes talking to two random Town fans. Edwards is the CEO, he's not involved in football matters (that's why we have a Head of Football Operations), he's there to run the club and make sure everything is running day-to-day. The club is constantly being praised at the moment for all the progress off the pitch. Who do you think is overseeing all that? Nagle might be shelling the money out but he's not there day-to-day to oversee everything - it's Edwards. Some people on here, and other social media, genuinely don't even know the difference between Cartwright and Edwards and bizarrely just lump Edwards in with the same criticism. I get that but what the reporting lines? Does Cartwright report directly to Nagle or to Edwards? Do you know what the decision tree is? I would agree that the progress off the pitch is very encouraging and professional. However success on the pitch drives everything. Edwards will be looking at revenue generation and the better things on the pitch the more opportunities that presents to Edwards to make things better off the pitch. For example let's look at a scenario: This season doesn't go too well (NB: I am not predicting that) and Edwards says it his impacting his ability to "grow" the club. Who does he go to to challenge fortunes on the pitch? Mr Nagle or does he have any authority over the performance of Cartwright/Duff? I guess how he answers and performs in the interview may make these things clear. I would hope he has ultimate delegated authority from Mr Nagle because a diverse management structure doesn't strike me as a great idea. There needs to be ultimate accountability/decision making. Equally deferring everything to Mr Nagle ultimately can't be ideal given he isn't here regularly. Football results are everything. To precis the above waffle I would ask this question; who kicks Cartwright's ass if the football side fails? I don't do hypotheticals, I just say what I see. And in my brief experience of Jake Edwards, I think he's a decent bloke. The end. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 6, 2024 9:56:30 GMT 1
For what it's worth (probably not a lot), I like Jake Edwards. Me and another lad had a 10-minute conversation with him at an event last year and he was engaging, he listened, was knowledgeable and didn't need to spend 10 minutes talking to two random Town fans. Edwards is the CEO, he's not involved in football matters (that's why we have a Head of Football Operations), he's there to run the club and make sure everything is running day-to-day. The club is constantly being praised at the moment for all the progress off the pitch. Who do you think is overseeing all that? Nagle might be shelling the money out but he's not there day-to-day to oversee everything - it's Edwards. Some people on here, and other social media, genuinely don't even know the difference between Cartwright and Edwards and bizarrely just lump Edwards in with the same criticism. This is what I can’t get my head around.I’d imagine the most edwards has to do with any actual footballing matters is a signature on a contract once it’s all been taken care of.Bizarre some can’t differentiate. Also can’t believe we’re at the point where someone’s resting facial expression has become part of a discussion. Personally if I was bothered by that I’d just shut my eyes.Or just simply listen and not watch. Julian Winter was criticised for looking miserable. Jake Edwards smiles and he's criticised for having a smirk on his face. Town fans, eh? |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 6, 2024 10:03:23 GMT 1
I get that but what the reporting lines? Does Cartwright report directly to Nagle or to Edwards? Do you know what the decision tree is? I would agree that the progress off the pitch is very encouraging and professional. However success on the pitch drives everything. Edwards will be looking at revenue generation and the better things on the pitch the more opportunities that presents to Edwards to make things better off the pitch. For example let's look at a scenario: This season doesn't go too well (NB: I am not predicting that) and Edwards says it his impacting his ability to "grow" the club. Who does he go to to challenge fortunes on the pitch? Mr Nagle or does he have any authority over the performance of Cartwright/Duff? I guess how he answers and performs in the interview may make these things clear. I would hope he has ultimate delegated authority from Mr Nagle because a diverse management structure doesn't strike me as a great idea. There needs to be ultimate accountability/decision making. Equally deferring everything to Mr Nagle ultimately can't be ideal given he isn't here regularly. Football results are everything. To precis the above waffle I would ask this question; who kicks Cartwright's ass if the football side fails? I don't do hypotheticals, I just say what I see. And in my brief experience of Jake Edwards, I think he's a decent bloke. The end. Hypotheticals? What was hypothetical about my post? I was asking a question about the decision making process and who makes what calls. Additionally I didn't make any comments to suggest that Edwards was either a bad bloke or not doing a decent job. It is absolutely fine if you don't know how things work but let's not change the context of my post, which for the avoidance of doubt, was a question (about how things work). |
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Post by dezzly on Aug 6, 2024 10:55:13 GMT 1
