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Post by upthetown on Dec 16, 2007 19:37:09 GMT 1
So he's been the invisible man so far this season, makes me think what has caused this, usually at start of seasons he tends to be quite good.....then i realised. Didnt he lose his younger brother in a car crash at start of the season?
I'm not sure about you, but if this happened to me i'd probably be in a state of depression for a good while after it, and my mind certianly would not be on my job.......
Just a thought......
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Post by LordyOfTheManor on Dec 16, 2007 19:41:32 GMT 1
agree with that theory. i cant imagine what i'd do if i lost my brother. all credit to AR tho for keeping faith in him through this no doubt difficult stage of Scoffers life.
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Post by lillyterrier on Dec 16, 2007 19:41:33 GMT 1
he did lose his brother and I agree that it must be incredibly hard for him at the moment. I think Ritchie's bearing this in mind as he keeps playing him even when he's having off days. If Ritchie dropped Danny at the moment it would probably take him even longer to regain his confidence, I keep seeing glimpses of the Danny of old, just really wish he'd take a leaf out of Kamara's book!
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Post by Crosby on Dec 16, 2007 19:46:12 GMT 1
He always seems to be an easy target for the whingers. There's a guy behind me who slags Danny off during the pre-match warm-up (I ain't kidding  ). He is still young enough and good enough to make an impression at this, if not Championship, level. |
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Post by kamaraisking on Dec 16, 2007 19:46:19 GMT 1
awful loosing your brother but come on he was crap before
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Post by lillyterrier on Dec 16, 2007 19:48:05 GMT 1
I don't think he was crap before though, Danny always had the ability to change a game around and he scared defenders shitless.
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Post by LordyOfTheManor on Dec 16, 2007 19:50:57 GMT 1
to be honest he hasn't hit the heights (just like most town players) since the 2005/06 season. back then he was a magician! still remember his goal at home to bournemouth. what a beaut!
im sure he'll come good, but maybe not at town. apparently still interested in hull city left winger stuart elliott. and i if was a straight contest between elliott and schofield, elliott would certainly win.
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Post by lillyterrier on Dec 16, 2007 19:52:59 GMT 1
didn't yeovil make a cheeky offer for schofield in the summer? any idea how much they offered?
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Post by LordyOfTheManor on Dec 16, 2007 19:56:27 GMT 1
not sure to be honest. knowing town it probably was a undisclosed amount. but scoffers is out of contract at the end of the season and so is stuart elliott, but i think elliott will be leaving hull in the transfer window next month.
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Post by Crosby on Dec 16, 2007 21:15:01 GMT 1
Not sure it matters whether Elliott is going, he won't be coming here!!
Stick with Danny.
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Post by antich07 on Dec 16, 2007 21:21:02 GMT 1
Yes schofield lost his brother earlier in the season but i think if the lads not over it yet ritchie should put him on the bench for a few weeks.
We could play cadamarteri there thats if we ever see him again.
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Post by thewrongboy on Dec 16, 2007 21:48:46 GMT 1
For a start, Danny Schofield was not "crap before" - I mean, please.
This is a player with great, great potential.
As for putting him on "the bench for a few weeks", my personal feeling is that you never get over these sort of tragic events in your life.
Losing your sibling takes years and perhaps decades to come to terms with.
He could still be a Town 'great'.
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Post by LordyOfTheManor on Dec 16, 2007 21:56:45 GMT 1
Not sure it matters whether Elliott is going, he won't be coming here!! Stick with Danny. why not? staurt elliott is the better of the two players and has a great track record in this division (scored 29 goals as a left-winger a few years ago). we can create the space required to get him by letting both scoffers and brando go in january. although the best option would be not to get rid of anyone and be able to sign elliott |
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Post by upthetown on Dec 16, 2007 22:02:19 GMT 1
awful loosing your brother but come on he was crap before Not in a million years was he crap before! i rem in 06 he was our best player ocnsitently, he used to terrorise defenders, I remeber one goal specifically, cant rem who it was against but he dribbled from the left wing and scored a scorcher into the top corner. I think people react in different ways, only when people go thru it will we know how we would respond. If this is all the case thets just hope that maybe it changes his attitude on life, i.e u only get 1 shot at things, and maybe it will spur him on, no doubt the xmas period wil be extremly hard for him and thus i expect poor performances until january. |
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Post by thewrongboy on Dec 16, 2007 22:06:02 GMT 1
I also believe it might spur him on.
As for him being "crap before"... [insert bloody smiley thing which is shaking its head in disbelief... and no, I can't be arsed to look for one]
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Post by lillyterrier on Dec 16, 2007 22:16:42 GMT 1
upthe town are you talking about the goal he seemed to score from the byline? I still don't know how he got it in the net from that position. that really was Danny at his best.
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Post by upthetown on Dec 16, 2007 22:23:52 GMT 1
nope, i was talkin about the one where he dribbled it to the centre and scored.......still backs up my point more
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Post by Crosby on Dec 16, 2007 23:13:09 GMT 1
Not sure it matters whether Elliott is going, he won't be coming here!! Stick with Danny. why not? staurt elliott is the better of the two players and has a great track record in this division (scored 29 goals as a left-winger a few years ago). we can create the space required to get him by letting both scoffers and brando go in january. although the best option would be not to get rid of anyone and be able to sign elliott Hi Lord, I absolutely agree with your comments on his playing ability and the advantages/assets he would bring, but I can't see our board sanctioning the move. |
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Post by Bronx on Dec 16, 2007 23:14:39 GMT 1
I haven't been impressed by scoffer for a while now, seemed to have potential but if it's not gonna be fulfilled I think we'd be best getting rid. Ritchie obviously thinks that he's mentally stable enough to play, so it might just be that he's a bit crap after all.....
