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Post by lochnessterrier on Jul 27, 2014 7:48:16 GMT 1
I came across an article about Marcus Stewart and all the pain came flooding back. Described as "a depreciating asset" he is sold to Ipswich and the rest is history. Second highest goalscorer in the Premier League as we tumble towards the basement. What a monumental cock up!
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 27, 2014 7:54:56 GMT 1
I remember at the time I was absolutely gobsmacked. It didn't help that I was living in Suffolk.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 27, 2014 8:01:43 GMT 1
Remember being at palace when Stewart scored twice and was close to tears as he waved goodbye. On a par if not worse than other massive cock ups..........sacking Buxton, replacing macari with Wadsworth, selling Stewart and replacing him with ruddy holland, smith and hay, some devious owner buying shares then flogging em back in a deal which saw him get every penny plus interest back! Next time we moan at the current regime, remember longbottom, fielding, rubery et al......and the messes which in certain instances took years to recover from!!!
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jul 27, 2014 12:04:29 GMT 1
Maybe the costliest mistake in Huddersfield Towns history as Town had the best team that i and so many others had witnessed since the 70s and were favourites to be promoted to the premier league until some twat thought that selling our top striker would not affect the teams performance. Sadly selling Stewart to Ipswich was the beginning of the end as Town slumped badly thus failing even to make the play offs that season and what made matters worse was the fact that Ipswich took Towns place and were promoted plus Stewarts goals played a major part in that towards the end of that season. What made matter even worse was the fact that this failing had a knock on effect on the club which eventually saw Town slide down the leagues after Steve Bruce departed to Birmingham and a sad matter involving a past Chairman called ( shit face Rubery ) had a massive knock on effect of seeing Town eventually going the into administration which resulted in that record Stewart transfer fee of £2,500,000 becoming totally worthless. What was going on behind the scenes at the time under chairman Rubery is something most will never know or understand but it was a certain very unpopular life president named Davey who put a consortium together to save the club and a genius manager called Jacko whos promotion under a skeleton staff saved the club from going into extinction and we should be in ever debt to the both and even more so now that Davey has done the decent thing by returned of the missing shares.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 27, 2014 12:33:07 GMT 1
Worst thing was he didn't want to go!
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Post by Fullisheight on Jul 27, 2014 12:46:27 GMT 1
Maybe the costliest mistake in Huddersfield Towns history as Town had the best team that i and so many others had witnessed since the 70s and were favourites to be promoted to the premier league until some twat thought that selling our top striker would not affect the teams performance. Sadly selling Stewart to Ipswich was the beginning of the end as Town slumped badly thus failing even to make the play offs that season and what made matters worse was the fact that Ipswich took Towns place and were promoted plus Stewarts goals played a major part in that towards the end of that season. What made matter even worse was the fact that this failing had a knock on effect on the club which eventually saw Town slide down the leagues after Steve Bruce departed to Birmingham and a sad matter involving a past Chairman called ( shit face Rubery ) had a massive knock on effect of seeing Town eventually going the into administration which resulted in that record Stewart transfer fee of £2,500,000 becoming totally worthless. What was going on behind the scenes at the time under chairman Rubery is something most will never know or understand but it was a certain very unpopular life president named Davey who put a consortium together to save the club and a genius manager called Jacko whos promotion under a skeleton staff saved the club from going into extinction and we should be in ever debt to the both and even more so now that Davey has made a small fortune selling the shares to Dean Hoyle Edited for accuracy sent by my TVC15 0 0
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Post by nicovaesen on Jul 27, 2014 18:33:12 GMT 1
My favourite ever town striker. I always thought we could get something from a game no matter who we were playing with him on the team sheet. Could turn a game it's head in a matter of seconds!!
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 27, 2014 19:11:49 GMT 1
I have to turn the radio off every time I hear Ian Ayre interviewed about his beloved victimpool.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Jul 27, 2014 19:12:22 GMT 1
On his left foot in the penalty area there was only one outcome .... GOAL!
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2014 21:48:32 GMT 1
If there was ever a more stupid decision in football than the one to sell Marcus Stewart when we did, for how much we did, to the club we sold him to - then I would love to know what it was.
I suppose it'd be a bit like if Burnley had let Ings go for a song to QPR in Feb last season.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 28, 2014 0:13:13 GMT 1
If there was ever a more stupid decision in football than the one to sell Marcus Stewart when we did, for how much we did, to the club we sold him to - then I would love to know what it was. I suppose it'd be a bit like if Burnley had let Ings go for a song to QPR in Feb last season. I've got quite a few Ipswich supporting mates who were almost as equally stunned as us when they got Stewart. Then they were gobsmacked when we got Rhodes from them so they believe we are all square - at least financially. Stewart was a remarkable player. Not the fastest by a long way and not the physical specimen we crave now. He just had something remarkable in his football brain that got him in to space and just about the best finisher I've seen. You could say similar things about Rhodes but somehow I feel Stewart was far superior. Shows how good Frank Worthington was - better than both!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 1:30:35 GMT 1
Yeah that killed us. Took us 13 years to recover. Stewie was a magic player, a joy to watch and our team then was terrific all round to watch and got results.