I don't do hypotheticals, I just say what I see. And in my brief experience of Jake Edwards, I think he's a decent bloke. The end. Hypotheticals? What was hypothetical about my post? I was asking a question about the decision making process and who makes what calls. Additionally I didn't make any comments to suggest that Edwards was either a bad bloke or not doing a decent job. It is absolutely fine if you don't know how things work but let's not change the context of my post, which for the avoidance of doubt, was a question (about how things work). I think the hypothetical bit will have been putting forward a scenario that hasn’t actually happened. Not that there is anything wrong with that it’s just it’s hypothetical in that it’s not a fact. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 6, 2024 11:35:28 GMT 1
Hypotheticals? What was hypothetical about my post? I was asking a question about the decision making process and who makes what calls. Additionally I didn't make any comments to suggest that Edwards was either a bad bloke or not doing a decent job. It is absolutely fine if you don't know how things work but let's not change the context of my post, which for the avoidance of doubt, was a question (about how things work). I think the hypothetical bit will have been putting forward a scenario that hasn’t actually happened. Not that there is anything wrong with that it’s just it’s hypothetical in that it’s not a fact. I get that, I could have used an example such as we are leading League One in January and MD would like to sign a player that breaks the current wage structure but would strengthen the promotion campaign. My question, to move the debate forward, was; who in the hierarchy ultimately makes the calls on such things? I don't have a problem with Edwards and I can see the impact he appears to be having across the club. My point, and not to labour it, is to what extent does he have in authorising spend (as you might expect as CEO) on the footballing side? Or is that managed separately by Cartwright and through to Mr Nagle? As we enter the season questions will be asked about what we see on the pitch, potentially both good ("if we get one more we will get promoted) and bad ("recruitment has not been good enough"). Whatever anyone's opinion on individuals and actions to date what we see on the pitch governs our perception of the club. In both the cases of positive and negative outcomes fans will look for people to be ultimately accountable. My question, for clarity (and using an example to explain it), was where does the buck stop? It is entirely possible that the interview may make that clear so I'll see what is said. |
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Post by dezzly on Aug 6, 2024 11:42:11 GMT 1
I think the hypothetical bit will have been putting forward a scenario that hasn’t actually happened. Not that there is anything wrong with that it’s just it’s hypothetical in that it’s not a fact. I get that, I could have used an example such as we are leading League One in January and MD would like to sign a player that breaks the current wage structure but would strengthen the promotion campaign. My question, to move the debate forward, was; who in the hierarchy ultimately makes the calls on such things? I don't have a problem with Edwards and I can see the impact he appears to be having across the club. My point, and not to labour it, is to what extent does he have in authorising spend (as you might expect as CEO) on the footballing side? Or is that managed separately by Cartwright and through to Mr Nagle? As we enter the season questions will be asked about what we see on the pitch, potentially both good ("if we get one more we will get promoted) and bad ("recruitment has not been good enough"). Whatever anyone's opinion on individuals and actions to date what we see on the pitch governs our perception of the club. In both the cases of positive and negative outcomes fans will look for people to be ultimately accountable. My question, for clarity (and using an example to explain it), was where does the buck stop? It is entirely possible that the interview may make that clear so I'll see what is said. That’s fair comment.We may find out yes. I’d imagine a budget is set between the two and then up to Kevin to approve this.They may also set contingency budgets etc etc. Bit of luck we find out. |
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Post by SacTown on Aug 6, 2024 12:39:33 GMT 1
I think the hypothetical bit will have been putting forward a scenario that hasn’t actually happened. Not that there is anything wrong with that it’s just it’s hypothetical in that it’s not a fact. I get that, I could have used an example such as we are leading League One in January and MD would like to sign a player that breaks the current wage structure but would strengthen the promotion campaign. My question, to move the debate forward, was; who in the hierarchy ultimately makes the calls on such things? I don't have a problem with Edwards and I can see the impact he appears to be having across the club. My point, and not to labour it, is to what extent does he have in authorising spend (as you might expect as CEO) on the footballing side? Or is that managed separately by Cartwright and through to Mr Nagle? As we enter the season questions will be asked about what we see on the pitch, potentially both good ("if we get one more we will get promoted) and bad ("recruitment has not been good enough"). Whatever anyone's opinion on individuals and actions to date what we see on the pitch governs our perception of the club. In both the cases of positive and negative outcomes fans will look for people to be ultimately accountable. My question, for clarity (and using an example to explain it), was where does the buck stop? It is entirely possible that the interview may make that clear so I'll see what is said. Edwards reports into Nagle through his CFO - Michael "Wotsisname". As does our CFO Ian, "ex Villa". |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 6, 2024 12:42:58 GMT 1
