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Post by wigster on Nov 9, 2024 23:09:48 GMT 1
You look at the result and think it's an ok point. then I watch the match, consider Crawley bloody awful, and think it's a very very poor performance and result. Healey the only decent striker, and Koroma is a striker who genuinely cannot head a ball. It was a mistake to bring Koroma on. Clearly not up to the pace of the game. Mistimed his jump for both the headers and the 2nd one especially was a bad miss. If you remember Koroma had a bit of a laugh the other week when he scored the first headed goal of his career That said it all for me. |
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Post by htafcdreams on Nov 9, 2024 23:12:30 GMT 1
Just got too many players who are at end of career and a combo of crap signings or injury prone players.
Basically a cheap way to run a club
Lees Pearson look old, we cant have them both playing at the back
RWB is a problem and putting Spencer there is a bad move
Kane lad has a backbone but physically a pub player. Cheap signing.
Kasumu fast and furious but headless chicken disappears from the game
Wiles …turns up 1 in 3 games
We signed Evans and he’s no longer needed
Bojan …absolutely crap from mental application, to physically and therefore struggles to score
Ward ..past it
It’s a mess and we only beat sides that are frightened of us
I think that fear is wearing off and sides are competing with us
I hope Kev now your free from Sac Town in your reduced ownership we can start building the football side of things as clubs with less resources are competing and beating us
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Post by runner76 on Nov 9, 2024 23:15:26 GMT 1
ANYWAY….how did they manage to sell more tickets than there was space to stand?  ? How bloody packed was it!?!? UTFT!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2024 23:22:58 GMT 1
ANYWAY….how did they manage to sell more tickets than there was space to stand? ? How bloody packed was it!?!? UTFT!! Wasn’t too packed Absolutely loved it though, as someone younger who is used to seater stadiums the atmosphere just felt so much better. One of my favourite games I’ve been to, despite the poor result. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2024 23:26:19 GMT 1
The game changed when Healey came on. It’s a shame that he’s never gonna be fully fit as he is our only striker that looks a cut above League One.
As for Bojan and Marshall…
I almost feel sorry for Radulovic, it’s just so clear that he’s not up to English football. No pace, no physicality, looks like he jogs around the pitch when he’s probably trying to sprint ! He’s actually a tidy footballer and played a couple of nice passes but without any sort of pace he’s never going to be any good for us.
Marshall was somehow even worse today. Ran around like a headless chicken without ever winning the ball back or making any useful runs, offered nothing on the ball and was rightfully hooked at halftime.
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 9, 2024 23:36:22 GMT 1
ANYWAY….how did they manage to sell more tickets than there was space to stand? ? How bloody packed was it!?!? UTFT!! The left hand side of the goal (facing pitch) wasn't that packed at all. In fact I was thinking health and safety allowed more space than you used to get. |
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Post by dezzly on Nov 9, 2024 23:54:12 GMT 1
Just wanted to say also,anyone calling for duff to go really really needs to calm down.
I’m not sure he’s the man for the long term myself but I think he is the man for this level and to get us out of it.
Being let down by 2 or 3 really.
Folk will argue with his post match comments,and while I don’t want to agree because I’m pissed off,if you take out the emotion,they did only have 3 shots,scored twice.We missed 3 sitters so did have the chances to win 2 games and even though we weren’t really that great,we were the better side.The problem with the last comment is that we shouldn’t be settling for that.
That said changing the manager isn’t the answer I don’t believe.