I for one am greatful today for a stable club and team with some cracking players and responsible owner with the clubs best interests at heart.
If we could only get more fans believing that then we really would be getting somewhere.
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Post by Acetripper on Jul 28, 2014 9:05:30 GMT 1
Marcus who?...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 9:59:40 GMT 1
To be fair, our season started to unravel after a home defeat to Charlton just after xmas. Key players such as Kenny Irons, Chris Beech, Ben Thornley, Jamie Vincent and EVERY centre half on the books got injured. I remember Bruce saying that he was contemplating playing himself because it was that bad on the injury front. Oddly hardly any of the players who'd looked so good against Liverpool in the cup a few weeks earlier ever recovered.
Even had we have kept Stewart I don't think we'd have gone up that season, him leaving was just the icing on the cake of a season that started to fall apart just after xmas.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 28, 2014 11:13:56 GMT 1
To be fair, our season started to unravel after a home defeat to Charlton just after xmas. Key players such as Kenny Irons, Chris Beech, Ben Thornley, Jamie Vincent and EVERY centre half on the books got injured. I remember Bruce saying that he was contemplating playing himself because it was that bad on the injury front. Oddly hardly any of the players who'd looked so good against Liverpool in the cup a few weeks earlier ever recovered. Even had we have kept Stewart I don't think we'd have gone up that season, him leaving was just the icing on the cake of a season that started to fall apart just after xmas. I think you are probably right regarding auto's but I'm sure we'd have made the play-offs so you never know.
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Post by AndySk on Jul 28, 2014 11:22:05 GMT 1
He was unlucky against us in the play off final in '95. Ran the show that day.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 11:34:57 GMT 1
To be fair, our season started to unravel after a home defeat to Charlton just after xmas. Key players such as Kenny Irons, Chris Beech, Ben Thornley, Jamie Vincent and EVERY centre half on the books got injured. I remember Bruce saying that he was contemplating playing himself because it was that bad on the injury front. Oddly hardly any of the players who'd looked so good against Liverpool in the cup a few weeks earlier ever recovered. Even had we have kept Stewart I don't think we'd have gone up that season, him leaving was just the icing on the cake of a season that started to fall apart just after xmas. I think you are probably right regarding auto's but I'm sure we'd have made the play-offs so you never know. Maybe. But you look at that side that played at Fulham and it was decimated. Vincent playing with his ribs stitched together, no Monkou.. Thomas Heary having to play. I think we'd have taken a pummeling had we reached the playoffs, Stewart or not. 2 wins in our last 7 was a bit gash... Smith oddly started quite well with 4 in 4. The rest of the side just fell apart...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 11:50:03 GMT 1
dont know what it is about the xmas period /just after with town ,in the years ive been watching that seems to be the most common time that town have their collapses
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Post by AndySk on Jul 28, 2014 11:55:32 GMT 1
I think you are probably right regarding auto's but I'm sure we'd have made the play-offs so you never know. Maybe. But you look at that side that played at Fulham and it was decimated. Vincent playing with his ribs stitched together, no Monkou.. Thomas Heary having to play. I think we'd have taken a pummeling had we reached the playoffs, Stewart or not. 2 wins in our last 7 was a bit gash... Smith oddly started quite well with 4 in 4. The rest of the side just fell apart... Smith was a very good player. Not Stewie class (obviously) but decent all the same. Surprised it all kinda went downhill for him after leaving us. We would never have gone up in the play offs that year. That Fulham loss spared us more play off misery
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Post by andy112 on Jul 28, 2014 12:04:34 GMT 1
Yeah that killed us. Took us 13 years to recover. Have we recovered?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 13:29:50 GMT 1
Maybe. But you look at that side that played at Fulham and it was decimated. Vincent playing with his ribs stitched together, no Monkou.. Thomas Heary having to play. I think we'd have taken a pummeling had we reached the playoffs, Stewart or not. 2 wins in our last 7 was a bit gash... Smith oddly started quite well with 4 in 4. The rest of the side just fell apart... Smith was a very good player. Not Stewie class (obviously) but decent all the same. Surprised it all kinda went downhill for him after leaving us. We would never have gone up in the play offs that year. That Fulham loss spared us more play off misery Think Smith was shot to pieces when he came back... Didn't he have about 18 months out injured or something stupid? Wasn't half as quick or able to get away from his man. Was quite decent playing behind the front 2 though in his last season with us though. Went to Northampton for the cash and spent his time on the treatment table, always a shame when a promising career goes that way as he started getting injured at Sunderland...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 16:39:57 GMT 1
Yeah that killed us. Took us 13 years to recover. Have we recovered? Hmmm I thought that as I wrote that Andy. I think we have a decent/improving championship squad today but not as competitive as that season certainly. That's as much due to how much the game has moved in the last decade with the injection of tv money.
