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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 21:45:56 GMT 1
To reiterate, this is pointless
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 21:46:00 GMT 1
It's unbelievable how many times we've explained what happened and yet they just don't want to accept it. Their choice I guess but it's sad that these accusations all started again from a comment taken out of context and from someone I invited to my site in good faith. Mids, you have no facts at all, especially nothing new. You've seen part of a comment that was said in jest (complete with Smiley face) and that's it. So tell me: Did 'Terry' deliberately delete the board? Did Lindley egg him on to do so? No. It was a mistake as was explained at the time. No.
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 24, 2014 21:48:30 GMT 1
You just got an explanation and chose to ignore it.
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 21:48:50 GMT 1
I thought some of your comments were reasonable arguments until now, if you look back at my previous answer to your points I explained how the "clique" was formed by the admins moving all away day posts to a separate board . . . hence the name Pikey. I can take it that you won't listen to the truth in case it gets in the way of your perceived views.
Incidentally I will like any post I agree with including yours, it's not a case of being in a clique it's a case of freedom to agree or disagree. I help run the Millbridge coach and I'm proud of it and all we have done, so please get the name right . . . it 's PIKEY'S not Massive
"I can take it you won't listen" - That's entire conjecture and judgement without knowing who I am, or whether I've listened before. Not classy. What you have done, still do, and will continue to do has been, is and will be great. But you all know each other, from before the PSB board ever existed and are a clique. Cliques are everywhere in life, it's nothing to be ashamed of. Not once have I gone personal (bar a rebuttal of a Mids comment), as its the sign of a weak argument. "When losing, speak louder". My point is that as you all know each other, it may seem really important as you continue to bring it up, where as to the majority of the DATM's users, it really isn't. Naming and shaming appears (to me at least) very petty and just not right nice. The repercussions for those named seems likely to be far greater than the removal of an online forum. Redredging three years later isn't freedom of speech but instead a personal attack, possibly libellous, on a public forum. It may well be conjecture, but I was referring to the fact that you apparently ignored my explanation of the events leading up to the PSB being deleted. This was based on your comment "stick together lads, makes it more believable if you do" which suggests you didn't take what I said as the truth. As you don't know me either I could take offence to that but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. Some of your points are a bit contradictory though, i.e cliques are nothing to be ashamed of but yet you mention earlier . . . Millbridge Massive - clique. "Not once have I got personal" (except once with Mids), "as it's a sign of a weak argument" hmmmm
A little bit of background for you so as to avoid any conjecture on your part. Yes we all know each other, but did you know there have been well over 100 different people travel with the Millbridge clique at some time. There is a core of around 25 regular users with numbers made up with casual "walk up" users (including one of the named admins), people have come from Leeds, Bradford, Bingley, Pontefract and everywhere between to travel on the coach, we accept any Town fan with open arms. The reason it sticks in the throat is that people I have called friends have stabbed me and others like me in the back.
Anyway I now know where I stand with certain people so I'll move on and treat them with the contempt they deserve. Next time you're in the Canalside look me up and we can shake hands and have a beer. UTT
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Post by BoltonTerrier on Nov 24, 2014 21:50:58 GMT 1
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Post by Zopa64 on Nov 24, 2014 21:52:20 GMT 1
Why can't some people read and understand? Three years ago we were told that the deletion was an accident. Recently we discovered that an admin did it deliberately and that another admin apparently egged him on. Those are the new facts that have caused the upset. How this is divisive in any way to DATM or connected to the NSL I have no idea. As far as I'm concerned it is about the actions of two people who were dishonest and the evidence to support this has only recently appeared. I'm not sure why folk who weren't involved or affected feel so strongly about this thread? All I can see from the best part of 250 posts on this thread is that you and a select few others are not reading and understanding what has happened. Those posts on dwtm were not new, they were dragged up because someone dared to comment on the NSL on a completely separate form of social media.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 21:52:29 GMT 1
This may not be an NSL specific discussion, but it isn't giving off any sense of unity among fans. Who'd want to be involved with something that has divisions within it, especially over something so trivial and old?
