htfcterry
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Post by htfcterry on Sept 21, 2024 17:28:07 GMT 1
Yeah let's blame the Ref. Fuck my life. He was definitely not worse. And there's the dullard. I've literally said it's not his fault. You also literally said he was worse. He wasn't. We were fucking wank.
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 17:28:12 GMT 1
Anyone still rate Headley then? Been poor for a while now, loan him out, don't want to see him in the first team again, another one that probably needs writing off. Looked completely devoid of confidence.
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Post by goodbet on Sept 21, 2024 17:28:27 GMT 1
He didn't. But he did tell them how to play. Only 1 team looked organised with a clear game plan and it sure as hell wasn't us Sorry, no manager can bear responsibility for his central defender passing it between the posts. No manager on earth says ‘that’s how to play’. Except maybe Ian Evatt. What is on him is being too slow to change systems. It should have been 4–3-3 from half-time, with Koroma and Marshall either side of Ladapo. He should also have started either Hodge or Kane - and I don’t think Hogg had as poor a game as made out. We saw his limitations in possession laid bare, and when he went off we saw us - finally - dominating the ball and looking like creating more chances. For me Sorensen looks like a player that shines in a team that can pass the ball and the team is progressive and moving forwards, unfortunately that is not Town at this moment.
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 21, 2024 17:28:44 GMT 1
Sorry, no manager can bear responsibility for his central defender passing it between the posts. No manager on earth says ‘that’s how to play’. Except maybe Ian Evatt. What is on him is being too slow to change systems. It should have been 4–3-3 from half-time, with Koroma and Marshall either side of Ladapo. He should also have started either Hodge or Kane - and I don’t think Hogg had as poor a game as made out. We saw his limitations in possession laid bare, and when he went off we saw us - finally - dominating the ball and looking like creating more chances. I'm not saying Helik's goal is on him. I'm putting a large chunk of the blame for the loss on his tactics, or total lack of. Sorry, crossed wires and a slight misunderstanding. Wrong team and system, I agree.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 21, 2024 17:29:07 GMT 1
Now that was terrible. too much deadwood in the team. Duff has no plan a never mind a plan b. Strikers don’t get anything. Defenders hold onto the ball too much. Nicholls will never be a good ball playing keeper. Finally, I have to say I told you so about Hogg. Sorry, the general
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 21, 2024 17:29:15 GMT 1
Hogg is shite and always has been. Some things are subject to opinion, and some things aren't. To say Hogg has 'always been shite' is factually incorrect, by any measure.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 21, 2024 17:30:55 GMT 1
Duff has said they ran harder than us as one of the main reasons for losing, and has also said it wasn't a lack of application. That makes sense. The most worrying thing was he said they played exactly as we expected them to and yet we had no game plan for it. Nothing to do with our total failure to make an accurate pass until Kane and Hodge came on then, Mr Duff?
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 21, 2024 17:31:09 GMT 1
Worrying that in the post match interview Duff said we have been good up until now. We haven’t. We’ve been poor in a few games now including those we’ve won, and patterns are emerging with our poor midfield and technical inability.
Marshall shouldn’t be starting as he offers literally nothing. Not his fault, wasn’t brought in as a starting striker. Hogg needs to be dropped now for good but we know he won’t be. Worrying performance yet again.
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Post by duncfost01 on Sept 21, 2024 17:34:42 GMT 1
Bojan looked really slow and devoid of any confidence. Jesus Cartwright has signed some rubbish.
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 17:34:48 GMT 1
Duff has said they ran harder than us as one of the main reasons for losing, and has also said it wasn't a lack of application. That makes sense. The most worrying thing was he said they played exactly as we expected them to and yet we had no game plan for it. Nonsense, we lost because we had no game plan and couldn't pass the football to each other. Plus individual poor performances but above all it's on the coaching imo. Why you'd watch that absolute dross for an entire half without changing a single thing is beyond me. I like duff but I find it concerning be doesn't seem to have a plan B let alone C or D. Seems if our wingbacks are crap, which seems like they will be, then we're stuffed really.
