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Post by Porrohman on Sept 26, 2014 21:40:53 GMT 1
He always flatters to deceive for me, so many inside and out moves, no end product. Apart from all the assists ? Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by thrice on Sept 26, 2014 21:42:10 GMT 1
Please don't tell me he is AWOL because he has been dumped?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 26, 2014 21:42:21 GMT 1
Well, Frankie, hughphamism - he may well have been top creator last season, but I'd like to see the split between 1st & 2nd half of the season, 'cause I think he struggled to do it in the second half. He can cross a ball for sure (but so could Gary Roberts!) but he never ever beats a player and without a Vaughan-type player to target, you could argue he is less effective.
Isn't that another reason that we need an alternative to Vaughan?! Hammill's crosses are wasted because we don't have a target man. In truth that happens to all our wide players including the fullbacks - they get in to decent positions and look up and there is no one there!
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Post by ritchie on Sept 27, 2014 1:17:29 GMT 1
Who seriously gives a fuck it's not our business unless he crosses the line of the law. As long as he performs on the pitch that's what matters to us. None of us are saints and he isn't the first and certainly won't be the last And the likes of Lee Hughes, Marlon King etc are demonised (quite rightly) on football forums but this type of stuff is ok cause it involves shagging?? None of us are saints??? If being a saint involves respecting your missus and acting in a grown up, adult & respectful manner then I reckon MOST people on here are. King and hughes have both been convicted of criminal acts FFS dont compare that to a lad who has allegedly shagged around. something non of us should know or care about.
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Post by rantinray on Sept 27, 2014 10:11:59 GMT 1
What has his private life got to do with us? We are interested in his performances on the pitch not in the bedroom. Domestic problems for him and her to sort.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 27, 2014 10:32:52 GMT 1
Lets not have a go at the lad, we've all done it. Lmao quality post!
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Post by dfacey3 on Sept 27, 2014 10:44:59 GMT 1
And the likes of Lee Hughes, Marlon King etc are demonised (quite rightly) on football forums but this type of stuff is ok cause it involves shagging?? None of us are saints??? If being a saint involves respecting your missus and acting in a grown up, adult & respectful manner then I reckon MOST people on here are. King and hughes have both been convicted of criminal acts FFS dont compare that to a lad who has allegedly shagged around. something non of us should know or care about. did he not batter a paramedic in the line of duty. the lads a scummy little twat who thinks he can do what he wants because hes a average football player. id love to bite his fucking face off to be honest
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Post by pixie on Sept 27, 2014 11:03:38 GMT 1
King and hughes have both been convicted of criminal acts FFS dont compare that to a lad who has allegedly shagged around. something non of us should know or care about. did he not batter a paramedic in the line of duty. the lads a scummy little twat who thinks he can do what he wants because hes a average football player. id love to bite his fucking face off to be honest From what I read at the time AH had been pissed and knocked out by a bouncer, or something like that. He attacked the paramedic when he was coming round and presumably was not in full control of his faculties. After reading your last sentence I think I'd rather be in the company of AH than yourself, and you've written that while you're sober, or are you?
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Post by specialun on Sept 27, 2014 11:14:21 GMT 1
Get him in the side - one of our top 3 players (Vaughan / Wells) on his day.
We can't afford to not have him playing. I really don't get this he doesn't produce, yes not regularly as we may like but he would have jumped the sinking ship and be in the Premiership if not. See the list of assists for 2013/14 below for the Championship assists
Craig Conway Blackburn 14 Andy Reid Nottm Forest 13 Aaron Cresswell Ipswich Town 13 David Nugent Leicester City 13 Craig Bryson Derby County 12 Kieran Trippier Burnley 12 Garath McCleary Reading 11 Adam Hammill Huddersfield 10 Ross McCormack Leeds United 9 Simon Francis Bournemouth 9 Grant Leadbitter Middlesbrough 8 Ikechi Anya Watford 8 Chris Martin Derby County 8
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Post by shawsie on Sept 27, 2014 11:16:52 GMT 1
Get him in the side - one of our top 3 players (Vaughan / Wells) on his day. We can't afford to not have him playing. I really don't get this he doesn't produce, yes not regularly as we may like but he would have jumped the sinking ship and be in the Premiership if not. See the list of assists for 2013/14 below for the Championship assists Craig Conway Blackburn 14 Andy Reid Nottm Forest 13 Aaron Cresswell Ipswich Town 13 David Nugent Leicester City 13 Craig Bryson Derby County 12 Kieran Trippier Burnley 12 Garath McCleary Reading 11 Adam Hammill Huddersfield 10 Ross McCormack Leeds United 9 Simon Francis Bournemouth 9 Grant Leadbitter Middlesbrough 8 Ikechi Anya Watford 8 Chris Martin Derby County 8 How many since Xmas 2013 though?!!! Terrific talent but done the square of jack all for months now.........can anyone remember his last good game?! He ain't alone, but the great spell he had between sep-nov last year shouldn't mask a very inconsistent player who only at Barnsley has ever held down a regular place at this level.
