Nagle steps down as majority owner of Sacramento Republic

[Dan]

Big news coming out of Sacramento tonight. Press conference about to start anouncing plans for their new stadium.

Also been announced that Wilton Rancheria have taken over majority ownership of Republic FC from Chairman Kevin Nagle, who will remain a managing partner and primary voice in the club’s operations.

www.sacbee.com/news/local/article295160894.html

[drewden]

A striker in January at last.

[bells ringing :)]

I wonder if in exchange, Wilton Rancheria will become a minorty shareholder at town?

[seanyd1brit]

Heard the name Wilton Rancheria and was hoping we’d signed a new striker.

[goodbet]

Is this correct?

A different ownership approach.

Wilton Rancheria Tribal History
The members of Wilton Rancheria are descendants of the Penutian linguistic family identified as speaking the Miwok dialect. The Tribe’s Indigenous Territory encompasses Sacramento County. The lands the Tribe’s ancestors inhabited were located along a path of massive death and destruction of California Indians caused by Spanish, Mexican, and American military incursions, disease and slavery, and the violence accompanying mining and settlements. Between March 1851 and January 1852, three commissioners hastily negotiated eighteen treaties with representatives of some of the indigenous population in California. The ancestors of the Tribe were party to the treaty signed at the Forks of the Cosumnes. The Treaty of the Forks of the Cosumnes River ceded the lands on which the Wilton Rancheria in Sacramento County was later established, but promised to establish a rancheria beginning at the Cosumnes River, “commencing at a point on the Cosumnes river, on the western line of the county, running south on and by said line to its terminus, running east on said line twenty-five miles, thence north to the middle fork of the Cosumnes river, down said stream to the place of beginning; to have and to hold the said district of country for the sole use and occupancy of said Tribe forever.”


The Tribe’s ancestors came back from nearly being annihilated only to have their children taken to boarding schools that stripped their indigenous language and culture further. Finally in July of 1928 the United State of America acquired land in trust for the Miwok people that were living in Sacramento County. A 38.77 acre tract of land in Wilton, Sacramento County, California was purchased from the Cosumnes Company which formally established the Wilton Rancheria. In 1958, the United States Congress enacted the Rancheria Act, authorizing the termination of federal trust responsibilities to 41 California Indian Tribes including Wilton Rancheria. The Tribe official lost its Federal Recognition in 1964.


Congress reconsidered their policy of termination in favor of Indian self-determination in the 1970s. In 1991, surviving members of Wilton Rancheria reorganized their tribal government and in 1999 they requested the United States to formally restore their federal recognition. Ten years later a decision of a U.S. District Court Judge gave Wilton Rancheria restoration, restoring the Tribe to a Federally Recognized Tribe in 2009. Wilton Rancheria is a federally recognized Indian Tribe as listed in the Federal Register, Vol. 74, No. 132, p. 33468-33469, as “Wilton Rancheria of Wilton, California”. The Tribe passed their constitution in 2011. It stated its four branches of government that includes the Office of the Chair & Vice Chair, the Tribal Council, a Tribal-Court, and the General Council. The Tribe’s administration office is located in the City of Elk Grove, Sacramento County in California.


As stated in the Federal Register, Vol. 78, No. 176, Notices 55731, on September 11, 2013 the Tribe was designated the geographic boundaries of the Service Delivery Area (SDA) of Sacramento County in the State of California. As the only Federally Recognized Tribe in Sacramento County it is designated administratively as the Tribe’s SDA. To function as a Contract Health Service Delivery Area (CHSDA), for the purpose of operating a Contract Health Service (CHS) program pursuant to the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistant Act (ISDEAA), Public Law 93–638.

[htafcdan]

What does this mean for us, that Nagle will now invest more into us than them?

[tepidterrier]

A Native American tribe owning a professional football club must be a first surely. I wonder if he's going to be spending longer over here, or spending more money over here, as a result.

Ultimately, Nagle took over Sacramento Republic making a lot of big promises which he's not fulfilled. They've been a successful team for the league they're in nonetheless.

[andre2000]

[Dan]

Few replies from Dave on their forum...

sacramentoburner2
37m ago
Nagle was shopping Republic this whole time. He has wanted out since he bought Huddersfield. I don’t know how that can be disputed now.

CarmichaelDave3
29m ago
What are you talking about?

He still owns a large chunk and will remain as the operating owner. None of that changes.

