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Post by PaulDaltonFanClub on Nov 22, 2011 22:04:49 GMT 1
Though my point was simple Terrerng, seems too advanced for you so I will spell it out. Both our clubs lived well beyond thier means, ran up debts they coudnt pay,You went into admin, we all but did. You have a new chairman and havent learnt a thing, Paying way over the odds for third class footballers.Now Mr Hoyle may well have very deep pockets and get you to the so called promised land.Where tickets cost silly money, but it cant possibly last .Just ask any Blackburn fan who thought Uncle Jack would take care of them forever. Milan may or may not bank roll us up the league, but me I want clubs to only spend what they bring through the turnstiilles and half of that should be spent on kids football.Maybe then the prawn sandwiches and carllos kickaballs would piss off and we stands would be full of real fans again, who cant sleeps nights waiting for saturday ............yawn........... |
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 22, 2011 22:41:06 GMT 1
Pressure ? I think the ones cacking themselves are Wendies judging by how many we have trolling this site daily ... daily !! :  : |
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Post by pozza on Nov 22, 2011 22:47:22 GMT 1
Though my point was simple Terrerng, seems too advanced for you so I will spell it out. Both our clubs lived well beyond thier means, ran up debts they coudnt pay,You went into admin, we all but did. You have a new chairman and havent learnt a thing, Paying way over the odds for third class footballers.Now Mr Hoyle may well have very deep pockets and get you to the so called promised land.Where tickets cost silly money, but it cant possibly last .Just ask any Blackburn fan who thought Uncle Jack would take care of them forever. Milan may or may not bank roll us up the league, but me I want clubs to only spend what they bring through the turnstiilles and half of that should be spent on kids football.Maybe then the prawn sandwiches and carllos kickaballs would piss off and we stands would be full of real fans again, who cant sleeps nights waiting for saturday If you think Dean Hoyle is going to leave Town in any financial ruin then you are very much mistaken. He is investing in far more than the playing squad, something which will see us operate on a steady basis for a number of years to come |
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Post by keepmoving on Nov 22, 2011 22:51:23 GMT 1
Good point. money has ruined football. way too sanitised compared to the good old days.
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Post by OperationPig on Nov 22, 2011 23:41:01 GMT 1
Wednesday are the biggest club in this league :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: ^^^^ This guy knows^^^^^^^^^ :beer: |
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Post by OperationPig on Nov 22, 2011 23:46:29 GMT 1
Though my point was simple Terrerng, seems too advanced for you so I will spell it out. Both our clubs lived well beyond thier means, ran up debts they coudnt pay,You went into admin, we all but did. You have a new chairman and havent learnt a thing, Paying way over the odds for third class footballers.Now Mr Hoyle may well have very deep pockets and get you to the so called promised land.Where tickets cost silly money, but it cant possibly last .Just ask any Blackburn fan who thought Uncle Jack would take care of them forever. Milan may or may not bank roll us up the league, but me I want clubs to only spend what they bring through the turnstiilles and half of that should be spent on kids football.Maybe then the prawn sandwiches and carllos kickaballs would piss off and we stands would be full of real fans again, who cant sleeps nights waiting for saturday If you think Dean Hoyle is going to leave Town in any financial ruin then you are very much mistaken. He is investing in far more than the playing squad, something which will see us operate on a steady basis for a number of years to come In all seriousness mate it was just a few years ago that all the Piggie United fans were saying the very same about their lifelong Blade fan that was McCabe, but look what happened to them, never say never, anything could happen, and yes, you maybe a million time more stable then you have probably ever been but you never know what's round the corner. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 23:52:33 GMT 1
If you think Dean Hoyle is going to leave Town in any financial ruin then you are very much mistaken. He is investing in far more than the playing squad, something which will see us operate on a steady basis for a number of years to come In all seriousness mate it was just a few years ago that all the Piggie United fans were saying the very same about their lifelong Blade fan that was McCabe, but look what happened to them, never say never, anything could happen, and yes, you maybe a million time more stable then you have probably ever been but you never know what's round the corner. I think the difference with us is the chairman is already planning the moves to self sufficiency. |
