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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 31, 2024 16:02:36 GMT 1
Why does being sent off preclude Duff from doing the post match interview? Is that the case or is it an easy cop out? I wanted to hear his views after that shambles of a performance. Not that anyone asks the difficult questions anyway, no-one is going to ask him why he continues to pick Hogg. They would rather go on about him being the general and a leader, which is embarrassing? I want them to ask what they are going to do about the refereeing performances, cus you get premier league teams get a meeting after 1 decision goes against them. If you add up stuff like penalties awarded/conceded over a 3 year period and red cards for/against it would be blatantly obvious that there is something going on. I don’t trust for 1 minute we are getting fair treatment. Why is our injury record continually atrocious from start to finish? These last few years I can’t recall seeing anything like it. It can’t be down to luck when it keeps happening. 4 league games in and we are down to bare bones. Are we taking risks on injury prone players? Are we over/under training? It’s a joke. Why havnt we signed a striker who can get goals at this level? All summer we have had and we are now relying on Marshall to lead the line, which is unfair on him for starters. Who carries the can for failing so miserably? We are just doing enough again and by January the top 2 will be well ahead. 1 good performance against Peterborough and 1/2 game against Stevenage out of 4 league games isn’t going to get you top 2. Duff wasn't sent off. GK coach was. |
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Post by savilerowtownfan on Aug 31, 2024 16:03:54 GMT 1
Duff really needs to get stuck into Evans and Wiles. They are both key to Duff’s pressing and quick pass and move game. Our midfield has deteriorated significantly since Peterborough. We have quickly become static and one dimensional with nobody creating the angles to facilitate the forward pass that splits defences. Disappointing. Hope we are not reverting to a more direct style as holding the ball up is not one of our strengths !
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Post by uptownfunk on Aug 31, 2024 16:03:58 GMT 1
Town were very naive today. It’s league one away at steve Evans’ Rotherham. You’ve gotta be a lot smarter than we were. Ward it looked ugly and their guy played on it, Sorensen you cannot have any contact in the box because they’re going to be given against you.
Koroma played well and rightly perplexed and vexed at being taken off.
Deserved a point imo.. & it’d all be square at the top. As it is that’s a point dropped.
The whole squad will be needed this season. You just have to keep going onto the next match. If there’s an opportunity to bolster we need to take it.
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Post by potlessphil on Aug 31, 2024 16:05:04 GMT 1
Well well well, after deleting my account after last seasons continued disasterclass on how to run a football I gave Nagle and his cronies the benefit of the doubt to turn it around in this low quality division. How wrong I was. Where to start with this dissection...
Today's "Performance"-
Dreadful (again). I still don't think we've played well all season against largely weak opposition. Even at Peterborough if their strikers could finish their dinner we would've left with nothing.
Never a penalty (again). It's getting to a point where the club need to sit down with the EFL with a portfolio of penalties not given since Jan 2021 - then the number of penalties given against us in that period. Time and time again we are absolutely done by some appalling decisions which from the outside surely must look more than a coincidence. It's not even funny anymore.
The Red card - Ward is stupid enough to make the challenge and give the ref a decision to make.
Duffs Substitutions lost us that game just as much as the ref; ridiculous to bring off our best "Striker" and best performing defenders - bringing on 2 poor, crocked defenders an inviting pressure. It was inevitable that this would increase the pressure on our goal. Poor.
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The Striker situation.
For this club to have Koroma and an unproven 19 year old leading the line in 2024, in a division we're supposed to be a big fish is an absolute DISGRACE and yet another FAILURE by Nagle and his cronies.
Healey getting crocked again isn't luck - it's because we bought (Another) crock.
Who scouted Bojan? Shocking signing.
Evans - Absolutely appalling all season except for half a game against peterborough. Seems to get worse every game.
Hogg - How he is in our starting 11 in 2024 on big wages is RIDICOLOUS. He is AWFUL and has been for years. A losing playing in all but 2 of his Huddersfield campaigns. Getting worse and worse 3 years in a row. Losing mentality. Can't pass, can't shoot, can't run, walking yellow card. Would NEVER get a championship contract this summer. would NEVER get close to what he's earning here with any other League 1 club. Dreadful player and holding the club back. More excited by a Kane cameo than anything seen from hogg in 3 years.
