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Post by rougeboy31 on Sept 21, 2024 18:18:31 GMT 1
Once again it’s shit lower league managers thinking that bang average centre backs can play like van dijk and rudiger. Not to mention Nicholls being Alisson in goal, more like Alison Hammond. Let me think... who posted this last week? Because a lot of town fans , especially on here, are idiots. Everything is so black and white to them. If we win we are amazing, if we lose we are awful. If you once said in a whisper that you thought someone was shit , they will hold it against you for as long as it takes for them to play well.
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 18:18:49 GMT 1
On review the ref was actually OK. He was wank. Same ref as Peterborough away and he was wank that day too. Which decisions were wrong? He gave Town a penalty and booked several Northampton players for time wasting. It wasn't his fault we are totally gash and soft as shite. |
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Post by Amigo on Sept 21, 2024 18:20:02 GMT 1
No I don't. I genuinely thought he had something but today he just didn't look arsed, lethargic almost. Wouldn't take a man on like he used to and his passing was crap. It's almost as if we have stepped up a division instead of down one. its even harder to understand, that he is part of our "leadership groupd" what about this fella says "leader"? Honestly think one of our biggest problems is you could combine the traits of our entire squad and struggle to create an actual leader. As soon as something goes wrong we panic like fuck and fold. There's absolutely nobody going round calming players down, instead it's absolute panic stations and chaos. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 21, 2024 18:20:04 GMT 1
The only thing I can say after watching that performance today is, I hope the party they were all getting pissed at last night was a good one  |
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 21, 2024 18:21:14 GMT 1
Duff, picked them and gave them the game plan. Darren in disguise makes me laugh that people are blaming duff for that. helik own goal, missed penalty and a clear foul on the 3rd, that’s on the players. no one slagged him off last week when we won 4-0? I like Duff he speaks a lot of sense but it is slightly worrying that we’re only 6 games in and it’s pot luck which HTFC turns up week to week. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 21, 2024 18:22:23 GMT 1
Confidence. Headley’s biggest issue. If he does the first thing well he has a good game. The instant he makes a mistake his head goes and he withdraws into his shell. It’s consistent. He needs to see a sports psychologist to deal with it. Sorensen was the same today though. Every bit as poor. Thing is everything in the first half was going to Headley. Time and time again and he screwed it up every time. You're right though, you can see it in his body language, he gets worse and worse once he messes up. He doesn't want the ball. Yep. Then the manager is in a quandary. Hook him and knock his confidence further when he’s needed on Tuesday night. Or leave him on and run the risk of more damage to team and player. I’d rest him on Tuesday and look at a change of system. I doubt Duff will do so - although I’d not be surprised to see Ruffels starting after today. |
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Sept 21, 2024 18:22:46 GMT 1
Everyone having a go at the players and the manager today and rightly so. However, Cartwright needs to come into the equation. It’s looking like 3 shit transfer windows in a row now, alongside a list of failed management appointments. How long does he stay in a job?
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Post by Amigo on Sept 21, 2024 18:24:12 GMT 1
Didn’t want Hogg to start today but the folk blaming him for today’s debacle must have missed another couple of pathetic displays from Wiles and Evans. They’ve played well for 2 halves of football each this season between them. Wiles has been an awful signing in all honesty, doesn’t want to get involved unless Town are massively on top in a game, Evans very much the same. I'm not sure it's a case of ignoring them 2 but Hogg in the this system and style is a critical part of it and especially at home it really doesn't work with him there. He doesn't make himself available for the defence and if he does it's only if he knows he can give it straight back making it extremely difficult to start moves. He's also not preventing much either, players are walking past him. It needs to be someone that, yes can put a tackle in, but mainly make themselves available to start moves and be more mobile. |
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Post by bluewhitesapper on Sept 21, 2024 18:24:57 GMT 1
Just got back. Daughters first town games.
Thoughts on today, Helik started having a poor game even before the own goal with miss timed tackles and poor passing.
Midfield struggles to create anything, I watched Wiles for a good 5 minutes hiding behind the ref not showing for any passes, leaving the defence to pass sideways getting the crowd on the teams back.
Need to see the 3rd goal back, but my initial thoughts are it was weak and not a foul.
Koroma good, penalty awful. Also can't play him and Marshall together at home trying to break teams down (works well away when pressing high up)
At least she got a picture with Andy Booth. (She didn't have a clue who he is)
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 21, 2024 18:25:35 GMT 1
Garbage. Absolute garbage.
