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Post by The Real True Blue on Oct 20, 2008 22:40:54 GMT 1
Good point ... ... ... I just find it laughable that Stan would have brought up a son that felt he needed to come on to a message board and stick up for his dad. Hardly the kind of thing you would expect of Ternent. Im sure if he knew his son had come on here crying about the way a few people had spoken about him, then he would be a bit pissed off with him for doing so. I think Stan can fight his own battles and speak for himself to be honest (or perhaps not going on his record of non-attendances at supporters meetings) Or radio interviews.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 22:44:17 GMT 1
I just find it laughable that Stan would have brought up a son that felt he needed to come on to a message board and stick up for his dad. Hardly the kind of thing you would expect of Ternent. Im sure if he knew his son had come on here crying about the way a few people had spoken about him, then he would be a bit pissed off with him for doing so. I think Stan can fight his own battles and speak for himself to be honest (or perhaps not going on his record of non-attendances at supporters meetings) How would you react to someone calling your Dad a "tw*t" or a "wife beater", coming from someone who doesn't know him personally? Chris is clearly taking an interest in how Town are doing, with his Dad in charge... hence being signed up 4 months ... and rightly, he's stood up against the unreasonable stick his Dad's been getting. Added to that, he's made his points constructively and fairly. I didnt say anything about the quality of his post just that i didnt think it was really his son. If im wrong then fair enough, just find it strange that he felt he needed to defend his dad. Football isnt like other jobs etc, every club has fans who are always going to dislike their manager no matter what they do (look at arsenal) so i think his son just needs to accept its part and parcel of the job. By the way, i have at no point said anything offensive towards ternent on here...i think.
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Post by wonderousworthy on Oct 20, 2008 22:45:11 GMT 1
Whats that written on the ceiling?? GULLIBLE Some posters are just morons on here thus being you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 22:47:31 GMT 1
Whats that written on the ceiling?? GULLIBLE Some posters are just morons on here thus being you Ok, sorry Chris mate, never meant to hurt yours or your dads feelings, i hope he is ok
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Post by deo1 on Oct 20, 2008 22:50:51 GMT 1
if my dad was a football manager of a football league club i'd look on the fans forums on the internet. if people were slagging him off like they have been doing towards stan i'd have been on here along time ago. if someone crosses my family i'll defend them with my life. i'd say it on the net and to their face...family is everything!!!! up the terriers!!!! in stan i trust!!!!!
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Post by stevvy on Oct 20, 2008 22:53:32 GMT 1
well,the post from him was unexpected to say the least,definitely agree that some of the comments have been unacceptable (would the people giving stan ridiculous personal abuse be man/woman enough to say it to his face?doubt it,those people are cowards-would they like those sort of comments aimed at them instead?doubt it,no reason for it at all) not gonna pretend im a stan fan,cos at the moment im still waiting to be totally convinced (though he has done some good things,eg a bit of discipline,and bringing roberts in particular to the club) he may come good,i hope he does,still need alot of convincing though
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Post by Davey Monroe on Oct 20, 2008 22:58:28 GMT 1
Whats that written on the ceiling?? GULLIBLE Even if this post was a hoax I would imagine it's pretty much exactly what any member of Stan's family would say having read some of the idiotic name calling on this board . Perhaps those on here who actually HATE Stan Ternent don't have enough to worry about in every day life?
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Post by wonderousworthy on Oct 20, 2008 22:59:56 GMT 1
most importantly WHY do they hate Stan?
Given recent managers W*nksworth, ritchie and even Jcko Stan has achieved more than any of them.
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Post by pling on Oct 20, 2008 23:01:19 GMT 1
I'm not his biggest fan, and I would also have no problem saying what I think of his job so far to his face. That being said calling him a wife beater etc is way over the top. But I doubt this letter will make many people on here change their ways.
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Post by The Real True Blue on Oct 20, 2008 23:02:09 GMT 1
Chris, i apologise for any offence caused.
I know what your Dad did at Burnley and Bury and i'll give him his dues for that. What got my back up was the way he treated Paul Ogden in the interview after the Tranmere (I think) game.
You have to admit that there was not really any need for Stan to treat him the way he did.