I said a year ago we should be in for Louie Barry. Lit up League 2 last season and banged in 3 worldies for Stockport in League 1 already.
Why weren't we in for Ollie Norwood? The exact type of player we are missing and could've afforded had we not wasted 10-12k a week on hogg.
How did the club think Crock Healy, Crock Bojan, Useless 3 goal a season Ward, winger Koroma and a kid would fire us to promotion? Who made that call? Utter JOKE
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Our 2011 League 1 playoff winning side.
GK -
Smithies - Championship quality / Championship career
Defence -
Liam Cooper - Championship quality / Championship career
Jack Hunt - Championship quality / Championship career
Naysmith - Championship quality / Championship career
Woods - Championship quality / Championship career
P. Clarke
McCombe
Midfield -
Scott Arfield - Championship quality / Championship career
Tommy Miller - Championship quality / Championship career
Damien Johnson - Championship quality / Championship career
Joey Gudjonsson - Championship quality / Championship career
Gary Roberts
Kay
Gobern
Strikers -
Jordan Rhodes - Championship quality / Championship career
Alan Lee - Championship quality / Championship career
Novak
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I said it then and I'll say it again now; Nagle's ego and sacking warnock 7 games into the season will go down as pivotal in this clubs history as Hoyle not backing Carlos and Rubery selling Stewart. A truely unbelievable decision at the time and many, many more poor decisions followed. How ANYONE has ANY faith in this regime I have no idea.
Failed with multiple managerial appointments so far
Failed to bring in the required quality in ALL departments of the playing squad.
I don't want a painted stadium and fancy dressing rooms, who cares? Give me Bournemouth or Lutons 11,000 seater stadiums and an ownership that invest in the playing staff correctly. It's not as if we don't bring in good fees, we have sold OVER 100 MILLION POUNDS of players since relegation from the EPL.. and still don't have a NATURAL striker that can stay fit for 35 games a season. Circus of a club.
Nobody expects 15m on one striker, but we do expect A striker based on the current broken toy box of options.
Alfie May - 4 in 4. Should've had that one wrapped up weeks before Brum had a sniff.
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Post by rockwall on Aug 31, 2024 16:05:33 GMT 1
Why does being sent off preclude Duff from doing the post match interview? Is that the case or is it an easy cop out? I wanted to hear his views after that shambles of a performance. Not that anyone asks the difficult questions anyway, no-one is going to ask him why he continues to pick Hogg. They would rather go on about him being the general and a leader, which is embarrassing? I want them to ask what they are going to do about the refereeing performances, cus you get premier league teams get a meeting after 1 decision goes against them. If you add up stuff like penalties awarded/conceded over a 3 year period and red cards for/against it would be blatantly obvious that there is something going on. I don’t trust for 1 minute we are getting fair treatment. Why is our injury record continually atrocious from start to finish? These last few years I can’t recall seeing anything like it. It can’t be down to luck when it keeps happening. 4 league games in and we are down to bare bones. Are we taking risks on injury prone players? Are we over/under training? It’s a joke. Why havnt we signed a striker who can get goals at this level? All summer we have had and we are now relying on Marshall to lead the line, which is unfair on him for starters. Who carries the can for failing so miserably? We are just doing enough again and by January the top 2 will be well ahead. 1 good performance against Peterborough and 1/2 game against Stevenage out of 4 league games isn’t going to get you top 2. Duff wasn't sent off. GK coach was. Didn't Duff get sent off after the final whistle? That's why Paterson did the presser. |
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Post by ldr on Aug 31, 2024 16:07:31 GMT 1
Wards “contribution” reaked of betting fraud. Why did duff bring him on and not healey ffs? OK… I’ve posted replies to this question twice. Time for somebody else to have a go. I had nice little double on Healey getting injured pre game and Ward getting sent off. Duff put it out on the WhatsApp chat he has with established, discerning and handsome DATM posters. |
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Post by gbow on Aug 31, 2024 16:07:32 GMT 1