Fit_Neighborhood_953
14m ago
This. He's always known we needed deeper pockets to take next steps. I do think he over-leveraged himself with the huddersfield purchase. But none of us have existed on that level, or understand the thinking at those economic levels.

CarmichaelDave3
6m ago
Appreciate that but he didn’t at all. He sold his shares in the Kings and invested the proceeds in Town. At no time were the finances intertwined, and he’s been obsessed with this deal forever. Had to make sure it was the right partners, and not people that would be irresponsible with the club.

[kenmonkoucb]

Might be me being really thick here…

But where does the tribe get the money to invest in a football club and if they do have money what sense does it make for them buying a football club?

[mosher]

Nov 7, 2024 19:31:31 GMT 1 goodbet said:

Is this correct?

A different ownership approach.

Wilton Rancheria Tribal History
The members of Wilton Rancheria are descendants of the Penutian linguistic family identified as speaking the Miwok dialect. The Tribe’s Indigenous Territory encompasses Sacramento County. The lands the Tribe’s ancestors inhabited were located along a path of massive death and destruction of California Indians caused by Spanish, Mexican, and American military incursions, disease and slavery, and the violence accompanying mining and settlements. Between March 1851 and January 1852, three commissioners hastily negotiated eighteen treaties with representatives of some of the indigenous population in California. The ancestors of the Tribe were party to the treaty signed at the Forks of the Cosumnes. The Treaty of the Forks of the Cosumnes River ceded the lands on which the Wilton Rancheria in Sacramento County was later established, but promised to establish a rancheria beginning at the Cosumnes River, “commencing at a point on the Cosumnes river, on the western line of the county, running south on and by said line to its terminus, running east on said line twenty-five miles, thence north to the middle fork of the Cosumnes river, down said stream to the place of beginning; to have and to hold the said district of country for the sole use and occupancy of said Tribe forever.”


The Tribe’s ancestors came back from nearly being annihilated only to have their children taken to boarding schools that stripped their indigenous language and culture further. Finally in July of 1928 the United State of America acquired land in trust for the Miwok people that were living in Sacramento County. A 38.77 acre tract of land in Wilton, Sacramento County, California was purchased from the Cosumnes Company which formally established the Wilton Rancheria. In 1958, the United States Congress enacted the Rancheria Act, authorizing the termination of federal trust responsibilities to 41 California Indian Tribes including Wilton Rancheria. The Tribe official lost its Federal Recognition in 1964.


Congress reconsidered their policy of termination in favor of Indian self-determination in the 1970s. In 1991, surviving members of Wilton Rancheria reorganized their tribal government and in 1999 they requested the United States to formally restore their federal recognition. Ten years later a decision of a U.S. District Court Judge gave Wilton Rancheria restoration, restoring the Tribe to a Federally Recognized Tribe in 2009. Wilton Rancheria is a federally recognized Indian Tribe as listed in the Federal Register, Vol. 74, No. 132, p. 33468-33469, as “Wilton Rancheria of Wilton, California”. The Tribe passed their constitution in 2011. It stated its four branches of government that includes the Office of the Chair & Vice Chair, the Tribal Council, a Tribal-Court, and the General Council. The Tribe’s administration office is located in the City of Elk Grove, Sacramento County in California.


As stated in the Federal Register, Vol. 78, No. 176, Notices 55731, on September 11, 2013 the Tribe was designated the geographic boundaries of the Service Delivery Area (SDA) of Sacramento County in the State of California. As the only Federally Recognized Tribe in Sacramento County it is designated administratively as the Tribe’s SDA. To function as a Contract Health Service Delivery Area (CHSDA), for the purpose of operating a Contract Health Service (CHS) program pursuant to the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistant Act (ISDEAA), Public Law 93–638.

I’ll copy n paste that into one of the Native American groups I follow** on Fakebook, see if there’s any info from them

** started following them after a friend did a DNA test and found she was 11% (iirc) Pawnee, but tbh I’ve loved NA culture since I was kid, was always an “indian” when we played “cowboys & indians” as a kid

[mosher]

Nov 7, 2024 20:09:55 GMT 1 kenmonkoucb said:

Might be me being really thick here…

But where does the tribe get the money to invest in a football club and if they do have money what sense does it make for them buying a football club?

A lot of tribal leaders became rich off the back of Casinos** and running businesses on the Reservations, tribes as a whole have also received reparations from the US government

Not saying that’s DEFINITELY how these guys have raised the funds but that’s how SOME funds were raised by tribes in the past

** a stereotype I know but with roots in truth

[philatrickstarbuck]

Casinos, shit loads of them 🤑

[philatrickstarbuck]

Nov 7, 2024 20:18:05 GMT 1 philatrickstarbuck said:

Casinos, shit loads of them 🤑

Well maybe just one...