I get that, I could have used an example such as we are leading League One in January and MD would like to sign a player that breaks the current wage structure but would strengthen the promotion campaign. My question, to move the debate forward, was; who in the hierarchy ultimately makes the calls on such things? I don't have a problem with Edwards and I can see the impact he appears to be having across the club. My point, and not to labour it, is to what extent does he have in authorising spend (as you might expect as CEO) on the footballing side? Or is that managed separately by Cartwright and through to Mr Nagle? As we enter the season questions will be asked about what we see on the pitch, potentially both good ("if we get one more we will get promoted) and bad ("recruitment has not been good enough"). Whatever anyone's opinion on individuals and actions to date what we see on the pitch governs our perception of the club. In both the cases of positive and negative outcomes fans will look for people to be ultimately accountable. My question, for clarity (and using an example to explain it), was where does the buck stop? It is entirely possible that the interview may make that clear so I'll see what is said. Edwards reports into Nagle through his CFO - Michael "Wotsisname". As does our CFO Ian, "ex Villa". Cheers - who does Cartwright report to? Does Duff report into MC or JE? |
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Post by SacTown on Aug 6, 2024 13:03:33 GMT 1
Edwards reports into Nagle through his CFO - Michael "Wotsisname". As does our CFO Ian, "ex Villa". Cheers - who does Cartwright report to? Does Duff report into MC or JE? JE > MC > MD |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 6, 2024 13:14:35 GMT 1
Cheers - who does Cartwright report to? Does Duff report into MC or JE? JE > MC > MD Thanks - that makes things clear and provides good context for the interview later today. |
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Post by incognito on Aug 6, 2024 13:40:07 GMT 1
I get that, I could have used an example such as we are leading League One in January and MD would like to sign a player that breaks the current wage structure but would strengthen the promotion campaign. My question, to move the debate forward, was; who in the hierarchy ultimately makes the calls on such things? I don't have a problem with Edwards and I can see the impact he appears to be having across the club. My point, and not to labour it, is to what extent does he have in authorising spend (as you might expect as CEO) on the footballing side? Or is that managed separately by Cartwright and through to Mr Nagle? As we enter the season questions will be asked about what we see on the pitch, potentially both good ("if we get one more we will get promoted) and bad ("recruitment has not been good enough"). Whatever anyone's opinion on individuals and actions to date what we see on the pitch governs our perception of the club. In both the cases of positive and negative outcomes fans will look for people to be ultimately accountable. My question, for clarity (and using an example to explain it), was where does the buck stop? It is entirely possible that the interview may make that clear so I'll see what is said. Edwards reports into Nagle through his CFO - Michael "Wotsisname". As does our CFO Ian, "ex Villa". That's quite interesting. Presumably DTS and the new CRO report to Edwards? |
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Post by SacTown on Aug 6, 2024 13:42:19 GMT 1
Thanks - that makes things clear and provides good context for the interview later today. The on the other side you've got the COO, CRO and the other Yank that nobody knows what he does reporting into Edwards. |
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 6, 2024 15:48:01 GMT 1
For what it's worth (probably not a lot), I like Jake Edwards. Me and another lad had a 10-minute conversation with him at an event last year and he was engaging, he listened, was knowledgeable and didn't need to spend 10 minutes talking to two random Town fans. Edwards is the CEO, he's not involved in football matters (that's why we have a Head of Football Operations), he's there to run the club and make sure everything is running day-to-day. The club is constantly being praised at the moment for all the progress off the pitch. Who do you think is overseeing all that? Nagle might be shelling the money out but he's not there day-to-day to oversee everything - it's Edwards. Some people on here, and other social media, genuinely don't even know the difference between Cartwright and Edwards and bizarrely just lump Edwards in with the same criticism. As CEO, I would expect that Edwards appointed Cartwright. |
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Post by always a terrier on Aug 6, 2024 17:19:19 GMT 1
Stuck at work till 7pm tonight. Could anyone please post the link once it begins be much appreciated 👍
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Post by terrier10 on Aug 6, 2024 17:30:30 GMT 1
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Post by royrace on Aug 6, 2024 17:37:18 GMT 1
Get ready for corporate bullshit buzzword bingo smarmathon.
