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Post by brispie on Jul 20, 2011 12:22:41 GMT 1
councillors cause the most money wasting you could ever image. When you then tell them that the piece of research they wanted carried out for a small element of one public query actually cost 10k they are gobsmacked.
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Post by ab on Jul 20, 2011 13:44:55 GMT 1
Ah those pesky politicians. Who needs democratic oversight of angelic public servants?
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Post by Bernie on Jul 20, 2011 15:00:27 GMT 1
10k for a few hours on the internet?!
Dennis Nilson was a public servant as I recall. Mind you, he was also in the Met for a while.
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Post by brispie on Jul 21, 2011 10:07:25 GMT 1
It's changing their mind that hurts the most. 3 major transport schemes for Bristol go to cabinet today. If they throw them out that's 5 years of work and millions of pounds of taxpayers money up the swanny.
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Post by ab on Jul 21, 2011 11:52:27 GMT 1
Better than throwing good money after bad.
We need denbers and his harsh but fair party.
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Post by brispie on Jul 21, 2011 12:51:17 GMT 1
The trouble is that these schemes have been shown to be the the first step to providing Bristol with an integrated transport network, but the local media have dubbed them bendy buses and taken a more negative view, so all the local naysayers think it's rubbish.
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Post by owlie on Jul 21, 2011 13:46:38 GMT 1
What is wrong with bendy busses? They had them in Sheffield 20 years ago.
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Post by ab on Jul 21, 2011 14:45:40 GMT 1
Perhaps brispie, the Council should have spent more on PR and schmoozing with the local press... Just for you, my thoughts on killing off HS2 wp.me/p1kusD-2u
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Post by Bernie on Jul 21, 2011 14:48:05 GMT 1
Bendy busses ROCK BELLS. Though I'm not sure how a bus route is an "integrated transport network", surely you just stick 'em on the existing routes (and roads).
Malmö is full of bent busses. And we got an underground now, too. Which is frankly mad for a city of < 300,000 inhabitants, but it was partly funded by the EU and gives our insane, Jew-hating Estonian nutcase mayor even more reasons to big himself up as his fiefdom descends into a nightmare of targeted bombings and slightly less targeted shootings.
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Post by ab on Jul 21, 2011 14:53:09 GMT 1
I hope they remembered to put up the requisite notices all round the network saying the underground was part-funded by the EU. Otherwise they'll have nasty big fines to pay.
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Post by Bernie on Jul 21, 2011 15:04:11 GMT 1
Of course they did. How they hell would I have known otherwise? I'm not the sort to go trawling through the kommun's expenditure. Although it could be a laugh - especially if it turns up loads of receipts for Zyklon-B, jackboots and friendly exchange visits from Hamas. (That last one would actually be there, and I ain't joking)
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Post by brispie on Jul 21, 2011 15:39:24 GMT 1
Bendy buses on guided busways is the way forward. There will be one to take you straight to the new shiny City ground in 9 minutes from central Bristol. Allegedly. That's if my funding options get through.
I'm not sure on HS2. I have no issue with building through swathes of the home counties, but is it really worth it?
And it's strange you should talk about forward PR. I've just been in a meeting about that as it really is something that local authorities are rubbish at.
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Post by owlie on Jul 21, 2011 22:59:33 GMT 1
Bendy busses on guides? They've got them in Sheffield too. They call them 'trams'.
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Post by brispie on Jul 22, 2011 8:57:26 GMT 1
Building 1 tramline = £450 million Building 1 bendy bus guided route = £40 million.
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Post by owlie on Jul 22, 2011 9:24:40 GMT 1
Sounds like an easy decision really.
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Post by oldhamsheridan on Jul 22, 2011 9:27:44 GMT 1
How much is a monorail?
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Post by brispie on Jul 22, 2011 9:45:54 GMT 1
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Post by Bernie on Jul 22, 2011 11:32:25 GMT 1
What in the name of Anthea Turner's musty snatch is a "guided bus route"? A route for open topped bus tours? Or a load of street signs, costing 40 million quid?
MONORAIL!!
(route/root stupidity edit)
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Post by fgrfc_dan on Jul 22, 2011 12:13:39 GMT 1
It's a bus lane with short concrete walls on either side. Small wheels on the side of the bus push against the walls to guide the bus. I have no idea why because there's still a driver and they seem to manage perfectly well at steering the things on the non-guided routes.
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Post by brispie on Jul 22, 2011 12:42:04 GMT 1
So they can go faster apparently.
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Post by Bernie on Jul 22, 2011 13:47:59 GMT 1
Thankyou Dan. Wouldn't it be cheaper to build a bus lane? It's not like they're ever going to do more than 30 mph in town anyway.
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Post by fgrfc_dan on Jul 22, 2011 15:07:30 GMT 1
The major advantage over a bus lane so far as I can tell is that selfish c**** can't park in it.
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