[keithAM11532]

Nov 7, 2024 20:13:15 GMT 1 mosher said:

Nov 7, 2024 20:09:55 GMT 1 kenmonkoucb said:

Might be me being really thick here…

But where does the tribe get the money to invest in a football club and if they do have money what sense does it make for them buying a football club?

A lot of tribal leaders became rich off the back of Casinos** and running businesses on the Reservations, tribes as a whole have also received reparations from the US government

Not saying that’s DEFINITELY how these guys have raised the funds but that’s how SOME funds were raised by tribes in the past

** a stereotype I know but with roots in truth

Outside of Nevada and maybe Atlantic Beach I am not sure about that all other states can only have a casino if it is owned by a Native American tribe

Edit. They don’t have to be owned by them but most are because they can operate outside of state gambling laws

[goodbet]

Nov 7, 2024 20:10:05 GMT 1 mosher said:

Nov 7, 2024 19:31:31 GMT 1 goodbet said:

Is this correct?

A different ownership approach.

Wilton Rancheria Tribal History
The members of Wilton Rancheria are descendants of the Penutian linguistic family identified as speaking the Miwok dialect. The Tribe’s Indigenous Territory encompasses Sacramento County. The lands the Tribe’s ancestors inhabited were located along a path of massive death and destruction of California Indians caused by Spanish, Mexican, and American military incursions, disease and slavery, and the violence accompanying mining and settlements. Between March 1851 and January 1852, three commissioners hastily negotiated eighteen treaties with representatives of some of the indigenous population in California. The ancestors of the Tribe were party to the treaty signed at the Forks of the Cosumnes. The Treaty of the Forks of the Cosumnes River ceded the lands on which the Wilton Rancheria in Sacramento County was later established, but promised to establish a rancheria beginning at the Cosumnes River, “commencing at a point on the Cosumnes river, on the western line of the county, running south on and by said line to its terminus, running east on said line twenty-five miles, thence north to the middle fork of the Cosumnes river, down said stream to the place of beginning; to have and to hold the said district of country for the sole use and occupancy of said Tribe forever.”


The Tribe’s ancestors came back from nearly being annihilated only to have their children taken to boarding schools that stripped their indigenous language and culture further. Finally in July of 1928 the United State of America acquired land in trust for the Miwok people that were living in Sacramento County. A 38.77 acre tract of land in Wilton, Sacramento County, California was purchased from the Cosumnes Company which formally established the Wilton Rancheria. In 1958, the United States Congress enacted the Rancheria Act, authorizing the termination of federal trust responsibilities to 41 California Indian Tribes including Wilton Rancheria. The Tribe official lost its Federal Recognition in 1964.


Congress reconsidered their policy of termination in favor of Indian self-determination in the 1970s. In 1991, surviving members of Wilton Rancheria reorganized their tribal government and in 1999 they requested the United States to formally restore their federal recognition. Ten years later a decision of a U.S. District Court Judge gave Wilton Rancheria restoration, restoring the Tribe to a Federally Recognized Tribe in 2009. Wilton Rancheria is a federally recognized Indian Tribe as listed in the Federal Register, Vol. 74, No. 132, p. 33468-33469, as “Wilton Rancheria of Wilton, California”. The Tribe passed their constitution in 2011. It stated its four branches of government that includes the Office of the Chair & Vice Chair, the Tribal Council, a Tribal-Court, and the General Council. The Tribe’s administration office is located in the City of Elk Grove, Sacramento County in California.


As stated in the Federal Register, Vol. 78, No. 176, Notices 55731, on September 11, 2013 the Tribe was designated the geographic boundaries of the Service Delivery Area (SDA) of Sacramento County in the State of California. As the only Federally Recognized Tribe in Sacramento County it is designated administratively as the Tribe’s SDA. To function as a Contract Health Service Delivery Area (CHSDA), for the purpose of operating a Contract Health Service (CHS) program pursuant to the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistant Act (ISDEAA), Public Law 93–638.