Hopefully no more that will go down in history like "from a position of strength".
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 6, 2024 18:34:59 GMT 1
Has anybody got a link to the actual interview with Edwards? All we've heard on radio l***s so far is a load of Ogden waffle.
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Post by Dan on Aug 6, 2024 18:54:08 GMT 1
Has anybody got a link to the actual interview with Edwards? All we've heard on radio l***s so far is a load of Ogden waffle. They tweeted earlier on today to 'join us at 6pm to hear the full and exclusive interview' What a load of bollocks that was. Link coming out at 7pm by looks of it Edit: Here it is: www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0jgmg8y |
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Post by Justasmithers on Aug 6, 2024 18:56:51 GMT 1
Thanks - that makes things clear and provides good context for the interview later today. The on the other side you've got the COO, CRO and the other Yank that nobody knows what he does reporting into Edwards. I report to you guys |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 6, 2024 18:59:19 GMT 1
Fame at last. Just got a mention by on radio l***s after posting this tweet
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Post by Dan on Aug 6, 2024 19:02:41 GMT 1
Fame at last. Just got a mention by on radio l***s after posting this tweet Hahaha I did laugh when that got read out. Only said what everyone was thinking |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 6, 2024 19:17:20 GMT 1
The on the other side you've got the COO, CRO and the other Yank that nobody knows what he does reporting into Edwards. I report to you guys I pity you… |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 6, 2024 20:12:09 GMT 1
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 6, 2024 20:51:24 GMT 1
Decent, open interview. Glad he feels work is still needed in the transfer window to give us balance and depth to the squad. Hopefully Cartwright and Co can get these deals over the line ASAP.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 6, 2024 21:01:50 GMT 1
I don't do hypotheticals, What if there were no hypothetical questions? |
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Post by sallycinnamon on Aug 6, 2024 21:06:18 GMT 1
On a side note, when is Ogden competing in the National Gurning Championships? Got to applaud the commitment to training for it mid-interview.
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Post by four4two on Aug 6, 2024 21:32:20 GMT 1
For what it's worth (probably not a lot), I like Jake Edwards. Me and another lad had a 10-minute conversation with him at an event last year and he was engaging, he listened, was knowledgeable and didn't need to spend 10 minutes talking to two random Town fans. Edwards is the CEO, he's not involved in football matters (that's why we have a Head of Football Operations), he's there to run the club and make sure everything is running day-to-day. The club is constantly being praised at the moment for all the progress off the pitch. Who do you think is overseeing all that? Nagle might be shelling the money out but he's not there day-to-day to oversee everything - it's Edwards. Some people on here, and other social media, genuinely don't even know the difference between Cartwright and Edwards and bizarrely just lump Edwards in with the same criticism. Spot on. |
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Post by ldotm on Aug 6, 2024 21:52:37 GMT 1
On a side note, when is Ogden competing in the National Gurning Championships? Got to applaud the commitment to training for it mid-interview. Flake Edwards? |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 6, 2024 21:55:00 GMT 1
I don't do hypotheticals, What if there were no hypothetical questions? I don't do hypotheticals. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 6, 2024 21:55:58 GMT 1
For what it's worth (probably not a lot), I like Jake Edwards. Me and another lad had a 10-minute conversation with him at an event last year and he was engaging, he listened, was knowledgeable and didn't need to spend 10 minutes talking to two random Town fans. Edwards is the CEO, he's not involved in football matters (that's why we have a Head of Football Operations), he's there to run the club and make sure everything is running day-to-day. The club is constantly being praised at the moment for all the progress off the pitch. Who do you think is overseeing all that? Nagle might be shelling the money out but he's not there day-to-day to oversee everything - it's Edwards. Some people on here, and other social media, genuinely don't even know the difference between Cartwright and Edwards and bizarrely just lump Edwards in with the same criticism. Spot on. Are there anything other than 'random Town fans'😉 |
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