terrier67
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Post by terrier67 on Dec 20, 2007 14:23:20 GMT 1
Gomersal & Cleck actually (formerly Gomersal Boys - as Jonny and Cads knew it!)
We usually let most kids come along over the summer - "due to popular demand" to see if they like it. How many we actually take in terms of numbers of teams depends on the number of volunteers we get (hint, hint, smiley, winky thing!!)
I wonder if Futsal might be better for the younger ones - that's another FA seminar I will have to find to go on!
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Post by panasonicgeese on Dec 20, 2007 15:08:43 GMT 1
That's the thing Geese, he can kick 18 yards and beyond, but not uphill from a rut!!! It has always been commented how good he is with a ball (yeah Skip, not like his dad before you say it!!) but the problem is he tends to run rings around the 4 and 5 years old but is too small to compete fully with the 6 and 7 year olds (although he gives it a good go!!) Thus the dilema of what to do and the looking at Brazilian Soccer Schools!! As a qualified coach any other advice would be appreciated!! Hi Midge sorry for the delay as just been to a meeting no offence taken this is an interesting and enjoyable discussion. FA recommend (or is it rules I forget) that kids should play up no more than 2 years. I would really recommend the Soccer Skills School to assist in adding to his talents and maybe see if he can play up a year i.e. if he is 5 than see if he can take some part in an U6's game. That way he will find out if he likes 'proper' matches for a start off. I found that when I started my first squad of U7's some of the kids who came (and trained/played in proper matches) where playing up a year as they had followed older friends. By the time we reached U9's some started to drop back into there proper age bracket as they had friends at school playing in that team. From my experience bigger kids will win matches as they will just muscle there way through but as kids grow up skill becomes more important. We come across kids now at 7 years old I’m sure had shaved and driven themselves to a game as they were that big who just run through us and looked good but have not really developed further. So in addition to having a go at playing a year up, also work on individual skills as well as long as he is happy doing that and feels its fun not a chore. If he is small than don't worry that bigger kids will out battle him as eventually he will outskill them and be a far better player long term. Best examples I can give are Paul Scholes (world class and only 5'7") and Leon Knight (5'5" but not world class) however a very good footballer that Town would love to have in the squad. One final suggestion is to approach Huddersfield Town and tap them up for maybe a coach from them coming down and doing a session or two for your boys team. I've often chased Leeds United for stuff and have had a number of coaches do sessions for me and have received invites to go up to Thorp Arch for demonstrations etc. Leeds is my catchment area hence me not approaching Town. Long post but hopefully helpful. |
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Post by panasonicgeese on Dec 20, 2007 15:18:19 GMT 1
Gomersal & Cleck actually (formerly Gomersal Boys - as Jonny and Cads knew it!) We usually let most kids come along over the summer - "due to popular demand" to see if they like it. How many we actually take in terms of numbers of teams depends on the number of volunteers we get (hint, hint, smiley, winky thing!!) I wonder if Futsal might be better for the younger ones - that's another FA seminar I will have to find to go on! The 'Golden Age' for kids learning football is between the ages of 10 and 14 so although I don't know the age of your players terrier67 I reckon its worth a look for them. Worthy came to one of my sons presentation night and was a credit to both himslef and the club. He came with a few mates (none town players) and although chatted to them he was always ready and available for kids and parents to chat to. That had a huge impression on both my kids and they have met players such as Roy Keane and Paul Scholes so he is in with good company. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Dec 20, 2007 15:18:43 GMT 1
I nearly spat out my clementine when I read that!!!! 410,934 sq km - Sweden 241,590 sq km - United Kingdom Need more geography lessons methinks! UK is a relatively small country, it's just that people think it is bigger than it actually is! I meant in terms of population fella not land mass - otherwise no wonder Australia is a lot better than us at sport  Just wikipedia'd it and not 10 times but Sweden 9m pop England 50m pop Yet Sweden's football team always give us a game. They've produced a lot more better Tennis players down the years and now they're churning out some top golfers They punch massively above their weight IMO despite having all the same disadvantages we like ti roll out to explain our lack of sporting success; dark winters, cold North Europe climate, western economy and what that entails, kids playing Playstation rather than outdoor sports etc |
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Post by terrier67 on Dec 20, 2007 15:25:58 GMT 1
Cheers PG - we run from 6's to 18's so it's bound to help some of them. Will get more info on futsal.
Jon's a good lad - and supports local footy. But it's good to hear others think so too.
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Post by midge on Dec 20, 2007 15:37:51 GMT 1
No problem mate, thanks for the suggestions!!!
I understand your 2 year point, the problem being as i've said that the under 6's (which have now disbanded!!) wasn't a challenge for him as, without being patronising, it was full of 'starter' kids. You know the one's who don't even know how to kick a ball or which way to kick it when they are playing!!!
With going to 'Socatots' he had done all that so it wasn't stretching him.
As I said he has been training with the under 7's who he can compete with to an extent, but who are obviously more advanced in their physical form than him.
It just seems that I'll have to wait until kids his age have 'caught up' but at the same time it seems the advantage he got from 'Socatots' will be wasted!!
Like you say, and from what I had decided the Soccer skills school seems the way forward, but he is on a waiting list!!!!
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Post by panasonicgeese on Dec 20, 2007 15:55:15 GMT 1
No problem mate, thanks for the suggestions!!! I understand your 2 year point, the problem being as i've said that the under 6's (which have now disbanded!!) wasn't a challenge for him as, without being patronising, it was full of 'starter' kids. You know the one's who don't even know how to kick a ball or which way to kick it when they are playing!!! With going to 'Socatots' he had done all that so it wasn't stretching him. As I said he has been training with the under 7's who he can compete with to an extent, but who are obviously more advanced in their physical form than him. It just seems that I'll have to wait until kids his age have 'caught up' but at the same time it seems the advantage he got from 'Socatots' will be wasted!! Like you say, and from what I had decided the Soccer skills school seems the way forward, but he is on a waiting list!!!! As I said previous, playing up won't do him any harm. If he enjoys playing at that age group than he should be given a chance. Results are not important at that age regardless of what anyone thinks, its just about having fun. I remember some U7's matches my team had played and they had no idea nor cared if they had won or lost, what was important to them was that they had played. If he is happy and the teams coaches are happy to accomodate than get him playing with the U7's. He may develop quicker as he will soon suss for himslef that he needs to do something different so he does not lose the ball etc to bigger players. I may stand corrected that Wayne Rooney played 2 years up for most of his Everton academy life and also Roy Keane right up to being nearly 16 was always classed as a kid to small to play pro football and most pro-scouts ignored him. I don't think either of them has done to badly. |
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Post by midge on Dec 20, 2007 17:22:34 GMT 1
'Futsal is nothing more than 5 aside and we have played that for centuries. Maybe we should play it more, I know this I was playing this twice a week for years at college, that was back when electric light first came on (sorry for the pun). '
Sorry only just noticed this quote earlier from Raybray!!!
It's when you read comments like that you know we are in trouble and it begs the question, if you know nothing about a subject, why comment!!!
Five a side = A load of blokes playing football for an hour or so passing time before they go to the pub. Usually played in a local sports centre with a size 5 fluffy green ball!!
Futsal - Yes it is a form of 5 a side but the similarities stop there!!! Futsal as it is called in many countries is played with a smaller ball with less bounce.The emphasis is on improvisation, creativity and technique. (sorry, never seen any of that at Huddersfield sports centre!!)
You can imagine Raybray being like that Brian Glover character out of 'Kes'!!!! ' I'll be Bobby Charlton!'
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