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Post by champ on Nov 22, 2011 23:58:17 GMT 1
Serious question, read an artical about it and got me thinking it may put you under more pressure to 'cap it off' Just a thought though. How many articles have you ever read about your own club yet I bet you don't start a thread on your forum everytime. |
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Post by OperationPig on Nov 23, 2011 0:00:57 GMT 1
In all seriousness mate it was just a few years ago that all the Piggie United fans were saying the very same about their lifelong Blade fan that was McCabe, but look what happened to them, never say never, anything could happen, and yes, you maybe a million time more stable then you have probably ever been but you never know what's round the corner. I think the difference with us is the chairman is already planning the moves to self sufficiency. Sheff United had very big ideas when they got into the Premiership, they were even going to make their kop two tier, all fell like a pack of cards. |
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Post by OperationPig on Nov 23, 2011 0:03:52 GMT 1
Serious question, read an artical about it and got me thinking it may put you under more pressure to 'cap it off' Just a thought though. How many articles have you ever read about your own club yet I bet you don't start a thread on your forum everytime. Whats that got to do with it? so what I'm in your house :hi: and go to the toilet without asking, so call me rude :  : |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 0:13:55 GMT 1
I think the difference with us is the chairman is already planning the moves to self sufficiency. Sheff United had very big ideas when they got into the Premiership, they were even going to make their kop two tier, all fell like a pack of cards. This is Huddersfield Town not Sheffield United, our chairman is called Hoyle not McCabe the fact that he made mistakes is not our concern our chairman has already outlined plans for the club to be self sufficient get that through your head. :spanka: |
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Post by SaleTerrier on Nov 23, 2011 0:53:11 GMT 1
You've argued that we're bankrolled by mr hoyle, rather than spending within our means, and we haven't learnt our lesson, yet in the same post your saying mandaric may bankroll your club through the league? Surely, you've not learnt your lesson either? I think we're in a position where we have to be bankrolled, before it is too late. I'd suggest you're in this position too.
The fact is, football is all about money. The only way anyone is ever going to break into the top of the premiership is through money (see man city), teams with lack of investment will sit in the middle (see everton, aston villa, etc) and then the bottom teams will yoyo (see west brom, birmingham etc) the point is, football has long since been about passion, its all about where the money is. This is starting to spread into the lower leagues. The teams who spend big (charlton, town) are the ones who will move up, lack of investment will see the club going backwards. when the money runs out, teams will drop and fall into season after season of lower league mid table nothingness, or even worse out of existence. The way things are goin/, clubs will rise and fall just as quickly, with the only times clubs progress is when money is heavily invested, with more and more clubs falling out of existence when owners lose interest.
As for us, I've no doubt hoyle will turn us into a championship outfit in a sound financial position. I'd much rather we supported ourself and gained promotion to the prem through merit not money. Yoyo between the leagues, rather than spending way over our means and come crashing down.
Maybe it would be best for the premiership to fuck off into its own league. Then The football league can revert back to football where players care about their club, they play like it matters, rather than looking for thebiggest pay slip. Then maybe football can get back to being an entertainment, and not a business.
(I fell asleep halfway through this, hope it makes sense - and doesn't send you to sleep)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 1:23:18 GMT 1
With all due respect to the Wednesday fans on here I can't help but think you're just a shade jealous of what we have in our chairman (a genuine boyhood fan)...
I've no ill will to your club but when comparing Chairmen do you think Milan will see this as a long term business strategy (ie 5-7 year business plan as Dean Hoyle probably does), or is he just focused on buying your debt for a quid, making some shrewd acquisitions good enough to get you into a higher league, sell your best players, pocket the additional TV money that the championship will bring and then leave you in another down-cycle?
Pretty much what I'm expecting Ken Bates to do over at Leeds...