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Post by cyberman on Nov 10, 2024 0:04:44 GMT 1
I ring my father who is 93 after every Town game. He saw them when they were good and his father and uncles saw them in the '20s. He stopped going when his mobility became a problem, but he listens to Radio Leeds every game. He told me tonight that he had got two tickets to go and watch Town: I was amazed. I asked him how he was going to get there and how on earth he was going to get up the steps with his sticks. He said, "I'm going on the bus, because they'll be playing Wooldale Wanderers"! and probably fucking lose |
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Post by Tiro on Nov 10, 2024 0:19:00 GMT 1
I ring my father who is 93 after every Town game. He saw them when they were good and his father and uncles saw them in the '20s. He stopped going when his mobility became a problem, but he listens to Radio Leeds every game. He told me tonight that he had got two tickets to go and watch Town: I was amazed. I asked him how he was going to get there and how on earth he was going to get up the steps with his sticks. He said, "I'm going on the bus, because they'll be playing Wooldale Wanderers"! and probably fucking lose He’s 93 after every game? How old is he before it? |
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Post by ambryboy on Nov 10, 2024 0:31:14 GMT 1
Not seen any comment on it, but…… The Last Post and the minute’s silence were both impeccably observed by all the fans today. It seemed a long minute today. |
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Nov 10, 2024 0:47:43 GMT 1
On my way home and struggling to have any connection with this team at all. No matter what Duff says we weren’t the better team today. We played in fits and starts and to be honest I feel I am going to games due to force of habit than anything else. Seeing my mates was the best part of today. This pile of shite can get in the bin. See you at Mansfield 😂 Absolutely were the better team, have been in all but what 3 games this season. Doesn't make it good unfortunately. |
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Post by ringdisco on Nov 10, 2024 9:57:16 GMT 1
Positives today; A new ground. The January transfer window is a week nearer. Negatives today Everything else. Always hoping for the next window, what about the last one? See no point in expecting January to be any different. |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Nov 10, 2024 10:28:22 GMT 1
Can see it now. 3rd May and a hard fought 1-1 draw with Leyton Orient to seal 12th place. A rapturous applause by the simpletons as the players do their lap of honour. We go again !! |
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Post by scroutum on Nov 10, 2024 10:40:09 GMT 1
its a poor team we have thats not up to a league1 promotion,let that sink in
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Post by bogart on Nov 10, 2024 10:41:58 GMT 1
Should Chapman not have done better on the 1st goal? Written all over it that is was going to go across him, too flat footed.
Two good things about yesterday, nice beers in the Brewery Shades in town centre and the train home.
Oh and well done for the minutes silence not a murmer.
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Post by 28901 on Nov 10, 2024 10:44:32 GMT 1
ANYWAY….how did they manage to sell more tickets than there was space to stand? ? How bloody packed was it!?!? UTFT!! The left hand side of the goal (facing pitch) wasn't that packed at all. In fact I was thinking health and safety allowed more space than you used to get. There are all sorts of regulations going into a standing capacity these days. There's the actual space, the barriers, the condition of the terracing, entry and exit conditions. The days of just cramming them in are long gone. Sadly in someways because crammed into a packed, swaying away end was brilliant back in the day. Sometimes your feet literally didnt touch the floor. It was however, an accident waiting to happen. |
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Post by kimbo999 on Nov 10, 2024 10:49:53 GMT 1
Should Chapman not have done better on the 1st goal? Written all over it that is was going to go across him, too flat footed. Two good things about yesterday, nice beers in the Brewery Shades in town centre and the train home. Oh and well done for the minutes silence not a murmer. I'm training my lad [6yrs old] to be a keeper and said exactly this to him his body position was wrong and looked flat footed. In my opinion Nichols saves it. Il caveat it by I do generally like Chapman all keepers can mis judge angles make mistakes I'd say more at fault was Spencer diving in not aware of what's around him. |
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Post by ilsonterrier on Nov 10, 2024 10:50:16 GMT 1
Home by 530pm but only just starting to get caught up with the forum. Hope Town fans found the car park I recommended and have a good trip back up. Car park worked well although we didn't get away quite as quickly as you'd suggested. By the time we got back to the car the car park was at a complete standstill. Nothing moved for 10 minutes whilst we were sat there, and probably for longer than that as there was already a queue around it. Anyway, once it started moving, it shifted quickly and we were on the M23 by 5.20pm and back here for 8.45pm - after having to go via the M4 and M40 as the M25 was shut. All in all, a good spot, and one I'd use again if I ever go to Crawley again (unlikely!) so thanks for the info. |