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Post by specialun on Sept 27, 2014 11:20:57 GMT 1
Fair point Shawsie but beats 3 assists in 80 + games scannell who everyone seems to love now for 3 good runs in the last month! He also needs to be playing in his preferred position bot right wing back where he had to play most of the season.
i've said before if Scannell is the answer, what is the question.
Hammill may not get you an A* but he'll at least get you a pass
At the moment we're the equivilent of not knowing where the exam was taking place or on what day - from transfer policy, team selection, tactics!
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 27, 2014 12:32:27 GMT 1
did he not batter a paramedic in the line of duty. the lads a scummy little twat who thinks he can do what he wants because hes a average football player. id love to bite his fucking face off to be honestFrom what I read at the time AH had been pissed and knocked out by a bouncer, or something like that. He attacked the paramedic when he was coming round and presumably was not in full control of his faculties. After reading your last sentence I think I'd rather be in the company of AH than yourself, and you've written that while you're sober, or are you? And you call hammill? hardly the language of someone of high morals or intellect...pot calling the kettle methinks
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Post by huddstownonly on Sept 28, 2014 10:39:30 GMT 1
What is his injury and when is he expected to be back to match fitness ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 10:52:45 GMT 1
Hammill wouldn't have held it up like Scannell did to keep the pressure of us going in to extra time.
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Post by huddstownonly on Sept 28, 2014 10:58:22 GMT 1
Possibly not and I am not saying if he had been on the bench I would have brought him on for the last five minutes.
But my original post still applies if anyone knows exactly what the real situation with him is now ? Thanks
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Post by upthetown on Sept 28, 2014 10:59:24 GMT 1
Fair point Shawsie but beats 3 assists in 80 + games scannell who everyone seems to love now for 3 good runs in the last month! He also needs to be playing in his preferred position bot right wing back where he had to play most of the season. i've said before if Scannell is the answer, what is the question. Hammill may not get you an A* but he'll at least get you a pass At the moment we're the equivilent of not knowing where the exam was taking place or on what day - from transfer policy, team selection, tactics! Your obvious dislike for Scannell clouds your usual good judgement. This season Scannell has outperformed hammill.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 28, 2014 11:02:25 GMT 1
From what I read at the time AH had been pissed and knocked out by a bouncer, or something like that. He attacked the paramedic when he was coming round and presumably was not in full control of his faculties. After reading your last sentence I think I'd rather be in the company of AH than yourself, and you've written that while you're sober, or are you? And you call hammill? hardly the language of someone of high morals or intellect...pot calling the kettle methinks If it was upto this guy we'd have Jacko in charge and the fans would have yo dress as Masai warriors with bongo drums!! Own very own Hannibal Lecter.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 29, 2014 10:23:08 GMT 1
Hammill wouldn't have held it up like Scannell did to keep the pressure of us going in to extra time. No he'd have planted it on Holt's head for him to really relieve the pressure with goal number three.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 10:32:17 GMT 1
Hammill wouldn't have held it up like Scannell did to keep the pressure of us going in to extra time. No he'd have planted it on Holt's head for him to really relieve the pressure with goal number three. Would he bollocks haha. Have you seen Hammill play for Town since first half of last season? He would have pirouetted it into touch or a tackle and then played some pantomime hand gesture game with the linesman. Scannell took a massive amount of pressure off us in those last minutes with his strength and ability to keep the ball safe.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 29, 2014 10:43:08 GMT 1
No he'd have planted it on Holt's head for him to really relieve the pressure with goal number three. Would he bollocks haha. Have you seen Hammill play for Town since first half of last season? He would have pirouetted it into touch or a tackle and then played some pantomime hand gesture game with the linesman. Scannell took a massive amount of pressure off us in those last minutes with his strength and ability to keep the ball safe.Would it not have been better for him to use his pace, strength & trickery to better effect in trying to get goal number three? Despite his time wasting/pissing about with it in the corner, Millwall still had a decent scoring chance in the last minute of injury time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 10:52:53 GMT 1
I'm not saying he's a hero. And yes of course I'd rather have us score another goal and put the game to bed rather than time waste. But those two points in no way justify Hammill who would have A) Not put a decent cross in but pissed about and turned over possession and B) Not held the ball up well but pissed about and lost possession.
Pick one.
For a club who'd not won a home match for months across seasons I don't understand where this guaranteed cross and goal to kill the game comes from. In our current situation Scannell's cameo was exactly what was needed to see the game out.
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Post by terraceterrier on Sept 29, 2014 10:53:43 GMT 1
Would he bollocks haha. Have you seen Hammill play for Town since first half of last season? He would have pirouetted it into touch or a tackle and then played some pantomime hand gesture game with the linesman. Scannell took a massive amount of pressure off us in those last minutes with his strength and ability to keep the ball safe.Would it not have been better for him to use his pace, strength & trickery to better effect in trying to get goal number three? Despite his time wasting/pissing about with it in the corner, Millwall still had a decent scoring chance in the last minute of injury time.