I’ll copy n paste that into one of the Native American groups I follow** on Fakebook, see if there’s any info from them

** started following them after a friend did a DNA test and found she was 11% (iirc) Pawnee, but tbh I’ve loved NA culture since I was kid, was always an “indian” when we played “cowboys & indians” as a kid

Have they gone from a cowboy over to indians now

[mosher]

Nov 7, 2024 20:31:16 GMT 1 keithAM11532 said:

Nov 7, 2024 20:13:15 GMT 1 mosher said:

A lot of tribal leaders became rich off the back of Casinos** and running businesses on the Reservations, tribes as a whole have also received reparations from the US government

Not saying that’s DEFINITELY how these guys have raised the funds but that’s how SOME funds were raised by tribes in the past

** a stereotype I know but with roots in truth

Outside of Nevada and maybe Atlantic Beach I am not sure about that all other states can only have a casino if it is owned by a Native American tribe

Edit. They don’t have to be owned by them but most are because they can operate outside of state gambling laws

I remember reading something about Reservations having different laws than federal states or they were exempt from some federal laws, nice to hear/see it confirmed 👍

[digs]

Nov 7, 2024 20:54:51 GMT 1 mosher said:

Nov 7, 2024 20:31:16 GMT 1 keithAM11532 said:

Outside of Nevada and maybe Atlantic Beach I am not sure about that all other states can only have a casino if it is owned by a Native American tribe

Edit. They don’t have to be owned by them but most are because they can operate outside of state gambling laws

I remember reading something about Reservations having different laws than federal states or they were exempt from some federal laws, nice to hear/see it confirmed 👍

Tulsa king(Stallone) part owns a bar on Native American land,his partner just tells the cops to fuck off out when they come a calling.

[ldr]

Is it just me or does this seem a bizarre twist? A million miles away from Keith Longbottom.

[colnevalleyblue]

Nov 7, 2024 20:54:51 GMT 1 mosher said:

Nov 7, 2024 20:31:16 GMT 1 keithAM11532 said:

Outside of Nevada and maybe Atlantic Beach I am not sure about that all other states can only have a casino if it is owned by a Native American tribe

Edit. They don’t have to be owned by them but most are because they can operate outside of state gambling laws

I remember reading something about Reservations having different laws than federal states or they were exempt from some federal laws, nice to hear/see it confirmed 👍

They do indeed own a casino.

[utttrooper]

Nov 7, 2024 21:41:29 GMT 1 ldr said:

Is it just me or does this seem a bizarre twist? A million miles away from Keith Longbottom.

No, just 5,200 or so miles away.

[ldr]

Nov 7, 2024 22:39:44 GMT 1 utttrooper said:

Nov 7, 2024 21:41:29 GMT 1 ldr said:

Is it just me or does this seem a bizarre twist? A million miles away from Keith Longbottom.

No, just 5,200 or so miles away.

Is that to the casino? If so, it’s not always so black and red.

[jjamez]

Tbh it seems like a good deal for nagle. Hes still an owner, maintains a big say in the club, has probably received a decent sum for the share he's sold, suddenly the local government/council whatever it's called over there are willing to discuss the new stadium, if not the new owners might be able to source something perhaps, who knows and finally the MLS will probably want to usher them into the league fairly quickly considering the native American ownership.

I might be completely wrong there, but it sounds like what he's been striving for and falling just short has finally come through.

What that means for us could be owt or nowt, realistically I'm thinking nothing, but if they do make the MLS in the next few years then it could lead to more operational synergy

[nickhtafc82]

Nov 7, 2024 22:54:41 GMT 1 jjamez said:

Tbh it seems like a good deal for nagle. Hes still an owner, maintains a big say in the club, has probably received a decent sum for the share he's sold, suddenly the local government/council whatever it's called over there are willing to discuss the new stadium, if not the new owners might be able to source something perhaps, who knows and finally the MLS will probably want to usher them into the league fairly quickly considering the native American ownership.

I might be completely wrong there, but it sounds like what he's been striving for and falling just short has finally come through.

What that means for us could be owt or nowt, realistically I'm thinking nothing, but if they do make the MLS in the next few years then it could lead to more operational synergy

Sound logic me thinks.

[28901]

Nov 7, 2024 20:10:05 GMT 1 mosher said:

Nov 7, 2024 19:31:31 GMT 1 goodbet said:

Is this correct?

A different ownership approach.