Whatever happens at Town it won't be for a lack of trying, nor will it be shameless asset stripping when the time is right...
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Post by OperationPig on Nov 23, 2011 3:06:32 GMT 1
With all due respect to the Wednesday fans on here I can't help but think you're just a shade jealous of what we have in our chairman (a genuine boyhood fan)... I've no ill will to your club but when comparing Chairmen do you think Milan will see this as a long term business strategy (ie 5-7 year business plan as Dean Hoyle probably does), or is he just focused on buying your debt for a quid, making some shrewd acquisitions good enough to get you into a higher league, sell your best players, pocket the additional TV money that the championship will bring and then leave you in another down-cycle? Pretty much what I'm expecting Ken Bates to do over at Leeds... Whatever happens at Town it won't be for a lack of trying, nor will it be shameless asset stripping when the time is right... Don't be stupid, we all know Milan isn't in it for the long haul, but after ten years of absolute turmoil he rescued us from administration possibly even worse, yes it's nice that you have a decent chairman/fan, but why should we be jealous? what have you achieved under him to make us so jealous? We are now debt free and are in a solid financial state should a billionaire want to take over from Milan. This wasn't possible before. |
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Post by skiptonterrier on Nov 23, 2011 8:10:34 GMT 1
In answer to original question no. is Megson under pressure? Sounds like it to me! Think you and your boys are under pressure and starting to crack
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Post by terrierng on Nov 23, 2011 9:03:55 GMT 1
Though my point was simple Terrerng, seems too advanced for you so I will spell it out. Both our clubs lived well beyond thier means, ran up debts they coudnt pay,You went into admin, we all but did. You have a new chairman and havent learnt a thing, Paying way over the odds for third class footballers.Now Mr Hoyle may well have very deep pockets and get you to the so called promised land.Where tickets cost silly money, but it cant possibly last .Just ask any Blackburn fan who thought Uncle Jack would take care of them forever. Milan may or may not bank roll us up the league, but me I want clubs to only spend what they bring through the turnstiilles and half of that should be spent on kids football.Maybe then the prawn sandwiches and carllos kickaballs would piss off and we stands would be full of real fans again, who cant sleeps nights waiting for saturday and we could all live happily ever after....... i see what you mean but those days are gone,never coming back,fans will always get fleeced,clubs will always live beyond their means thanks to the prem league.....which you were a founder member of....what goes around comes around,if clubs like you wernt so greedy back then it would still be a level playing field,more than 3 clubss could win the league,clubs might take the fa cup seriously,the champions league would be for champions......before you start of on your crusade remember who sold out. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 10:13:14 GMT 1
With all due respect to the Wednesday fans on here I can't help but think you're just a shade jealous of what we have in our chairman (a genuine boyhood fan)... I've no ill will to your club but when comparing Chairmen do you think Milan will see this as a long term business strategy (ie 5-7 year business plan as Dean Hoyle probably does), or is he just focused on buying your debt for a quid, making some shrewd acquisitions good enough to get you into a higher league, sell your best players, pocket the additional TV money that the championship will bring and then leave you in another down-cycle? Pretty much what I'm expecting Ken Bates to do over at Leeds... Whatever happens at Town it won't be for a lack of trying, nor will it be shameless asset stripping when the time is right... Don't be stupid, we all know Milan isn't in it for the long haul, but after ten years of absolute turmoil he rescued us from administration possibly even worse, yes it's nice that you have a decent chairman/fan, but why should we be jealous? what have you achieved under him to make us so jealous? [glow=red,2,300]We are now debt free and are in a solid financial state should a billionaire want to take over from Milan.[/glow]This wasn't possible before. So a billionaire investor will be interested after Milan has asset stripped you then? I don't normally bite with opposition fans, but unlike Netherton Owl who makes some good points you really need to give your head a shake if you think Mandric is going to leave your club in a better place... |
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Post by Richard1986 on Nov 23, 2011 10:38:22 GMT 1
Are Huddersfield under pressure to win L1 title? With their record breaking season surly it has to be sealed with Town winning the title or else no one will really remember this season as Huddersfelds record breaking season. Just a thought. ihopeyoudieinahousefireinrl Just a thought. |
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Post by terrier17 on Nov 23, 2011 10:45:55 GMT 1
where are Wednesday going to get there goals from now madine is out for 6 weeks? Instead of coming on here doubting our chances, concentrate on your club because if anyone will fade out over the season its you!