Scannell's cameo was exactly what we needed to see out that game, every player is told to 'piss about' with it in that situation, cant understand your train of thought here. Agree would like to see Hammill back and involved and im not buying this a few knocks malarkey .....but in no way can anyone criticize Scanz he did his job perfectly
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 11:03:09 GMT 1
Hammill wouldn't have held it up like Scannell did to keep the pressure of us going in to extra time. If only that were all that was required of the lad - but it's not. And I like him.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 29, 2014 11:04:16 GMT 1
scannell kept the ball in the right place, right in the attacking corner. he did put in a decent cross but our two players running into the box were both fouled. Millwall had a bit of a chance near the end, rather than our usual backs to wall last 10 minutes. Its a big improvement. I like Hammill and given we now have holt in the squad , I think its an another option but if you ask Holt to run into the box time after time the ball had better start coming in more often. Hammill does have the ability to frustrate everyone.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 29, 2014 11:18:21 GMT 1
I'm not saying he's a hero. And yes of course I'd rather have us score another goal and put the game to bed rather than time waste. But those two points in no way justify Hammill who would have A) Not put a decent cross in but pissed about and turned over possession and B) Not held the ball up well but pissed about and lost possession. Pick one. For a club who'd not won a home match for months across seasons I don't understand where this guaranteed cross and goal to kill the game comes from. In our current situation Scannell's cameo was exactly what was needed to see the game out. In Hammill's last league appearance he came on as sub, skipped down the wing before putting in an excellent cross for Vaughan which resulted in him being bundled over for what was a stonewall penalty in everybody's eyes but the ref's. To get the best out of Hammill he needs a target to aim for and so often in the early part of last season he found Vaughan. In the latter part of last season his crossing may well have looked suspect but when you only have Wells to aim at then its meat & drink for the central defenders. Now we have Holt in team he'd be a perfect target for Hammill. I'm not criticising Scannell's cameo on Saturday particularly if he was under orders, but for me trying to get another goal against poor opposition is a far better tactic than a time wasting one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 11:46:28 GMT 1
I'm not saying he's a hero. And yes of course I'd rather have us score another goal and put the game to bed rather than time waste. But those two points in no way justify Hammill who would have A) Not put a decent cross in but pissed about and turned over possession and B) Not held the ball up well but pissed about and lost possession. Pick one. For a club who'd not won a home match for months across seasons I don't understand where this guaranteed cross and goal to kill the game comes from. In our current situation Scannell's cameo was exactly what was needed to see the game out. In Hammill's last league appearance he came on as sub, skipped down the wing before putting in an excellent cross for Vaughan which resulted in him being bundled over for what was a stonewall penalty in everybody's eyes but the ref's. To get the best out of Hammill he needs a target to aim for and so often in the early part of last season he found Vaughan. In the latter part of last season his crossing may well have looked suspect but when you only have Wells to aim at then its meat & drink for the central defenders. Now we have Holt in team he'd be a perfect target for Hammill. I'm not criticising Scannell's cameo on Saturday particularly if he was under orders, but for me trying to get another goal against poor opposition is a far better tactic than a time wasting one. It probably is, and I agree if fit Hammill should be given the chance to find Holt and see if he can put the 2nd half of last season behind him. But with the confidence we had and the monkey on Powell's back I think he got it right on Saturday utilising Scannell's hold up rather than push for another goal. They were vital seconds in extra time that Millwall didn't have the ball. You only have to look at Charlton and Boro to see what can be done if we don't keep possession late on this season.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 29, 2014 11:55:03 GMT 1
From what I read at the time AH had been pissed and knocked out by a bouncer, or something like that. He attacked the paramedic when he was coming round and presumably was not in full control of his faculties. After reading your last sentence I think I'd rather be in the company of AH than yourself, and you've written that while you're sober, or are you? And you call hammill? hardly the language of someone of high morals or intellect...pot calling the kettle methinks Read on . Hammill was coming round after consuming 15 pints of lager and 5 vodka shots . I very much doubt that drinking this amount of alcohol is part of the clubs new fitness programme. This type of behaviour would provide bloody good business down at the canalside.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 29, 2014 12:03:32 GMT 1
Anyone that thinks Scanell is better than Hammill needs to give their heard a shake!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 12:10:49 GMT 1
Hammill will win you 5-10 games a season Scannell can help you see the occasional game out
I know who I'd prefer to have playing
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 29, 2014 12:11:40 GMT 1
Anyone that thinks Scanell is better than Hammill needs to give their heard a shake! Both players are fantastic to watch when running at the opposition defences and takes me back to the Yeovil away game. I was slated by many on this website for singing Scannells praises after that match as most thought he was not a good player . Today seems a totally different story.
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