Once again Chris (and i can only speak for myself here) i apologise
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Post by thewrongboy on Oct 20, 2008 23:11:50 GMT 1
Well, well, well... not read anything like that on DATM! If "Stan's son" is still on, here's my advice: I'd take what you read on here with a pinch of salt. Listen mate, it's an internet thing - some people LOVE the fact they can say whatever they like about people anonymously and never have to be held account to it. It's a bit of a joke, actually. It's not just football forums, I've seen some real vile on music websites. Truly disturbin accusations. And you know what? Very few would say something so offensive (like the offensive terms you mentioned) to someone's face. Don't believe me? If it's still there, check out the quite hideous www.mickwadsworth.co.uk (which has to be seen to be believed). What I will say is this, as I'm sure you know, football fans are a fickle bunch (I include myself in that), and so the very same people who find it easy to be critical will be found singing Stan Ternent's voice in praise should this club find itself in better circumstances. Believe me, I've followed Town and subsequently read this internet forum for long enough! If you are indeed Stan's son, then good on you for posting. It's the first of it's kind, as far as I'm aware. But, please, don't take this website too seriously... people say hurtful things which, you know, if they actually took time to think about what they were writing (and which individuals might actually go on to read those comments) they would think twice about it and, being honest, would find themselves ashamed to have written them in the first place. UP THE TOWN and, as was written, KEEP THE FAITH. The Wrong Boy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 23:13:50 GMT 1
most importantly WHY do they hate Stan? Given recent managers W*nksworth, ritchie and even Jcko Stan has achieved more than any of them. Well, looks like your quite a moron as well mate after that shambles of a post. Fair enough, Wadsworth was gash, but he couldnt have been here at a worse time. But saying Stan has achieved more than jacko and ritchie, whilst being correct, is a bit of a stupid thing to say.He has been in management far longer than those two and both are only 2 promotions behind him with about 15 years in hand. Also, they had no money what so ever when in charge of town and had us playing football just as bad as ternent has managed.
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Post by The Real True Blue on Oct 20, 2008 23:14:17 GMT 1
Well, well, well... not read anything like that on DATM! If "Stan's son" is still on, here's my advice: I'd take what you read on here with a pinch of salt. Listen mate, it's an internet thing - some people LOVE the fact they can say whatever they like about people anonymously and never have to be held account to it. It's a bit of a joke, actually. It's not just football forums, I've seen some real vile on music websites. Truly disturbin accusations. And you know what? Very few would say something so offensive (like the offensive terms you mentioned) to someone's face. Don't believe me? If it's still there, check out the quite hideous www.mickwadsworth.co.uk (which has to be seen to be believed). What I will say is this, as I'm sure you know, football fans are a fickle bunch (I include myself in that), and so the very same people who find it easy to be critical will be found singing Stan Ternent's voice in praise should this club find itself in better circumstances. Believe me, I've followed Town and subsequently read this internet forum for long enough! If you are indeed Stan's son, then good on you for posting. It's the first of it's kind, as far as I'm aware. But, please, don't take this website too seriously... people say hurtful things which, you know, if they actually took time to think about what they were writing (and which individuals might actually go on to read those comments) they would think twice about it and, being honest, would find themselves ashamed to have written them in the first place. UP THE TOWN and, as was written, KEEP THE FAITH. The Wrong Boy. Which is why the post above this was written.
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Post by terrierfire on Oct 20, 2008 23:18:01 GMT 1
I'ts about time someone spoke out about all this abuse he's been getting, for starters, he's brought in almost a whole team, and yes, maybe he did sign a few too many, but how can you expect to bring in 11 players who've never played before and instantly start to expect winning 5 or 6-0?
When the players start to gel (i.e. now ingoring Bristol Rovers on Saturday) we will start winning matches and winning them well, I mean just look at Flynn's goal on Saturday, how many times did we shoot from that kind of distance last season? Somewhere near 0 I'll bet, so leave the man alone, get behind the boys and watch as we fly up the table.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 23:18:28 GMT 1
Great post. Stan has definitely convinced me he'll do a job here over the last month. As long as the fans and board give him a chance
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 20, 2008 23:19:55 GMT 1
Great post. Stan has definitely convinced me he'll do a job here over the last month. As long as the fans and board give him a chance By board, do you mean board of directors or DATM? I joke ... board of directors, clearly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2008 23:22:04 GMT 1
I'ts about time someone spoke out about all this abuse he's been getting, for starters, he's brought in almost a whole team, and yes, maybe he did sign a few too many, but how can you expect to bring in 11 players who've never played before and instantly start to expect winning 5 or 6-0? When the players start to gel (i.e. now ingoring Bristol Rovers on Saturday) we will start winning matches and winning them well, I mean just look at Flynn's goal on Saturday, how many times did we shoot from that kind of distance last season? Somewhere near 0 I'll bet, so leave the man alone, get behind the boys and watch as we fly up the table. We now shoot from outside the area ???Well done Stan, you're certainly earning that massive wedge you're taking home every week
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Post by Davey Monroe on Oct 20, 2008 23:22:33 GMT 1
Everyone will be grateful of the large squad should injuries take hold in the coming weeks! After all, how many League 1 teams have an F.A Cup winning, former England international playing in their reserves?!
