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Post by Beech's Nuts on Nov 18, 2014 13:56:16 GMT 1
Mike O'Grady Trevor Cherry Just wanted to get my two cents worth in by reminiscing on a couple more who could've made the list. I think Cherry could rightly feel miffed. He helped us gain promotion to the top flight and went on to play for England (as did Frank Worthington). However, he made the cardinal sin of going on to play for Leeds United (but so did Frank). He also was involved with the 'pay up and stay up' ultimatum given to the club in our second season in the old Division One (as was Frank). I'd forgotten that Frank included Leeds among 11 League teams that he played and scored for. Mike O'Grady was a very skillful left winger who also was transferred to Leeds. Whilst still at Town he got his first England cap scoring two goals against Northern Ireland in the Home Championship. Despite this it was over 6 years, whilst at Wolves, before he made his second and final England appearance against France in a friendly.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 18, 2014 14:10:18 GMT 1
One player who I'm surprised is missing, although he is probably more a cult hero than anything else, is Iain Dunn. Not the greatest striker ever but had the knack of grabbing vital goals, goals from the bench and in particular he changed the play off final at Wembley against Bristol Rovers with his introduction, we were a different team when he came on and we all know what happened next.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Nov 18, 2014 14:24:35 GMT 1
Have to say that is a very poor list and really undervalues our history. I think it makes us look a bit tinpot when you look at the careers of the some of the "greatest" (especially in the last 40 years). Frankly it looks like the kind list a club like Bradford City (with no real history) would cobble together
I think the obvious miss is George Brown, the highest scorer in the clubs History. How any creditable list can not include the clubs highest scorer is beyond me
Also my late Grandpa would be turning in his grave at the omission of Sam Wadsworth. My Grandpa was a regular for 70 years, starting in the mid 20's (so saw everyone in that list play bar Peter Clarke) and he always rated Wadsworth as the best he'd seen at Town - bar none
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 18, 2014 14:35:27 GMT 1
Have to say that is a very poor list and really undervalues our history. I think it makes us look a bit tinpot when you look at the careers of the some of the "greatest" (especially in the last 40 years). Frankly it looks like the kind list a club like Bradford City (with no real history) would cobble together I think the obvious miss is George Brown, the highest scorer in the clubs History. How any creditable list can not include the clubs highest scorer is beyond me Also my late Grandpa would be turning in his grave at the omission of Sam Wadsworth. My Grandpa was a regular for 70 years, starting in the mid 20's (so saw everyone in that list play bar Peter Clarke) and he always rated Wadsworth as the best he'd seen at Town - bar none No one doubts these players were great but seriously do you expect people to vote for players who they haven't seen play? Great players are great players to fans for different reasons. Having said that I would have voted for Frankie and Denis Law, although I never saw them play live in the flesh I know they were great players by things I've seen on the TV of them. Football was totally different in the 20's and 30's than it is from say mid 60's onwards, tactics were being adopted making players better to watch and therefore better than the games predecessors.
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Post by AndySk on Nov 18, 2014 14:44:55 GMT 1
Cant please everyone, dont see owt wrong with that list. Gives fans who just love to moan about something/anything the chance to have a whinge about it so its all good.
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 18, 2014 14:49:26 GMT 1
I think Cherry could rightly feel miffed. He helped us gain promotion to the top flight and went on to play for England (as did Frank Worthington). However, he made the cardinal sin of going on to play for Leeds United (but so did Frank). He also was involved with the 'pay up and stay up' ultimatum given to the club in our second season in the old Division One (as was Frank). I'd forgotten that Frank included Leeds among 11 League teams that he played and scored for. Mike O'Grady was a very skillful left winger who also was transferred to Leeds. Whilst still at Town he got his first England cap scoring two goals against Northern Ireland in the Home Championship. Despite this it was over 6 years, whilst at Wolves, before he made his second and final England appearance against France in a friendly. When asked about that, Frank's response, in typical style, was: "It was actually 12 if you include Stringfellow's."