Wilton Rancheria Tribal History
The members of Wilton Rancheria are descendants of the Penutian linguistic family identified as speaking the Miwok dialect. The Tribe’s Indigenous Territory encompasses Sacramento County. The lands the Tribe’s ancestors inhabited were located along a path of massive death and destruction of California Indians caused by Spanish, Mexican, and American military incursions, disease and slavery, and the violence accompanying mining and settlements. Between March 1851 and January 1852, three commissioners hastily negotiated eighteen treaties with representatives of some of the indigenous population in California. The ancestors of the Tribe were party to the treaty signed at the Forks of the Cosumnes. The Treaty of the Forks of the Cosumnes River ceded the lands on which the Wilton Rancheria in Sacramento County was later established, but promised to establish a rancheria beginning at the Cosumnes River, “commencing at a point on the Cosumnes river, on the western line of the county, running south on and by said line to its terminus, running east on said line twenty-five miles, thence north to the middle fork of the Cosumnes river, down said stream to the place of beginning; to have and to hold the said district of country for the sole use and occupancy of said Tribe forever.”


The Tribe’s ancestors came back from nearly being annihilated only to have their children taken to boarding schools that stripped their indigenous language and culture further. Finally in July of 1928 the United State of America acquired land in trust for the Miwok people that were living in Sacramento County. A 38.77 acre tract of land in Wilton, Sacramento County, California was purchased from the Cosumnes Company which formally established the Wilton Rancheria. In 1958, the United States Congress enacted the Rancheria Act, authorizing the termination of federal trust responsibilities to 41 California Indian Tribes including Wilton Rancheria. The Tribe official lost its Federal Recognition in 1964.


Congress reconsidered their policy of termination in favor of Indian self-determination in the 1970s. In 1991, surviving members of Wilton Rancheria reorganized their tribal government and in 1999 they requested the United States to formally restore their federal recognition. Ten years later a decision of a U.S. District Court Judge gave Wilton Rancheria restoration, restoring the Tribe to a Federally Recognized Tribe in 2009. Wilton Rancheria is a federally recognized Indian Tribe as listed in the Federal Register, Vol. 74, No. 132, p. 33468-33469, as “Wilton Rancheria of Wilton, California”. The Tribe passed their constitution in 2011. It stated its four branches of government that includes the Office of the Chair & Vice Chair, the Tribal Council, a Tribal-Court, and the General Council. The Tribe’s administration office is located in the City of Elk Grove, Sacramento County in California.


As stated in the Federal Register, Vol. 78, No. 176, Notices 55731, on September 11, 2013 the Tribe was designated the geographic boundaries of the Service Delivery Area (SDA) of Sacramento County in the State of California. As the only Federally Recognized Tribe in Sacramento County it is designated administratively as the Tribe’s SDA. To function as a Contract Health Service Delivery Area (CHSDA), for the purpose of operating a Contract Health Service (CHS) program pursuant to the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistant Act (ISDEAA), Public Law 93–638.

I’ll copy n paste that into one of the Native American groups I follow** on Fakebook, see if there’s any info from them

** started following them after a friend did a DNA test and found she was 11% (iirc) Pawnee, but tbh I’ve loved NA culture since I was kid, was always an “indian” when we played “cowboys & indians” as a kid

That'll be 'Cattle Persons and First Nation Indeginous Americans' Mosh

[terriersyndrome]

Good news for Sac fans that they'll finally get their stadium. Hope good news is around the corner regarding our stadium soon aswell.

[runner76]

Surely this is good news for Town? More investment surely this side of the pond…….unless he plans to sell to Dewsbury or Holme Valley
Tribal folk?

[royrace]

I googled Wilton thinking it was a bloke

Seems a good deal from what I can gather, the investment they need to build their stadium and move forward. I guess the tribe is worth a few quid!

Anyone know what SRFC would be worth? I know the cost of an MLS franchise is obscene so assume SRFC is probably worth more than an equivalent club here.

[irverino]

Some of the Sac fans call Town KN's toy, ok it may well be but the fact is its a toy that can get you to the worlds richest league in national football.
Even if Sac were to get into MLS league they would still be financially miles behind, the lowest valued team in PL (Ipswich) is currently more than double the value of MLS top team (Inter Miami)........Kev told Oggy on RL he needs to visit at least every 6-8 weeks, he knows the extra trips/time are necessary to achieve his ultimate goal of the Premier league, hopefully both teams will benefit from this move.

[Captainslapper]

Nov 7, 2024 21:51:55 GMT 1 colnevalleyblue said:

Nov 7, 2024 20:54:51 GMT 1 mosher said:

I remember reading something about Reservations having different laws than federal states or they were exempt from some federal laws, nice to hear/see it confirmed 👍

They do indeed own a casino.

Wonder if theyre the ones who bought the transporter bridge in Middlesbrough to cross the ravine so everyone could get to it?