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Post by ACW on Dec 16, 2007 23:16:45 GMT 1
Firstly, losing a brother must be a terrible thing for Danny Schofield to go through. I know, my own brother died at 23 years of age.
However, despite obvious ability, he has always been inconsistent. He has always drifted in and out of games and rarely over his Town career has he put in a run of good performances. I rate Danny's ability, and he can do things no other Town player can, but he does not affect games enough. Wrong Boy talks about him as a player with potential, but how long has he been in the first team? At least 5 or 6 seasons. When is he going to realise his potential?
Personally I would love to see a player of Schofield's ability succeed, but he has been inconsistent for many seasons now and the clock is ticking. Losing his brother is a personal tragedy and we all feel for him (me, perhaps, more than most), but we must not let our sympathy cloud the issue. He produces one decent performance every half dozen games and is that enough?
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Post by hughphamism on Dec 16, 2007 23:52:32 GMT 1
I can't think of 1 game this season where he's played well.
L***s attacked down that side every time the keeper got the ball as they knew he'd be out of position. Every time Williams got the ball Scoffer was nowhere to be seen.
Whenever he receives the ball he always goes backwards instead of taking the player on.
I don't know how he's retained his place in the team.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 17, 2007 11:04:28 GMT 1
IMO Schofield had at best half a dozen performces in the year before the tragedy with his brother. He’s not young, he’ll be 28 in April. He has maybe five years left in him to fulfil his promise! We all know what a talent he is on his day, but how many other players have we said that about; Baldry, Makel, Burnett etc IMO Schofield messed us around when he signed his current contract, he took an age to sign it, two articles DS contract negotiations started (dated 21st November 2005) www.4thegame.com/club/huddersfield-town-fc/news/180566/schofield_set_to_stay/ DS contract signed (dated 8th March 2006) www.4thegame.com/club/huddersfield-town-fc/news/186652/schofield_to_pen_terriers_deal/ For now he is in the team and still has 6 months to show he deserves a new deal, the ball is really in his court IMO, if he doesn’t improve his current level of performance he deserves to be released in the summer. |
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Post by specialun on Dec 17, 2007 21:27:22 GMT 1
Got to agree with the past few comments.
I often find myself saying schofield has potential, has natural talent but then remember he is nearly 28 now.
To be honest, i think he has recovered remarkebly from his persona tragedy - unless you've been in his position i don't think anyone could imagine exactly what it is like.
But 10 minutes here, 20 minutes there are not good enough. If he is involved in play in other words, eg) defensively, his end product wouldn't be as important. Unfortunately he doesn't.
We have carried him in far too many games this season, and to be honest the past few seasons. Accrington away was dredaful, leeds away the same.
Its a shame - he has got natural talent and when on form , he's a pleasure to watch but imo his decision making ie) when to shoot, when to cross, when to pass and his movement off the ball will always limit his ability.
His best position is in a 352 behind the strikers in a free role, but he limits us on the left in a 442 and he certainly cannot play as part of a 3 in a 451/433.
He was more lively and productive against bristol in the first half but disappeared in the 2nd.
Shame.
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Post by terrierng on Dec 17, 2007 21:38:11 GMT 1
andy2 looking at yr location and the sad loss of a brother would that be scotty? apoligies if its not dont want to cause upset but he was i good mate and sadly missed.
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 17, 2007 21:51:28 GMT 1
I don't think Danny's brother died in a car crash. The story I heard was that he choked on his own vomit after a heavy night out.
After such a personal tragedy, this was always going to be a tough season for the guy,so Id like to see the club offer him another year on his contract where ,hopefully, he can show the undoubted talent he has on a more consistant frequency. If he can't after that, then we should finally give up on him and look elsewhere.
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Post by townfanjamie on Dec 17, 2007 21:56:55 GMT 1
That is true slaps.
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Post by upthetown on Dec 17, 2007 22:06:02 GMT 1
didnt here that, thought it was quoted in exmainer of car crash, i must be mistaken. Either way, it doesnt really matter. I don't think Danny's brother died in a car crash. The story I heard was that he choked on his own vomit after a heavy night out. After such a personal tragedy, this was always going to be a tough season for the guy,so Id like to see the club offer him another year on his contract where ,hopefully, he can show the undoubted talent he has on a more consistant frequency. If he can't after that, then we should finally give up on him and look elsewhere. |
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Post by Richard1986 on Dec 17, 2007 22:38:18 GMT 1
how much did we pay for him?
we signed him from bodwich something or other united was it? for a set of goal post and few match balls as i remember. and how many years service has he given this club?
I would say give him another years contract and keep faith in him
and then maybe move him on for a fee. don't see any sense in releasing him
ok he has his faults but he is a decent asset. that said if he isn't playing well enough I agree he needs to be dropped for a while regardless
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Post by LordyOfTheManor on Dec 17, 2007 22:42:37 GMT 1
how much did we pay for him? we signed him from bodwich something or other united was it? for a set of goal post and few match balls as i remember. and how many years service has he given this club? we signed him from brodsworth welfare for £2,000 back in feb 99 (i think!) i like scoffer, but like i said earlier if there was a choice between stuart elliott or scoffer, i'd choose elliott every day of the week. it's not about service to the club, because scoffer has served this club brilliantly since he's come. but elliott is the better player. however if you were to release brando... |
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Post by specialun on Dec 17, 2007 22:49:24 GMT 1
Either way, its fair to say ritchie wants a left winger - he has said as much himself.
Its then a question of schofield or brandon - whilst brandon was on top form at the start of the season, we haven't seen him at all since.
I think most would prefer brandon to go out of the two...my guess is to scunthorpe.
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