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Post by Sio on Nov 10, 2024 10:53:03 GMT 1
Should Chapman not have done better on the 1st goal? Written all over it that is was going to go across him, too flat footed. Two good things about yesterday, nice beers in the Brewery Shades in town centre and the train home. Oh and well done for the minutes silence not a murmer. Totally agree. No player at this level is going to try anything fancy by going near post - he was going across him all day long. Thought he was completely out of position. |
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Post by ilsonterrier on Nov 10, 2024 10:56:27 GMT 1
The left hand side of the goal (facing pitch) wasn't that packed at all. In fact I was thinking health and safety allowed more space than you used to get. There are all sorts of regulations going into a standing capacity these days. There's the actual space, the barriers, the condition of the terracing, entry and exit conditions. The days of just cramming them in are long gone. Sadly in someways because crammed into a packed, swaying away end was brilliant back in the day. Sometimes your feet literally didnt touch the floor. It was however, an accident waiting to happen. It was pretty full where we were stood (the goal was to our left, presume that was the opposite side to Andy) although I wouldn't have said it was at capacity. Interesting what you say about entries and exits as it seemed to take far too long to exit the ground at that end, given that the terracing wasn't that big a one. I know that in the case of an emergency we would have been able to exit on to the pitch but it felt poor access to get out of the ground. |
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Post by specialun on Nov 10, 2024 11:24:18 GMT 1
Striker aside I can’t recall anyone saying that at the end of the window Kept our best keeper most thought would go Kept our best centre half and POTS Signed centre half promoted as champion from league one after Balker injury Signed left wing back won promotion from league one Signed right wing back Lincoln POTS Signed attacking midfield Bristol POTS Signed league one play off captain Signed premier league striker on loan Signed premier league centre mid on loan Who was saying it was a god awful window? The gap was a striker. Injuries to injury prone players (no surprise healer nicholls ward etc) and others but we have a big squad and big budget at this level But how many of those signings have improved the side? I wouldn’t expect them to improve us we got relegated from a higher league they’re cheaper options They’ve either succeeded in a team winning promotion or personally excelled at this level in another team or with another manager They’ve had what it takes to excel at league one. If they look bangs average now then you have to ask why Over to Duff to replicate that level. He has tools that have been successful at this level. Over to him to make a team out of the players. That’s his job. |
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Post by htafcdan on Nov 10, 2024 11:30:15 GMT 1
Still think we miss Hodge and will be a far better team when he’s back. Id put him in over Kasumu and maybe try Kasumu wingback as I thought he was good there under Warnock. Put Helik in over Lees too
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 10, 2024 11:46:00 GMT 1
Home by 530pm but only just starting to get caught up with the forum. Hope Town fans found the car park I recommended and have a good trip back up. Car park worked well although we didn't get away quite as quickly as you'd suggested. By the time we got back to the car the car park was at a complete standstill. Nothing moved for 10 minutes whilst we were sat there, and probably for longer than that as there was already a queue around it. Anyway, once it started moving, it shifted quickly and we were on the M23 by 5.20pm and back here for 8.45pm - after having to go via the M4 and M40 as the M25 was shut. All in all, a good spot, and one I'd use again if I ever go to Crawley again (unlikely!) so thanks for the info. We left immediately at the end as our son-in-law, who was driving, was going out again at 630pm so we needed a quick getaway. It’s very handy for the ground. |
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Post by Larry David on Nov 10, 2024 11:47:05 GMT 1
I thought Kasumu was poor yesterday. Chicken gave him a 7 but I thought he was a passenger for much of the game.
Midfield is a massive issue. We don't control games, we lose possession so much and we rarely have midfielders showing for the ball and looking to link defence to attack.
This is so evident when you see Lees being it out from the back, put his foot on it then lass to the sides.
We lack real quality in the middle, and seems to have bought loads of bang average and quiet players.
I hope Hodge can come back soon as rate him.
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Post by captainblack on Nov 10, 2024 11:59:07 GMT 1
I don't mean any disrespect for Crawley town ,though its the sort of club in their position
that we should be beating if we really have the desire to be promoted this season., , I felt
at the beginning of the season we would finish 7th/8th,this seems to be being borne out now.
Will we invest in more players in January ? who knows , most likely not though .