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Post by impact on Sept 21, 2024 17:35:10 GMT 1
And a special shout out to the ref for making the easiest game he could ever manage look impossible. Clueless with decisions, inconsistent all over, wastes) allows loads of time wasting, wastes loads of time himself and then doesn't bother adding it on. An arrogant wanker who thinks he's made it because he's had a few championship games. And before some dullard goes "the ref didn't cost us the game" - I know, we were shit, but he was just as bad if not worse. Couldn't disagree more, he let play flow and got all the major decisions spot on. He let Northampton take the piss all game,which I'm not knocking them for by the way. 3 simple corner decisions totally wrong, and the shambles at the penalty making us wait 3 mins to take it because he couldn't work out who had made the foul. He only let the game flow after the 3rd goal when he realised he had to stop giving the cheap fouls he had before. Refereeing 101 is to keep an eye on celebrations after a goal. He turned his back after the 3rd and walked away, which is why he let them goad our fans and delay the game by about 2 minutes. A simple thing to do, he failed. The simplest thing of all is timekeeping. Nigh on 3 mins for the penalty, 3 or was it 4 bookings for time wasting, 2 goals, 8 subs and he plays 6 mins and 9 seconds. We wouldn't have scored, but that just incompetence. You can get major decisions right and still be very poor. I'd be very interested to see his review sheet from today.
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Post by daltonterrier44 on Sept 21, 2024 17:35:17 GMT 1
Wonder how many more times Duff wants to try that midfield before it sinks in? Hodge came on and made a difference straight away just like he Did at Rotherham, a lot of that performance is on Duff today I’m afraid.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 21, 2024 17:35:31 GMT 1
Duff has said they ran harder than us as one of the main reasons for losing, and has also said it wasn't a lack of application. That makes sense. The most worrying thing was he said they played exactly as we expected them to and yet we had no game plan for it. Nothing to do with our total failure to make an accurate pass until Kane and Hodge came on then, Mr Duff? Absolutely. Talking out of his arse. Let them dominate the midfield and we didn’t have the quality/patience to put anything together. No excuses when you are losing to a side with a third of your budget
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 21, 2024 17:35:44 GMT 1
On holiday and checked the scores ? has happened today with these inconsistencies who knows if we can be contenders this season
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Post by impact on Sept 21, 2024 17:35:45 GMT 1
And there's the dullard. I've literally said it's not his fault. You also literally said he was worse. He wasn't. We were fucking wank. So I haven't blamed the ref. Well done!
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Post by gbow on Sept 21, 2024 17:37:13 GMT 1
How have we managed to recruit so many "footballers" who are unable to master the basic skills required to be a footballer ?!
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 21, 2024 17:38:09 GMT 1
Just back in Birstall. I set off at 530am to drive 220 miles to watch that utter shite. I need my head examining. You’d think after supporting Town for 59 years I’d know better. And I’ve got a ticket for the bloody Barnsley game. Idiot.
Sod it. I’m off out for a meal.
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Post by impact on Sept 21, 2024 17:38:16 GMT 1
Duff has said they ran harder than us as one of the main reasons for losing, and has also said it wasn't a lack of application. That makes sense. The most worrying thing was he said they played exactly as we expected them to and yet we had no game plan for it. Nothing to do with our total failure to make an accurate pass until Kane and Hodge came on then, Mr Duff? I thought Hodge did well, but it's pointless having both him and Hogg on occupying similar areas of the field. I don't see it with Kane (yet), it seems very Hollywood big passes that look good but don't accomplish a lot.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 21, 2024 17:39:19 GMT 1
Wonder how many more times Duff wants to try that midfield before it sinks in? Hodge came on and made a difference straight away just like he Did at Rotherham, a lot of that performance is on Duff today I’m afraid. Not just that... wrong tactics at the start. Try and beat their CBs with pace - didn't work. He changed it second half but it was too late. Oh Josh Koroma! Converting that penalty may have produced a different result. I'm hoping that the manager and the players will learn from this.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 21, 2024 17:42:15 GMT 1
Wonder how many more times Duff wants to try that midfield before it sinks in? Hodge came on and made a difference straight away just like he Did at Rotherham, a lot of that performance is on Duff today I’m afraid. Not just that... wrong tactics at the start. Try and beat their CBs with pace - didn't work. He changed it second half but it was too late. Oh Josh Koroma! Converting that penalty may have produced a different result. I'm hoping that the manager and the players will learn from this. Once again it’s shit lower league managers thinking that bang average centre backs can play like van dijk and rudiger. Not to mention Nicholls being Alisson in goal, more like Alison Hammond.
