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Post by gymmers on Aug 18, 2011 6:15:01 GMT 1
Trust GroveR to end this thread on a high note (that'd look good on my landing wall)
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Post by ab on Oct 18, 2011 11:04:03 GMT 1
The Court of Appeal has just published its judgment on the first set of appeals against sentence by the poor lambs who were involved in the riots. www.judiciary.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/5299518C-5C4B-43B0-B22D-0EF69DA06124/0/rvblackshawothers.pdfIt doesn't make for happy reading for brispie. "That leads us to address the suggestion that perhaps this level of public disorder should be treated as “mindless” activity. It was undoubtedly stupid and irresponsible and dangerous. However none of these appeals involves children or young offenders (where different sentencing considerations arise) nor indeed offenders with significant mental health problems. None of the offenders before us was “mindless”. The actions were deliberate, and each knew exactly what he (and in one case, she) was doing."
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Post by brispie on Oct 19, 2011 13:12:00 GMT 1
If you think I'm reading that you can fuck off!
I never said they were mindless. The exact opposite. I still say they are being way too heavy handed, but that's the fucking judiciary for you isn't it.
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Post by ab on Oct 19, 2011 14:13:13 GMT 1
It's only about 20 pages, in numbered paragraphs and sections so you can skim the bits that don't interest you. They kept the facebook twats sentences and those for burglary, halved all the handling sentences (ie the ones who picked up stuff they found).
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brispie
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Post by brispie on Oct 19, 2011 14:57:33 GMT 1
I still think the Facebook twats were hard done by. I think they were just twats. Liam Fox has just been a twat, but he's not going down for 5 years for it.
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Post by Bernie on Oct 19, 2011 15:06:04 GMT 1
I agree with Bry-spee here, you know. Posting stuff on a website should pretty much never involve a prison sentence*.
*Unless it's pictures of you murdering someone or child-filth or something equally mental.
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Post by ab on Oct 19, 2011 15:38:03 GMT 1
They only got 4 years - I can't imagine there'll be many other mongs (in the Gervaisian sense) trying such funny japes in the future. One of them couldn't be bothered to turn up to the Court of Appeal even though they gave him the opportunity to give evidence (the Court of Appeal very rarely hears new live evidence from defendants and usually decides on the basis of the documents).
Although in broader terms I agree that it is a dangerous place if being a twat on the internet is a crime. cf Twitterjoketrial
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brispie
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Post by brispie on Oct 19, 2011 16:18:39 GMT 1
ONLY 4 years. ONLY!
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