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Post by OldRastrickian on Nov 18, 2014 15:09:30 GMT 1
Just as there aren't many people left who were actively involved in WW1, I don't suppose there are many fans left who saw any of Town's games during the 1923/6 hat-trick of championships.
It's that long ago......:-{
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 18, 2014 15:33:03 GMT 1
One player who I'm surprised is missing, although he is probably more a cult hero than anything else, is Iain Dunn. Not the greatest striker ever but had the knack of grabbing vital goals, goals from the bench and in particular he changed the play off final at Wembley against Bristol Rovers with his introduction, we were a different team when he came on and we all know what happened next. Im surprised Neil Parsley didn't get in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 15:41:50 GMT 1
I'd have had Beckford in, his goals kept us in the championship in his loan spell.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Nov 18, 2014 20:43:01 GMT 1
Have to say that is a very poor list and really undervalues our history. I think it makes us look a bit tinpot when you look at the careers of the some of the "greatest" (especially in the last 40 years). Frankly it looks like the kind list a club like Bradford City (with no real history) would cobble together I think the obvious miss is George Brown, the highest scorer in the clubs History. How any creditable list can not include the clubs highest scorer is beyond me Also my late Grandpa would be turning in his grave at the omission of Sam Wadsworth. My Grandpa was a regular for 70 years, starting in the mid 20's (so saw everyone in that list play bar Peter Clarke) and he always rated Wadsworth as the best he'd seen at Town - bar none No one doubts these players were great but seriously do you expect people to vote for players who they haven't seen play? Great players are great players to fans for different reasons. Having said that I would have voted for Frankie and Denis Law, although I never saw them play live in the flesh I know they were great players by things I've seen on the TV of them. Football was totally different in the 20's and 30's than it is from say mid 60's onwards, tactics were being adopted making players better to watch and therefore better than the games predecessors. But the point is we have 3 stars on our shirts today because of the Thrice Champions. Whether it was different in the 20's it's heritage all Town fans are rightly proud of it. One of our main songs is "we won the FA Cup and now we're going up" again harks back to that team and era Frankly Iit would be very hard to argue that we weren't the greatest team on the planet for a time! We have unbelievable history yet reading that list you'd barely know it I understand many younger fans won't know the team from the 20's (hence the greatest list) but I think its a shame that Stephenson, Brown, Jackson, Wadsworth aren't in there with Smith. IMO they are the real greatest of our club - whether they played in living memory or not
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 18, 2014 20:54:46 GMT 1
No one doubts these players were great but seriously do you expect people to vote for players who they haven't seen play? Great players are great players to fans for different reasons. Having said that I would have voted for Frankie and Denis Law, although I never saw them play live in the flesh I know they were great players by things I've seen on the TV of them. Football was totally different in the 20's and 30's than it is from say mid 60's onwards, tactics were being adopted making players better to watch and therefore better than the games predecessors. But the point is we have 3 stars on our shirts today because of the Thrice Champions. Whether it was different in the 20's it's heritage all Town fans are rightly proud of it. One of our main songs is "we won the FA Cup and now we're going up" again harks back to that team and era Frankly Iit would be very hard to argue that we weren't the greatest team on the planet for a time! We have unbelievable history yet reading that list you'd barely know it I understand many younger fans won't know the team from the 20's (hence the greatest list) but I think its a shame that Stephenson, Brown, Jackson, Wadsworth aren't in there with Smith. IMO they are the real greatest of our club - whether they played in living memory or not Don't disagree, but them titles are in the distant past, I really myself as a Town fan feel no affinity to that era, it's so distant and remote that to me it's a footnote in the history of football.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2014 21:01:32 GMT 1
I'd love someone to do a george donis one and plant it next to the others
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Post by 5kippy on Nov 18, 2014 23:33:15 GMT 1
Thought scoffsablue might of been up there tbh, I demand a recount. I came 15th Ben He's just been immortalised on Radio Leeds!!!
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