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Post by harrythedog on Oct 3, 2024 13:41:37 GMT 1
Now then, I'm not usually a thread starter but the current situation, the good start getting us all excited and now the worst run in years, my Town supporting history etc has had me thinking about the common denominator in a successful "Town" season.
I first went down in 74/75 and regularly from about 77/78. Is this now the 51st season?
In that time we have had 13 "successful" seasons 1 in 4, this includes Auto promotion, play off finishes and one absolute near miss in 80/81. Honourable mentions can be made for 95/96 and 99/00.
The common factor seems to be a new manager/coach in his first role, Warnock, Bruce and Macari had managed elsewhere but were still early in their careers, the others, Buxton, Ross, Jackson, Clark, Wagner and Corberan were for all intents and purposes in their first role.
So, can we ever get any impetus from a Jobbing, merry go round manager. I know there's more to this than meets the eye and my facts can be corrected but my conclusion is no, we should always gamble on someone in their first "top" position.
The problem being as we have recently seen with Fotheringham and Schofield is that it is a massive gamble.
Like a band whose first album is the best, does a coach become a busted flush after his first role, with exceptions of course.
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Post by goodbet on Oct 3, 2024 16:02:30 GMT 1
With our managers they seem to get more and more defensive the longer they stay with us.
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 3, 2024 16:12:54 GMT 1
With our managers they seem to get more and more defensive the longer they stay with us. Only they’re not very good at being defensive though goodbet... On the field of play anyway (I’m presuming that’s the sphere and not press conferences so to speak)... Moore did pick up a significant number of draws with that philosophy, however under the three points of for a win scenario it was always a risky way to survive in The Championship and ultimately we eventually met our fate of doom from that very unforgiving environment... Mega game on Saturday now - It’ll be interesting to see just how he approaches it ! |
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Post by soapystevens on Oct 3, 2024 16:21:15 GMT 1
I started watching Town in the late 60's and the 70's were terrible years watching Town. It was a different game back then, these days it is too tactical for my liking but in the 70's the manager and only the manager would go and target a player and if they could go and get him. We had some big names for sure, Steve Kindon, Mel Eves, Peter Eastoe just to name a few and oh yes Terry Curran, what a player he was. Teams played to their strength's and not stupid sytems.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 3, 2024 16:26:49 GMT 1
The common denominator in our history is an almost comically cliched Yorkshire tight-fistedness. The only success stories are managers who massively over achieve before they’re known and then lured away, because we have always been extremely cautious with investment. The club  should probably feature Ebeneezer Scrooge rather than a Terrier. |
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Post by soapystevens on Oct 3, 2024 16:34:27 GMT 1
The common denominator in our history is an almost comically cliched Yorkshire tight-fistedness. The only success stories are managers who massively over achieve before they’re known and then lured away, because we have always been extremely cautious with investment. The club should probably feature Ebeneezer Scrooge rather than a Terrier. Exactly. Bill Shankly wanted two players and the board turned him down, when he left the first two players he bought at Liverpool were the same two he wanted at Town. Ron Yeats and Ian St John he built that great Liverpool side around them two. |
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 3, 2024 16:48:38 GMT 1
Ye but what did Bill Shankly and Neil Warnock ever do, oh hang on they WON stuff.
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Post by malcolmbrown on Oct 3, 2024 17:04:00 GMT 1
I could we wrong but were we last automatically promoted in 1983?
By the end of the season that will be 42 years ago. Is that a record?
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Post by katiemterrier27 on Oct 3, 2024 17:21:08 GMT 1
I could we wrong but were we last automatically promoted in 1983? By the end of the season that will be 42 years ago. Is that a record? I blame the fans, the bed wetters not the head up their arse ones with their pisspots. |
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should probably feature Ebeneezer Scrooge rather than a Terrier.