gymmers
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Post by gymmers on Jul 5, 2011 9:47:35 GMT 1
Potentially.... Could the NOW hacker of Milly Dowlers phone be an accessory to murder as the mens rea was present or would it just be pervert the course as there was no direct association to the actus reus?
If it was discovered that the hacker provided information to Bellfields defence, what would the position be?
In respect of the defence cross questioning of Milly's dad, does the fact that a man watches porn warrant due interrogation or is interweb porn surfing normal unless it is a sexual snuff vid or summat?
So many questions that are spoiling my holiday and causing arguments
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owlie
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Post by owlie on Jul 5, 2011 12:10:02 GMT 1
You shouldn't be arguing about internet porn on holiday.
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Post by markelt on Jul 5, 2011 13:33:36 GMT 1
Men watching porn on the internet? Whatever next?
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Post by gymmers on Jul 5, 2011 14:09:08 GMT 1
Watching porn is normal. He was watching porn that wasn't necessarily 'questionable' in terms of content... So was examination of his porn surfing habits a legitimate line on cross questioning? I think not
I want to stick a fork in Rebekka Wade's eye
Facty facty facty
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Post by brispie on Jul 5, 2011 14:22:54 GMT 1
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merkin
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 8:33:32 GMT 1
Fucking brilliant.
Paying the police of as well. Superb.
Not sure what the big deal is, only like CCTV.
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Post by GroveR on Jul 6, 2011 8:53:46 GMT 1
I want to stick a fork in Rebekka Wade's eye get in the queue sweetcheeks Rebekah Brooks - For She kicked the fuck out of Grant Mitchell Rebekah Brooks - Against She's a c*** that pretty much seals the deal for me but don't say anything to willbur as he likes gongarians.
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 9:15:02 GMT 1
Fucking brilliant. Paying the police of as well. Superb. Not sure what the big deal is, only like CCTV. Unlike history, you repeat yourself first as comedy, then as tragedy.
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 9:17:02 GMT 1
I want to stick a fork in Rebekka Wade's eye get in the queue sweetcheeks Rebekah Brooks - For She kicked the fuck out of Grant Mitchell Rebekah Brooks - Against She's a c*** that pretty much seals the deal for me but don't say anything to willbur as he likes gongarians. I originally thought Wilbur's thing was an expression of repressed sexual yearning for MikR's smelly box. It seems more like a Harry Potter thing now, what with his boy wizard glasses and love for the Ginny Weasley of newspapers.
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merkin
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 9:25:10 GMT 1
Dry your eyes.
the public reaction is what makes you most sick
they couldn't give a fuck when its a footballer or a celebrity - the minute it's some dead kid we have this OTT fake reaction.
Nobody gives a fuck, not really.
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 9:26:49 GMT 1
Don't be an idiot.
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merkin
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 9:28:49 GMT 1
we will see
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 9:38:53 GMT 1
if i'm so wrong and such an idiot, when did Ford pull out?
After Sienna Miller, after Andy Gray...
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 9:48:29 GMT 1
You're an idiot because it's obvioulsy not a fake reaction. Unlike what you're doing which is just desperate
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Post by GroveR on Jul 6, 2011 9:58:09 GMT 1
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 10:26:16 GMT 1
just like a Scouse reaction..the rest of the hypocritical country is catching on.
lets the see the expense, fiddling c**** in Parliament debate the issue as well.
let's see what happens to the readership of the No1 Sunday newspaper.
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Post by brispie on Jul 6, 2011 10:36:46 GMT 1
Hey Merk, you're exactly like that journo for the torygraph. Try to say something controversial only to make yourself look like a prick. But you're used to it aren't you?
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owlie
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Post by owlie on Jul 6, 2011 11:20:05 GMT 1
Merk has a good point about the reader numbers. They won't sell one fewer copy this week due to the make up of the target market.
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 11:25:03 GMT 1
I'm not saying anything controversial.
Clearly it's wrong and against the law. I find it amazing how far they have taken and can't help but finding it amusing in my own sick and cynical way.
Equally, it abhors me how offensive it now is because it's dead kids and not not actor slags, sexist football fundits or chef pricks.
It makes me hate Joe Public, police and MPs far more than journocunts.
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 11:32:01 GMT 1
You're an idiot
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merkin
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 11:34:30 GMT 1
good argument with sound logic
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Post by turtle on Jul 6, 2011 11:35:19 GMT 1
I'm not saying anything controversial either.
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 11:51:12 GMT 1
:appl: good argument with sound logic I could argue with you, but what would be the point? Either you believe that a commercial orgainsation looking to profit by hacking into the phone of a missing child while people are still looking for her is 'just like CCTV' in which case you're an idiot. Or you don't believe it and are just saying it for effect in which case you're an idiot. The argument that some people have a hypocritical standpoint can be dismissed with two words. Well, duh.
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brispie
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Post by brispie on Jul 6, 2011 12:42:04 GMT 1
There's also a big difference between hacking a celebs phone to get the latest gossip and a missing childs phone and deleting messages therefore messing with the police inquiry.
They are both wrong of course, but one makes it far easier for the general public to realise that phone hacking is wrong.
Owlie - I'd be very surprised if the readership of NotW remains at it's level of last Sunday. You're right though, it probably won't be decimated as it should be.
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 12:42:33 GMT 1
That's better.
I'll downgrade my 'just like' to 'similar too'.
The 'Well Duh' is a shit retort that I can take nothing from and so I will stick with my 'one rule for celebs, another for dead kids' argument.
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Post by GlasgowTangerine on Jul 6, 2011 12:52:11 GMT 1
Brispie pretty much just took the words right out my mouth.
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owlie
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Post by owlie on Jul 6, 2011 13:00:42 GMT 1
Owlie - I'd be very surprised if the readership of NotW remains at it's level of last Sunday. You're right though, it probably won't be decimated as it should be. I refer you to Botzarelli's first law.
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 13:04:22 GMT 1
Merk
Just give it a rest.
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merkin
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Post by merkin on Jul 6, 2011 13:12:05 GMT 1
again, well done on a solid and well thought out retort
there is clearly such a plethora of other topics to talk about on here.
i'll leave you to it
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Post by markelt on Jul 6, 2011 13:19:33 GMT 1
I don't think anything can ever now surpass 'one rule for celebs, another for dead kids' as an argument for anything
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