No in fact garbage is too good for this lot.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 21, 2024 18:26:51 GMT 1
Let me think... who posted this last week? Because a lot of town fans , especially on here, are idiots. Everything is so black and white to them. If we win we are amazing, if we lose we are awful. If you once said in a whisper that you thought someone was shit , they will hold it against you for as long as it takes for them to play well.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 21, 2024 18:27:24 GMT 1
One positive today the guy we got from wolves Nigel Lonvijk looks a class player. Head and shoulders better than any other town player. Heilk and Headley pathetic.
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Post by cyberman on Sept 21, 2024 18:27:48 GMT 1
Did we lose ? - just woken up
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 18:28:09 GMT 1
Thing is everything in the first half was going to Headley. Time and time again and he screwed it up every time. You're right though, you can see it in his body language, he gets worse and worse once he messes up. He doesn't want the ball. Yep. Then the manager is in a quandary. Hook him and knock his confidence further when he’s needed on Tuesday night. Or leave him on and run the risk of more damage to team and player. I’d rest him on Tuesday and look at a change of system. I doubt Duff will do so - although I’d not be surprised to see Ruffels starting after today. How long is Miller out? I said when he didn't come back for the second half at Bolton we wouldn't see him till Christmas. |
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Post by alex on Sept 21, 2024 18:28:15 GMT 1
Well done to the Cobblers. We thought we had won before the game was played, everyone in the stand could see after 20 mins it was not working. Shit effort, shit tactics and we were shithoused. To be fair the Ref was f**king shocking too.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 21, 2024 18:28:36 GMT 1
The Birmingham game worries me. I think we will get Fulham’d home and away, bummed in the gob style. A Brummie Bumming then ! 😉 |
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Post by htfcterry on Sept 21, 2024 18:29:28 GMT 1
He was wank. Same ref as Peterborough away and he was wank that day too. Which decisions were wrong? He gave Town a penalty and booked several Northampton players for time wasting. It wasn't his fault we are totally gash and soft as shite. I don't think there's a game changing decision that's wrong.. it's the soft fouls for me with him. Pboro knew how to get round him and at times Northampton did. Not an excuse for today tho |
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Sept 21, 2024 18:29:34 GMT 1
No complaints with the referee or the 3rd goal today. Sorensen just too weak. So easy to blame the ref again for our failings. Northampton were the better team by far and deserved their win.
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Post by Terriersmad on Sept 21, 2024 18:30:18 GMT 1
Yep. Then the manager is in a quandary. Hook him and knock his confidence further when he’s needed on Tuesday night. Or leave him on and run the risk of more damage to team and player. I’d rest him on Tuesday and look at a change of system. I doubt Duff will do so - although I’d not be surprised to see Ruffels starting after today. How long is Miller out? I said when he didn't come back for the second half at Bolton we wouldn't see him till Christmas. Just a precaution according to the press conference. Three days might be too soon. Waiting on a scan too, which isn’t urgent as it’s been caught before anything major happened. |
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Post by sabailand on Sept 21, 2024 18:31:07 GMT 1
Sorry, no manager can bear responsibility for his central defender passing it between the posts. No manager on earth says ‘that’s how to play’. Except maybe Ian Evatt. What is on him is being too slow to change systems. It should have been 4–3-3 from half-time, with Koroma and Marshall either side of Ladapo. He should also have started either Hodge or Kane - and I don’t think Hogg had as poor a game as made out. We saw his limitations in possession laid bare, and when he went off we saw us - finally - dominating the ball and looking like creating more chances. For me Sorensen looks like a player that shines in a team that can pass the ball and the team is progressive and moving forwards, unfortunately that is not Town at this moment. Our passing was terrible first half and not much better in the second, that was all round bad today, much improvement needed for tuesday, as daft as it sounds we could go one point off top spot. |
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Post by alex on Sept 21, 2024 18:31:31 GMT 1
Anyone still rate Headley then? his mum |
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 18:33:39 GMT 1
Helik was stupid however longwidk should never have played that ball, I guess he did that because he had zero options in front of him and no movement, the same the entire match really. It's more fundamental than our defence doing silly things imo. I did find myself wondering today if the back three is any better than a Pearson, Helik and Lees combo. Imo it's worse. I'd play Pearson on the right and Lees on the left. We missed an old fashioned row z defender today Pearson? |
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Post by 28901 on Sept 21, 2024 18:34:46 GMT 1
For me Sorensen looks like a player that shines in a team that can pass the ball and the team is progressive and moving forwards, unfortunately that is not Town at this moment. Our passing was terrible first half and not much better in the second, that was all round bad, much improvement needed for tuesday, as daft as it sounds we could go one point off top spot. Infuriating that you look at the 2 games and think what might be... It never is though. There was a reasonable crowd today too, forget what figure they make up, the Riverside looked much fuller than average. They won't be back Tuesday. |
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Post by H7 on Sept 21, 2024 18:36:40 GMT 1
No complaints today. That result has been brewing all season in the league. We’ve been lucky not to have been punished in most games up to this point and today was the day. I think that is the end of Hogg Evans Wiles for a while. Hodge definitely starts Tuesday and I wouldn’t be surprised if Kane and Iorpenda do as well. We need to sort this midfield out fast or promotion is off the table this season. On to Tuesday….