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 17:46:24 GMT 1
Nothing to do with our total failure to make an accurate pass until Kane and Hodge came on then, Mr Duff? I thought Hodge did well, but it's pointless having both him and Hogg on occupying similar areas of the field. I don't see it with Kane (yet), it seems very Hollywood big passes that look good but don't accomplish a lot. Hodge looked great but why the fk he was sat next to Hogg so deep is anyone's guess. It's one for the coach but I don't think it was anything to do with them running harder. More our coaching staff having an absolute stinker and being completely unable to read the game or counter the opposition. Worrying.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 21, 2024 17:47:58 GMT 1
Anyone still rate Headley then? Been poor for a while now, loan him out, don't want to see him in the first team again, another one that probably needs writing off. Looked completely devoid of confidence. You wont get confidence hiding and not wanting the ball!!! Utterly woeful .....again and tbf sorensen arguably worse on the day! I like duff - but dont understand his comments re no lack of application. Theyve just been outrun and outfought for me.Started without any tempo or urgency and paid the price....and thats on the manager.
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Post by stinkypete on Sept 21, 2024 17:48:17 GMT 1
Should’ve changed it as soon as second goal went in, must be in Town managers contracts that we aren’t allowed to change things until half time!
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Post by pterrier on Sept 21, 2024 17:48:40 GMT 1
The first half today was the worst 45 I’ve ever seen from a town team in my 36 years as a fan. Yes we’ve had some shockers under Wadsworth and some hammerings under others, but in the context of where we are as a club (financially stable, plethora of decent options for this level, no real injuries, a week to prepare, a team who should be full of confidence) that was unforgivably bad. Complacent attitudes, no tactics, no plan, no positivity, no communication, just nothing.
Hodge coming in saved it from being the worst 90 I’ve ever witnessed
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Post by Larry David on Sept 21, 2024 17:48:42 GMT 1
Hedley was pathetic. He did nothing right at all.
Hogg, time for the bench. Surely the tactic wasn't for him to be starting every game
Gap between the midfield and attack about as far as between a postcode district
Duff. Could have changed it on 20 when it was clear it wasn't working and we win that game.
So basically shocking all over the place
I personally think our position is false. No way this team of brittle players finish top half.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 21, 2024 17:49:00 GMT 1
Worrying that in the post match interview Duff said we have been good up until now. We haven’t. We’ve been poor in a few games now including those we’ve won, and patterns are emerging with our poor midfield and technical inability. Marshall shouldn’t be starting as he offers literally nothing. Not his fault, wasn’t brought in as a starting striker. Hogg needs to be dropped now for good but we know he won’t be. Worrying performance yet again. Think Duff needs to get his head around this is Huddersfield, not Barnsley. There isn’t going to be a lot of patience with him figuring it out when we should be trying to finish top 2.
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Post by rob411 on Sept 21, 2024 17:49:46 GMT 1
Every team in this League have gigantic,physically strong players. Except for us! I said at the time we shouldnt have signed Marshall.Too small and weak for League 1.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 21, 2024 17:50:22 GMT 1
How have we managed to recruit so many "footballers" who are unable to master the basic skills required to be a footballer ?! They need the ball and they need it to be played to them at the right time. I'm so amazed by how many people think this lot can't play, when it's having to resort to long balls. Hogg is in that vital position and can't do it. The modern DM isn't a bruiser or tough tackler, they are the playmaker who starts the play off. Duff has the team setup to play pressing and attacking football yet has Hogg in it. I genuinely don't understand what Hogg is still in the team for. I thought that Duff had clicked and that's why Hogg was subbed last week and also why he came out and said Hogg needed to accept not playing every week. I even thought that Duff probably thought that today was one of the games which he could afford to play Hogg... But then he didn't change it.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 21, 2024 17:50:56 GMT 1
I thought Hodge did well, but it's pointless having both him and Hogg on occupying similar areas of the field. I don't see it with Kane (yet), it seems very Hollywood big passes that look good but don't accomplish a lot. Hodge looked great but why the fk he was sat next to Hogg so deep is anyone's guess. It's one for the coach but I don't think it was anything to do with them running harder. More our coaching staff having an absolute stinker and being completely unable to read the game or counter the opposition. Worrying. To play the ball and receive it from deep.
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 17:51:15 GMT 1
Not just that... wrong tactics at the start. Try and beat their CBs with pace - didn't work. He changed it second half but it was too late. Oh Josh Koroma! Converting that penalty may have produced a different result. I'm hoping that the manager and the players will learn from this. Once again it’s shit lower league managers thinking that bang average centre backs can play like van dijk and rudiger. Not to mention Nicholls being Alisson in goal, more like Alison Hammond. Helik was stupid however longwidk should never have played that ball, I guess he did that because he had zero options in front of him and no movement, the same the entire match really. It's more fundamental than our defence doing silly things imo. I did find myself wondering today if the back three is any better than a Pearson, Helik and Lees combo. Imo it's worse. I'd play Pearson on the right and Lees on the left.
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