Why does being sent off preclude Duff from doing the post match interview? Is that the case or is it an easy cop out? I wanted to hear his views after that shambles of a performance. Not that anyone asks the difficult questions anyway, no-one is going to ask him why he continues to pick Hogg. They would rather go on about him being the general and a leader, which is embarrassing? I want them to ask what they are going to do about the refereeing performances, cus you get premier league teams get a meeting after 1 decision goes against them. If you add up stuff like penalties awarded/conceded over a 3 year period and red cards for/against it would be blatantly obvious that there is something going on. I don’t trust for 1 minute we are getting fair treatment. Why is our injury record continually atrocious from start to finish? These last few years I can’t recall seeing anything like it. It can’t be down to luck when it keeps happening. 4 league games in and we are down to bare bones. Are we taking risks on injury prone players? Are we over/under training? It’s a joke. Why havnt we signed a striker who can get goals at this level? All summer we have had and we are now relying on Marshall to lead the line, which is unfair on him for starters. Who carries the can for failing so miserably? We are just doing enough again and by January the top 2 will be well ahead. 1 good performance against Peterborough and 1/2 game against Stevenage out of 4 league games isn’t going to get you top 2. Duff wasn't sent off. GK coach was. Duff was sent off as well as the GK coach. I must have missed the rule change that states he has to take a vow of silence after the match. I still think some witch has put a hex on Town |
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Post by tepidterrier on Aug 31, 2024 16:09:10 GMT 1
Duff really needs to get stuck into Evans and Wiles. They are both key to Duff’s pressing and quick pass and move game. Our midfield has deteriorated significantly since Peterborough. We have quickly become static and one dimensional with nobody creating the angles for the forward pass. Disappointing . Evans looked very tidy at Peterborough, but he's got progressively worse since then, and showed a bit of a petulant streak today. Wiles is just the same player but with half a yard extra space due to the quality of opposition in League 1. So he'll still score a few goals but he'll continue to shirk his responsibilities and hide when the going gets tough like he did last season. Really don't like him as a player, but Duff seems to rate him. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 31, 2024 16:10:45 GMT 1
Decent interview this.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 31, 2024 16:14:40 GMT 1
What surprises me is that everyone is surprised that we've gone there and lost and put in another crap performance, the writing was on the wall.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 31, 2024 16:19:05 GMT 1
Duff wasn't sent off. GK coach was. Didn't Duff get sent off after the final whistle? That's why Paterson did the presser. Oh, perhaps. I switched off straight after the whistle so don't know about that. Apologies if that's the case. |
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 31, 2024 16:19:58 GMT 1
Didn't Duff get sent off after the final whistle? That's why Paterson did the presser. Oh, perhaps. I switched off straight after the whistle so don't know about that. Apologies if that's the case. Yeah, the club confirmed via a tweet too. A very bad day at the office. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 31, 2024 16:21:12 GMT 1
What surprises me is that everyone is surprised that we've gone there and lost and put in another crap performance, the writing was on the wall. But DonnyTerrier assured us every team in this division were shit and would keep missing chances so it didn't matter how poor we play we'll still go up. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 31, 2024 16:27:52 GMT 1
There are plenty of better teams than Rotherham. The fact we were struggling towards a 0-0 is not a good indication as to our top 2 hopes. It’s one game, let’s not shit our pants just yet It might be one game, but for the past couple of seasons one game became two, became three. That’s been the problem with our mentality, we think average is fine, we think finishing in the playoff spots is successful. It’s anything but, it mediocrity. We didn’t sign a headline striker, yeah let’s try ban the people who call out consistent mediocrity, let’s say it’ll be all ok when we just don’t have a proper frontline striker. It’s weak as piss, get some fight into you. Start demanding better, stop being an also ran. All I ever hear is excuses, the ref was poor etc, we had 70 minutes to put that game away, we had 70 minutes to beat second from bottom. We lost. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 31, 2024 16:29:18 GMT 1
With regard to Ward - somebody told me that he'd got his annual September holidays booked but then an extra week at the end of August came up. Can't blame him for seizing the chance.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 31, 2024 16:29:48 GMT 1
It’s one game, let’s not shit our pants just yet It might be one game, but for the past couple of seasons one game became two, became three. That’s been the problem with our mentality, we think average is fine, we think finishing in the playoff spots is successful. It’s anything but, it mediocrity. We didn’t sign a headline striker, yeah let’s try ban the people who call out consistent mediocrity, let’s say it’ll be all ok when we just don’t have a proper frontline striker. It’s weak as piss, get some fight into you. Start demanding better, stop being an also ran. All I ever hear is excuses, the ref was poor etc, we had 70 minutes to put that game away, we had 70 minutes to beat second from bottom. We lost. |
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Post by Larry David on Aug 31, 2024 16:30:29 GMT 1
I thought Evans and Wiles were utter gash today...