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Post by thewrongboy on Oct 20, 2008 23:25:53 GMT 1
Galpharmer, any chance you could just let a *chink* of positivity in, for bloody once(?), and leave the negativity to one side? I'm politely asking you, to let some Town fans get behind the manager.
If you want to have a moan, fine... but I think there's a time for that. I'd argue this isn't it.
Before you have a go at me, I'm off to bed - so I won't read your comment (and won't actively look for it tomorrow). As I say, just a polite request. Thanks.
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Post by wonderousworthy on Oct 20, 2008 23:26:05 GMT 1
most importantly WHY do they hate Stan? Given recent managers W*nksworth, ritchie and even Jcko Stan has achieved more than any of them. Well, looks like your quite a moron as well mate after that shambles of a post. Fair enough, Wadsworth was gash, but he couldnt have been here at a worse time. But saying Stan has achieved more than jacko and ritchie, whilst being correct, is a bit of a stupid thing to say.He has been in management far longer than those two and both are only 2 promotions behind him with about 15 years in hand. Also, they had no money what so ever when in charge of town and had us playing football just as bad as ternent has managed. Well lets see if you can do a 10,000 word essay and reply to stupid posts on here! 1- Stans been here whatt 3-4 months and he is being criticised for anything and everything under the sun. If we win a game i wouldn't be suprised if people moaned about it not being a "good" enough win. 2- Stan has a 3-year-deal and after hearing an interview with Hoyle its quite obvious that although he wants to be in the play-offs this season promotion will happen after 2 seasons 3- Results are improving, how after 4 points from 6 that people are calling for his head, it is LUDICROUS. now please BACK THE MANAGER AND PLAYERS no doubt you were one of the boo boys
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Post by 190119 on Oct 20, 2008 23:26:25 GMT 1
most importantly WHY do they hate Stan? Given recent managers W*nksworth, ritchie and even Jcko Stan has achieved more than any of them. You are joking aren't you?
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Post by macgalph on Oct 20, 2008 23:45:23 GMT 1
When I met Stan in his local a couple of months ago, I saw quite a nice fellow. He spoke to us at lenght, (not about football, It was his night off). I think as every Manager who comes in to a Club that he needs our support and backing. Not our booing. He has the credentials so give him the time. Even if it is not his lad, and it is a wind up, at least he has made us think.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2008 0:34:52 GMT 1
Well lets see if you can do a 10,000 word essay and reply to stupid posts on here! 1- Stans been here whatt 3-4 months and he is being criticised for anything and everything under the sun. If we win a game i wouldn't be suprised if people moaned about it not being a "good" enough win. 2- Stan has a 3-year-deal and after hearing an interview with Hoyle its quite obvious that although he wants to be in the play-offs this season promotion will happen after 2 seasons 3- Results are improving, how after 4 points from 6 that people are calling for his head, it is LUDICROUS. now please BACK THE MANAGER AND PLAYERS no doubt you were one of the boo boys 1.Stans been here 6 months. Hes being critisised for various things-results, performances,selections, signings, conduct.. ALL of which are justified critisisms. 2.Will it? Stans performance so far has convinced you of this? Great then. Look forward to it. 3. Before Saturday you could argue performances had improved slightly from the crap being served up earlier, but results haven't really improved much. We wouldn't be in 16th place if they had. Ive never known so many pin so much hope on being able to beat Swindon, a team doomed to be in the bottom 4 this season. On Ternent Juniors post, I agree that the personal insults are unecessary though I doubt they're any worse than many other managers get on their clubs messageboards ( and probably a lot better). No one would want to read their relative being called names so Im surprised Ternent's son would ever come onto a site like DATM, especially when things aren't going well.