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 21, 2024 18:36:56 GMT 1
One positive today the guy we got from wolves Nigel Lonvijk looks a class player. Head and shoulders better than any other town player. Heilk and Headley pathetic. Can't pass a ball for shit unless it's to a player 4 yards away |
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Post by royrace on Sept 21, 2024 18:41:53 GMT 1
Everyone having a go at the players and the manager today and rightly so. However, Cartwright needs to come into the equation. It’s looking like 3 shit transfer windows in a row now, alongside a list of failed management appointments. How long does he stay in a job? Sooner he fucks off the better but it won't be this season sadly. You can trace all of this back to him. Even the fact we're playing fucking Northampton is on him and him only as far as I'm concerned. Big question marks around the latest window already and not just the striker debacle. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 21, 2024 18:42:53 GMT 1
Couldn't disagree more, he let play flow and got all the major decisions spot on. He let Northampton take the piss all game,which I'm not knocking them for by the way. 3 simple corner decisions totally wrong, and the shambles at the penalty making us wait 3 mins to take it because he couldn't work out who had made the foul. He only let the game flow after the 3rd goal when he realised he had to stop giving the cheap fouls he had before. Refereeing 101 is to keep an eye on celebrations after a goal. He turned his back after the 3rd and walked away, which is why he let them goad our fans and delay the game by about 2 minutes. A simple thing to do, he failed. The simplest thing of all is timekeeping. Nigh on 3 mins for the penalty, 3 or was it 4 bookings for time wasting, 2 goals, 8 subs and he plays 6 mins and 9 seconds. We wouldn't have scored, but that just incompetence. You can get major decisions right and still be very poor. I'd be very interested to see his review sheet from today. Have to agree to disagree on that one then, it wasn't perfect, but I thought all in all he did well with virtually no negative impact on the game, and is streets ahead of any other ref I've seen this season, although the bar isn't exactly high. |
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Post by htfcterry on Sept 21, 2024 18:45:23 GMT 1
Everyone having a go at the players and the manager today and rightly so. However, Cartwright needs to come into the equation. It’s looking like 3 shit transfer windows in a row now, alongside a list of failed management appointments. How long does he stay in a job? Sooner he fucks off the better but it won't be this season sadly. You can trace all of this back to him. Even the fact we're playing fucking Northampton is on him and him only as far as I'm concerned. Big question marks around the latest window already and not just the striker debacle. I'm not a fan of him whatsoever, but you can't lay any blame on him for today. Man for man we have the better team, we were just fucking shit. |
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 21, 2024 18:45:34 GMT 1
Catering seems to have gone downhill again aswell which is a shame. Bought some brisket potatoes today and it's literally half the size it used to be and costa more. 5 quid for the equivalent of half a spud and a pot of gravy.
Taste wise very good but portion size shocking.
I expect a better performance and better portion size Tuesday
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Post by bells ringing :) on Sept 21, 2024 18:45:48 GMT 1
Duff seems to be yet another town manager, who is registered blind it seems. The quote " i didn't see that comming" is a baffling one. We did a good job against Bolton , the other games weren't exactly great were they really? He needs to take his blackout shades off and see what is actually going on.
We have a squad capable, but the combonations he is picking is not great. Kane and Hodge for example have to start end of no questions asked. For me Lees is a bench at best and Helik is a shadow of the player he can be, therefore until he gets himself back to what we know, then Pearson comes in .
Duff has talked about standards at Burnley etc, you know how Dyche got theem there ? By if you play well you play, if you don't , you are on the bench simple as . We have players playing on reputation alone , not actual game by game preformance level .
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