Both not physical
Not showing for the ball
Hiding from play
Not making simple passes.
So basically Scott High x 2
Hogg wasn't brilliant today but was light years ahead of those two jokers.
If we are serious about getting out of this division you need to win the midfield battles.
Plus the striker situation. Koroma was decent today and I like the kid from west ham but in league 1 they will get bullied each week. Don't get me started on Ward. A total liability.
Scandalous not to sort this striker situation out.
I can't see owt but a mid table finish.
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Post by utttrooper on Aug 31, 2024 16:30:30 GMT 1
We should try appeal Ward's red card but if we can't I'd hope Tuesday counts as a game he'll have to miss
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Post by Detective Boyle on Aug 31, 2024 16:32:09 GMT 1
What surprises me is that everyone is surprised that we've gone there and lost and put in another crap performance, the writing was on the wall. But DonnyTerrier assured us every team in this division were shit and would keep missing chances so it didn't matter how poor we play we'll still go up. A popular opinion also was that Pearson would be a colossus in this division. Town fans know nowt. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 31, 2024 16:34:47 GMT 1
It’s one game, let’s not shit our pants just yet It might be one game, but for the past couple of seasons one game became two, became three. That’s been the problem with our mentality, we think average is fine, we think finishing in the playoff spots is successful. It’s anything but, it mediocrity. We didn’t sign a headline striker, yeah let’s try ban the people who call out consistent mediocrity, let’s say it’ll be all ok when we just don’t have a proper frontline striker. It’s weak as piss, get some fight into you. Start demanding better, stop being an also ran. All I ever hear is excuses, the ref was poor etc, we had 70 minutes to put that game away, we had 70 minutes to beat second from bottom. We lost. It’s just town fans becoming downtrodden by it now. We are sick of it, bored of it, pissed off - whatever you want to call it. We’ve been able to see it coming but the people who are apparently in charge can’t. They thought we only needed 7 new players - put this into perspective that last season we had 4 managers. The turnover of managers is barely less than players. For years we’ve spent frugally and been promised it was some kind of plan - yet we never get enough for the players we’ve ‘improved’ look at O’Brien for example, didn’t get enough. We were promised reinvestment, only thing that’s been reinvested in is Danny Wards new kitchen or Hogg’s new fishing tackle. It’s a cycle that they won’t get out of because it actually requires money and ambition as well as risk. |
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Post by wildhogg on Aug 31, 2024 16:35:15 GMT 1
Dreadful referee, dreadful performance. Can see how Duff wants to play, but we are still lacking a fluid link between defence and attack; meaning that the likes of Evans, Wiles and the wing-backs very rarely have any quality ball to work with. Hogg is a massive, massive issue. Never plays forward when he picks the ball up from the centre-backs, often loses it, and as slow as a snail. Crossing my fingers that Hodge has been brought in as his replacement. I don't actually think our striking options are that bad. They're just isolated from play most of the time because possession usually breaks down way in front of them
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 31, 2024 16:40:49 GMT 1
It might be one game, but for the past couple of seasons one game became two, became three. That’s been the problem with our mentality, we think average is fine, we think finishing in the playoff spots is successful. It’s anything but, it mediocrity. We didn’t sign a headline striker, yeah let’s try ban the people who call out consistent mediocrity, let’s say it’ll be all ok when we just don’t have a proper frontline striker. It’s weak as piss, get some fight into you. Start demanding better, stop being an also ran. All I ever hear is excuses, the ref was poor etc, we had 70 minutes to put that game away, we had 70 minutes to beat second from bottom. We lost. It’s just town fans becoming downtrodden by it now. We are sick of it, bored of it, pissed off - whatever you want to call it. We’ve been able to see it coming but the people who are apparently in charge can’t. They thought we only needed 7 new players - put this into perspective that last season we had 4 managers. The turnover of managers is barely less than players. For years we’ve spent frugally and been promised it was some kind of plan - yet we never get enough for the players we’ve ‘improved’ look at O’Brien for example, didn’t get enough. We were promised reinvestment, only thing that’s been reinvested in is Danny Wards new kitchen or Hogg’s new fishing tackle. It’s a cycle that they won’t get out of because it actually requires money and ambition as well as risk. Fuck being downtrodden, you’ve got to fight. Giving up isn’t living. Cartwright should be sacked, he’s failed to bring in a striker. If people think dropping points to Rotherham is ok, then we aren’t going back up. |