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Post by richhtfc on Nov 10, 2024 12:58:52 GMT 1
I thought Kasumu was poor yesterday. Chicken gave him a 7 but I thought he was a passenger for much of the game. Midfield is a massive issue. We don't control games, we lose possession so much and we rarely have midfielders showing for the ball and looking to link defence to attack. This is so evident when you see Lees being it out from the back, put his foot on it then lass to the sides. We lack real quality in the middle, and seems to have bought loads of bang average and quiet players. I hope Hodge can come back soon as rate him. It was similar to the problems we gave ourselves against Blackpool and Northampton, the midfield pushed too high so the creativity is left to the defenders. We’re better if the midfielders don’t push as high and can get on the ball with more space in front of them |
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Post by sabailand on Nov 10, 2024 13:26:21 GMT 1
I know it wont go down well in the current circumstances, amidst the complaints of everything being shit yesterday the game on its own was decent, a pretty open game, a neutral would have come away thinking he'd seen a decent match, still disappointing for us though.
As for some of the above comments questioning Chapman for the first goal, it was a nicely taken goal and sometimes its not necessarilly because of oppositions alleged errors.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Nov 10, 2024 13:33:45 GMT 1
I know it wont go down well in the current circumstances, amidst the complaints of everything being shit yesterday the game on its own was decent, a pretty open game, a neutral would have come away thinking he'd seen a decent match, still disappointing for us though.As for some of the above comments questioning Chapman for the first goal, it was a nicely taken goal and sometimes its not necessarilly because of oppositions alleged errors. Yup. We are just a mid table side. It happens to mid table sides. |
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Post by bogart on Nov 10, 2024 14:04:15 GMT 1
I know it wont go down well in the current circumstances, amidst the complaints of everything being shit yesterday the game on its own was decent, a pretty open game, a neutral would have come away thinking he'd seen a decent match, still disappointing for us though.As for some of the above comments questioning Chapman for the first goal, it was a nicely taken goal and sometimes its not necessarilly because of oppositions alleged errors. Something was amiss with him. Wrong starting position and inability to adjust. The shot flight was nailed on he could just not see it. Once he is past Spencer he has only one thing in mind , he advertises that by opening his body and off it goes. I could see it coming a couple of seconds before it happened, thinking to myself far corner. So yes fault of Chapman in my view. Like goalies if they fuff it an analysis is done, whereas Wiles missed sitter goes somewhat under the radar. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Nov 10, 2024 14:47:17 GMT 1
People have every right to be angry, pissed off or even totally apathetic with this club... it's a long hard slog of a watch at the moment, however, for those saying we have no chance of promotion, that is just ridiculous. Sparrow has provided the facts, our league position, our current form etc. we have every chance of promotion, if nothing else cos this is a shit league & if any of about 8 teams can find any consistency, they'll be well in the mix.
We are currently missing Nicholls, Helik (obvs not for long now), Sorenson, Hodge & Hogg who can all help the team. I'm sorry, I think I was one of the first to realise Schofield wasn't going to be a decent gk for us, unfortunately, I feel the same about Chapman.
Tuesday, for such a ridiculous competition, now becomes massive for the club. If we don't beat Man Utd U21s, & beat them well, we will lose the confidence of a lot of fans.... when we are already in a place where a huge amount of fans are losing confidence anyway. We have to play a full strength side now, no excuse not to, with another sodding international break coming up, & we have to beat their kids comprehensively.
If we insist on playing with 5 at the back, Helik has to replace Lees, probably not much difference in defending but more of a threat from set pieces. What we do up front is more worrying, it isn't Duff's fault that Koroma can't head a football, Bojan looks like he wants to be anywhere but on a football pitch, Marshall isn't the answer, I'm fed up of him committing stupid fouls giving the impression he's getting stuck in, when he isn't etc. All our strikers are the same, can't win a 50/50 header with any CB, all have no pace, can't link up play very well & can't hold it up.
Bit like Town in a full 90 mins currently, I've lost interest in even finishing this post so I'll stop now.
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? How bloody packed was it!?!? UTFT!!