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Post by andy112 on Jul 28, 2014 17:02:14 GMT 1
Hmmm I thought that as I wrote that Andy. I think we have a decent/improving championship squad today but not as competitive as that season certainly. That's as much due to how much the game has moved in the last decade with the injection of tv money. That's what made me ask the question. It's an important point you make about TV money, because to be a team who are favourites for promotion sitting proudly atop the Championship (as we were) I think is still a very long way off - we never even managed that honour in League One! Instead, when we're what I'd consider to be "comfortably" a Championship side where we're looking upwards rather than below us, then I'd say the recovery is complete.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 28, 2014 17:36:22 GMT 1
I think you are probably right regarding auto's but I'm sure we'd have made the play-offs so you never know. Maybe. But you look at that side that played at Fulham and it was decimated. Vincent playing with his ribs stitched together, no Monkou.. Thomas Heary having to play. I think we'd have taken a pummeling had we reached the playoffs, Stewart or not. 2 wins in our last 7 was a bit gash... Smith oddly started quite well with 4 in 4. The rest of the side just fell apart... The Fulham result was not at all unexpected but the penultimate one at home to Stockport was the game that we threw it away. I'm sure with Stewart in our side we would have definitely made the playoffs and then would have had a better chance in them against the likes of a weaker Ipswich but as we know in the playoffs, it is such a lottery who knows what might have happened with or without Stewart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 18:09:47 GMT 1
Maybe. But you look at that side that played at Fulham and it was decimated. Vincent playing with his ribs stitched together, no Monkou.. Thomas Heary having to play. I think we'd have taken a pummeling had we reached the playoffs, Stewart or not. 2 wins in our last 7 was a bit gash... Smith oddly started quite well with 4 in 4. The rest of the side just fell apart... The Fulham result was not at all unexpected but the penultimate one at home to Stockport was the game that we threw it away. I'm sure with Stewart in our side we would have definitely made the playoffs and then would have had a better chance in them against the likes of a weaker Ipswich but as we know in the playoffs, it is such a lottery who knows what might have happened with or without Stewart. And we think we've had it rough in the intervening years...
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Post by PellonTerrier on Jul 28, 2014 18:20:28 GMT 1
The Fulham result was not at all unexpected but the penultimate one at home to Stockport was the game that we threw it away. I'm sure with Stewart in our side we would have definitely made the playoffs and then would have had a better chance in them against the likes of a weaker Ipswich but as we know in the playoffs, it is such a lottery who knows what might have happened with or without Stewart. And we think we've had it rough in the intervening years... It seemed for years Stockport were a thorn in our side and us in theirs we had some great battles with them throughout the 90's it's a shame to see them where they are now. In fact, I don't think in my time supporting town there have been many other teams we have played where there have been so many bizarre results, important results and incident packed matches as Stockport. Bury Brentford and Barnsley are the other 3 teams that spring to mind (only been a supporter since 1990 so one of the few who wasnt there for the 10-1)
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 28, 2014 18:28:00 GMT 1
It was a very dark day in the clubs history when we sold Stewart to promotion rivals Ipswich.. £2.75m was peanuts, especially considering he very nearly got the golden boot in the premier league the following season! What a nightmare few years!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 28, 2014 18:39:12 GMT 1
Maybe. But you look at that side that played at Fulham and it was decimated. Vincent playing with his ribs stitched together, no Monkou.. Thomas Heary having to play. I think we'd have taken a pummeling had we reached the playoffs, Stewart or not. 2 wins in our last 7 was a bit gash... Smith oddly started quite well with 4 in 4. The rest of the side just fell apart... The Fulham result was not at all unexpected but the penultimate one at home to Stockport was the game that we threw it away. I'm sure with Stewart in our side we would have definitely made the playoffs and then would have had a better chance in them against the likes of a weaker Ipswich but as we know in the playoffs, it is such a lottery who knows what might have happened with or without Stewart. One of my favourite away day build-ups but my worst away game ever at Fulham!
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 28, 2014 18:43:37 GMT 1
The Fulham result was not at all unexpected but the penultimate one at home to Stockport was the game that we threw it away. I'm sure with Stewart in our side we would have definitely made the playoffs and then would have had a better chance in them against the likes of a weaker Ipswich but as we know in the playoffs, it is such a lottery who knows what might have happened with or without Stewart. One of my favourite away day build-ups but my worst away game ever at Fulham! Good job we had a great drink up before the game because it was grim afterwards. Fulham were a very decent side on the up. I guess they have been in the Premiership continuously from the season after that - until this season?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 28, 2014 18:50:15 GMT 1
One of my favourite away day build-ups but my worst away game ever at Fulham! Good job we had a great drink up before the game because it was grim afterwards. Fulham were a very decent side on the up. I guess they have been in the Premiership continuously from the season after that - until this season? All you could hear was other town fans in other beer gardens singing all round Fulham.. Scorching hot too! Didn't Louis Saha play for them that day? To be fair, we applauded their whole team off but only Dean Gorre got clapped by the thousands who made the trip.. 4k was it?
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