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Post by Dell12 on Oct 21, 2008 0:58:25 GMT 1
Fair play to his son, BUT i'm not really sure about the personal insults he's talking about? Don't get me wrong, any manager from Wadsworth to Wenger will get stick on here, I think it comes with the job. Obviously his tactics and selection with be scruitinised to the death on here (and rightly so) but I don't really think any of the 'personal' abuse is anything abouve what Jacko etc got.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2008 7:41:48 GMT 1
Galpharmer, any chance you could just let a *chink* of positivity in, for bloody once(?), and leave the negativity to one side? I'm politely asking you, to let some Town fans get behind the manager. If you want to have a moan, fine... but I think there's a time for that. I'd argue this isn't it. Before you have a go at me, I'm off to bed - so I won't read your comment (and won't actively look for it tomorrow). As I say, just a polite request. Thanks. Not really because having sat through six home games i'm yet to see us play well for longer than a 5 minute spell. Our only wins have come against Cheltenham (who were awful under their previous manager but still dicked on us first half), Swindon who look destined to go down and northampton who were one of the worst sides i've seen in a while yet that game should have finished 6-6. I'll show some positivity when i see some on the field!!!
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Post by SN0W on Oct 21, 2008 9:06:04 GMT 1
The nasty stuff is just a reflection of society and is the way people behave these days.... I don't agree with it and I don't blame you for getting riled by it, but the real spiteful stuff tends to be a minority.... and its not just your dad who gets their abuse, its every player, the management, the stewards, the radio guys, the pie sellers, the fans etc... and as for your dad getting a bit of stick from the rest of us when we don't perform, well he's the figurehead and he's well paid for the job.... don't forget a lot of posters say things on here tounge in cheek .... btw if he wants some praise then he'll get some when its due....
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Post by terracesider on Oct 21, 2008 9:39:07 GMT 1
Assuming this isn't a very good hoax - well said for sticking up for your family. Most of the rest of us on here would do exactly the same in similar circumstances....
The problem Stan faces is that, apart from having to provide INSTANT success, people think that there has to be an answer to everything, when there is no obvious answer then someone has to be to BLAME and should be "accountable" and, sadly, subject to personal abuse from all the brave warriors in cyberspace. I may be wrong but I can't remember Ian Greaves, Tom Johnston, Mick Buxton et.al. being subject to the kind of personal abuse that has been aimed at our more recent managers (even the great Jacko!!)
As consolation for your old fella just read back to some of the disgraceful remarks & comments made about our Chairman over the last two years.....You may then think that he's getting off comparatively lightly!!!
Btw he would not have been my choice - I would have prefered a younger man with far better communication skills in place, but I'll still get behind him & the team and expect - against common sense - to win promotion this season.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2008 10:21:10 GMT 1
None of the remarks about davy are disgraceful. The two things aren't comparable. Ternent isn't deliberately acting against the clubs interests like the assett stripping davy has. He deserves everything he gets and far worse. The problem ST has which is vastly different from the likes of Jacko and Ritchie, is the expectation levels that come with having a shed load of financial backing. He's right when he keeps mentioning the high expectation levels at this club but hes completely wrong when he keeps suggesting they are unrealistic.
Its not about instant success, but at the same time after 6 months in the job and after 14 competitive games and half a dozen friendlies its not unreasonable to expect HIS team to be looking like the side that kind of backing should create IMO, and not 6 places lower than last season's much maligned squad managed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2008 10:31:22 GMT 1
Its not about instant success, but at the same time after 6 months in the job and after 14 competitive games and half a dozen friendlies its not unreasonable to expect HIS team to be looking like the side that kind of backing should create IMO, and not 6 places lower than last season's much maligned squad managed. And they are improving. Much better performances against Oldham, Leicester and Swindon. Things didn't come off quite so well on Saturday but they dug in and got something out of the game. Earlier in the season we would have lost that game.
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Post by ksne on Oct 21, 2008 10:40:45 GMT 1
This has to be a wind up.If it isn`t then fair play to CT for his message.Personal abuse I don`t like but I stand by my concerns and say that I remain very firmly in not caring for his what is IMO an autocratic and at timesa rude manner. I`ve said before that IF ST is here long enough to turn things round I`ll eat my piece of humble pie and my words. p.s did young Chris write to other clubs when they didn`t care for his Dad?.
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