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Post by keepmoving on Nov 23, 2011 10:53:56 GMT 1
We are now debt free and are in a solid financial state should a billionaire want to take over from Milan.This wasn't possible before. : : Asset strippers dont leave things better when they depart. He'll have made his money from your assets which will suddenly appear to be no longer yours anymore. Which billionaire with a brain would want to buy a club in sheffield languishing in the third division, whose assets have been re-evaluated (cough) anyway? |
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Post by nethertonowl on Nov 23, 2011 22:40:56 GMT 1
Madine has missed the last three and a half games, (three away from Home) we`ve scored 6 goals.We have cover dont worry we will be second in the league come monday night.
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Post by PaulDaltonFanClub on Nov 23, 2011 22:49:35 GMT 1
This thread is utter nonsense! :  : |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 23, 2011 23:09:35 GMT 1
Madine has missed the last three and a half games, (three away from Home) we`ve scored 6 goals.We have cover dont worry we will be second in the league come monday night. :appl: :spanka: |
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Post by fredcarno on Nov 23, 2011 23:12:25 GMT 1
Surely there is more pressure on Wednesday to us. They are the biggest club in this league by a mile and clearly have the best squad by a mile. We will fall away badly after Christmas like we always do anyway.
Well at least according to their forum.
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Post by King Curtis on Nov 23, 2011 23:19:10 GMT 1
They won't have an easy game against Orient. The O's are unbeaten in 10 games.
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Post by griffa on Nov 24, 2011 0:41:47 GMT 1
Madine has missed the last three and a half games, (three away from Home) we`ve scored 6 goals.We have cover dont worry we will be second in the league come monday night. Orient unbeaten in 10 games - more importantly where will you be in May 2012, I suspect 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th & Megson sacked & Milan in jail - happy days! Just another disappointing season in the "Decline of the Wendies Empire." - UTT. |
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Post by thenuggett on Nov 24, 2011 9:25:04 GMT 1
Its a fair question from operation pig.. Town are under pressure to go up. Personally I am pleased how we have bounced back following the shocker at OT. Charlton are flying at the moment and Weds are grinding out results. The win at Tranmere was a good one and a coupon buster on my part. I am sure there will be twists and turns before the New Year .
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Post by skiptonterrier on Nov 24, 2011 10:43:38 GMT 1
I think Megson must be under pressure knowing if he dont get you up what the chairman is likely to do!
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Post by dessie on Nov 24, 2011 10:57:43 GMT 1
I think Megson must be under pressure knowing if he dont get you up what the chairman is likely to do! That's fair comment to be honest. Megson's made his position very clear with his team selection in both League Cup & JPT - he's got to win promotion or he's a gonner. No flattering to deceive in either of those competition is going to save his job so why risk key players trying to do so? Surely Dean Hoyle, no matter how loyal he is to Clark must reach a point where, if you fail to get up again, be tempted to try something new? |
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Post by Fullisheight on Nov 24, 2011 11:06:39 GMT 1
Don't be stupid, we all know ................... We are now debt free and are in a solid financial state should a billionaire want to take over from Milan. This wasn't possible before. Apologies for calling you a dullard. I was wrong, you're a rude, deluded arrogant prick........................by the way I'm a Russian Oligarch looking to invest billions of dollars into a football club, if you know any MUUHASSIVE clubs that are currently being asset stripped.....I mean have recently become debt free can you let me have their bank details...... |
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