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 31, 2024 16:45:19 GMT 1
There are plenty of better teams than Rotherham. The fact we were struggling towards a 0-0 is not a good indication as to our top 2 hopes. It’s one game, let’s not shit our pants just yet One game I agree but the decline in performances since Peterborough is starting to be a matter of concern. |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Aug 31, 2024 16:51:56 GMT 1
It’s just town fans becoming downtrodden by it now. We are sick of it, bored of it, pissed off - whatever you want to call it. We’ve been able to see it coming but the people who are apparently in charge can’t. They thought we only needed 7 new players - put this into perspective that last season we had 4 managers. The turnover of managers is barely less than players. For years we’ve spent frugally and been promised it was some kind of plan - yet we never get enough for the players we’ve ‘improved’ look at O’Brien for example, didn’t get enough. We were promised reinvestment, only thing that’s been reinvested in is Danny Wards new kitchen or Hogg’s new fishing tackle. It’s a cycle that they won’t get out of because it actually requires money and ambition as well as risk. Fuck being downtrodden, you’ve got to fight. Giving up isn’t living. Cartwright should be sacked, he’s failed to bring in a striker. If people think dropping points to Rotherham is ok, then we aren’t going back up. I’m not disagreeing, just saying it’s been tough to watch town run into obvious trouble for the last few years when we can’t really do anything about it. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Aug 31, 2024 16:54:18 GMT 1
It’s been an ok start but we have been naive today and the fact we haven’t played well rode our luck on the previous games just means that there’s a lot more work to be done to be contenders but it’s not all doom and gloom we are in a decent position after a few games in a shity league
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Post by willo on Aug 31, 2024 16:54:40 GMT 1
Chickens have come home to roost now. We've finally played a decent team. We might have won three but we were fucking shite. Absolutely fuck all chance of promotion. Too right. We could be in this pub league for many years. Shit football, far too many pathetic players who should have been shipped out after last year's disgrace, clowns running the club all talk and little substance, Zero entertainment. Pretty glad I didn't buy a season ticket because it's just a waste of time supporting the club as it has been for most of the last 5 years. Obviously I still care but glad I don't have to suffer it first hand. Expect we'll tumble down the league now. We didn’t renew for several reasons. A flash of guilt went through me beforehand, shouldn’t we be renewing to show some support to the club but we’d done this for the last 5 seasons and got very little back. On the eve of the first game, I again wondered if we’d done the right thing; how would it be not attending games for the first time in 12 years every other week, what would we do with our time? Need not have worried, had plenty to do and watched enough of us via streams to see things haven’t changed much from last season, or the one before, or the one before. I still care too but I’m not as invested as I have been. We continue to make stupid mistakes and there is little by way of entertainment on show. We only sold circa 14k season cards because they remained at £250 and at that price, folk can afford to miss several games a season. Things continue along the same lines and it will be nearer 10k next season irrespective of cost. Club needs to buck its ideas up and quickly. |
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Post by willo on Aug 31, 2024 16:56:07 GMT 1
It’s been an ok start but we have been naive today and the fact we haven’t played well rode our luck on the previous games just means that there’s a lot more work to be done to be contenders but it’s not all doom and gloom we are in a decent position after a few games in a shity league Worryingly, we haven’t played a decent team yet. |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 31, 2024 16:56:38 GMT 1
Thats it then, season over.  |
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 31, 2024 16:59:53 GMT 1
Good interview from Pattinson. Fair assessment of how the game went. Let’s hope they do learn cos it’s going to be a long season again otherwise. It's Paterson not Pattinson (isn't he from Twilight?), why do people continually struggle so much with spelling our own players and staff names correctly? |
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Aug 31, 2024 17:03:10 GMT 1
This shows the stupidity of Nagles tweets yesterday. You are setting yourself up for a fall. It was always foolish to think what we had was good enough when they have failed for a few years and had injuries constantly. You can hope for the best but it’s naive to not see this situation coming. So next three games we have Koroma (not a striker but trying) and Marshall (young and trying) and that’s it, no option off the bench unless the youth team have someone we’ve not heard of.
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