Limit the damage, lock the thread and get back to focusing on now and the future, rather than the pointless, unchangeable past.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 24, 2014 21:53:18 GMT 1
I asked you for an explanation not to be patronised An explanation ? What is there to explain ? Words on a screenshotted screen do not constitute " facts" I once had bum sex with the queen mother ... Screenshot that Except I didn't did I .. It's just words.. Just like terrierdaz' words on that pikey thread.. Words on a screen... Taken totally without context... If you have a word with your mates I'm sure they'll tell you that they don't believe this shit. Either.. It's gone on long enough it's time to stop Pete
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 24, 2014 21:59:12 GMT 1
Bloody hell. Here we go again. No it wasn't done on purpose. The first post is by myself and I meant that I found it funny when people thought that Terry wasn't a real person. That's it, nothing more intended and I certainly didn't mean that I found the deletion of the board funny, that just happened to be when it happened. The second comment about egging him on was said in jest, hence the smiley face, as people also accused Lindley at the time. It was a joke, which is what we do on that forum and the person who brought all this to light on here should have known better. So there you go. That's what you have. But I'm going to guess that you won't accept it as that as you've been told the same over and over so I'm gonna leave this now. I appreciate your reply. I'm glad to know that Lindley didn't egg him on and that it was a joke but I'm sure you can see how this was open to a different interpretation. I think the point made at the time was that Terry wasn't the real name of the admin responsible and that's different from saying he wasn't a real person. I also appreciate that you were having what you thought was a 'safe' conversation and it hasn't helped matters that it has been made public. As you are well aware, the deletion of the board left a very nasty taste so perhaps best not to make light of any part of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:00:12 GMT 1
"I can take it you won't listen" - That's entire conjecture and judgement without knowing who I am, or whether I've listened before. Not classy. What you have done, still do, and will continue to do has been, is and will be great. But you all know each other, from before the PSB board ever existed and are a clique. Cliques are everywhere in life, it's nothing to be ashamed of. Not once have I gone personal (bar a rebuttal of a Mids comment), as its the sign of a weak argument. "When losing, speak louder". My point is that as you all know each other, it may seem really important as you continue to bring it up, where as to the majority of the DATM's users, it really isn't. Naming and shaming appears (to me at least) very petty and just not right nice. The repercussions for those named seems likely to be far greater than the removal of an online forum. Redredging three years later isn't freedom of speech but instead a personal attack, possibly libellous, on a public forum. It may well be conjecture, but I was referring to the fact that you apparently ignored my explanation of the events leading up to the PSB being deleted. This was based on your comment "stick together lads, makes it more believable if you do" which suggests you didn't take what I said as the truth. As you don't know me either I could take offence to that but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. Some of your points are a bit contradictory though, i.e cliques are nothing to be ashamed of but yet you mention earlier . . . Millbridge Massive - clique. "Not once have I got personal" (except once with Mids), "as it's a sign of a weak argument" hmmmm
A little bit of background for you so as to avoid any conjecture on your part. Yes we all know each other, but did you know there have been well over 100 different people travel with the Millbridge clique at some time. There is a core of around 25 regular users with numbers made up with casual "walk up" users (including one of the named admins), people have come from Leeds, Bradford, Bingley, Pontefract and everywhere between to travel on the coach, we accept any Town fan with open arms. The reason it sticks in the throat is that people I have called friends have stabbed me and others like me in the back.
Anyway I now know where I stand with certain people so I'll move on and treat them with the contempt they deserve. Next time you're in the Canalside look me up and we can shake hands and have a beer. UTT
'More believable' referred to strength in numbers, and that folk not familiar with what happened are more likely to take the side with the higher numbers of supporter. Ultimatly, no evidence has been provided here at all, other than "he said, she said". It may be true, but the evidence hasn't been supplied here, only someone's word. I'm very familiar with what happened, and will stick with what I've already said. My opinion is based on what I know and what I have seen, not second hand information. Absolutely, grown up debates is what this forum is for and certainly will do the next time I make it down.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 24, 2014 22:01:50 GMT 1
You just got an explanation and chose to ignore it. Forgive my delay due to reading other threads in-between before coming back to this one
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 22:11:56 GMT 1
ok last word on this
1. This is nothing to do with the NSL ( even I as a Pikey have criticised the NSL in the past ) so that dispels the NSL - Pikey Clique thing
2. The deletion of the PSB was a very sad thing that means a lot of history was lost , what makes that harder is that some of the stuff on there was from posters no longer on this mortal coil.
3. The person/persons responsible for the deletion have been named - whether it was an accident or not , stirring things up on other sites will provoke a reaction
4.DWTM exists so what..... people are entitled to their own opinions and can post what they want and where they want
5. Time now to move on and get behind Town no matter where or what you post , no matter what your thoughts are on other members of the forum,
6. Let me be the first to wish you all Happy christmas
This thread will be locked at 10 pm
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Post by Giggity on Nov 24, 2014 22:15:20 GMT 1
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Post by bluearmy1908 on Nov 24, 2014 22:31:13 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:31:55 GMT 1
ok last word on this 1. This is nothing to do with the NSL ( even I as a Pikey have criticised the NSL in the past ) so that dispels the NSL - Pikey Clique thing 2. The deletion of the PSB was a very sad thing that means a lot of history was lost , what makes that harder is that some of the stuff on there was from posters no longer on this mortal coil. 3. The person/persons responsible for the deletion have been named - whether it was an accident or not , stirring things up on other sites will provoke a reaction 4.DWTM exists so what..... people are entitled to their own opinions and can post what they want and where they want 5. Time now to move on and get behind Town no matter where or what you post , no matter what your thoughts are on other members of the forum, 6. Let me be the first to wish you all Happy christmas This thread will be locked at 10 pm Daz 2. As I said in a previous post the 1st person to mention Fitzy and his passing on DWTM was Rob. Yes stuff that Fitzy posted got lost in the delete but don't try and make out that Rob wasn't as upset as anyone else. 4. You mention not giving a toss about the site but then request to join?
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 22:39:27 GMT 1
have I requested to join - oh yes I did , I needed to see for myself and make an informed decision to let this thread run or not , but as I was denied access I was not afforded that luxury.
As for making out Rob was not upset - where did I say I was referring to Fitzy blue - where have I said or even implied that - you need to read that again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:45:11 GMT 1
have I requested to join - oh yes I did , I needed to see for myself and make an informed decision to let this thread run or not , but as I was denied access I was not afforded that luxury. As for making out Rob was not upset - where did I say I was referring to Fitzy blue - where have I said or even implied that - you need to read that again. Apologies if there were other people on the board that have passed away.
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Post by mightyterrier on Nov 24, 2014 22:45:17 GMT 1
I sit on neither side of this debate but it's clear that it has evoked a lot of passion and feelings are running high. I think its best closed, having on occasion come across the Pikey's and many others who have posted on the debate, I have nothing but admiration for many so perhaps now the debate has been had it's time to move on.
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Post by Sio on Nov 24, 2014 22:45:36 GMT 1
A can't speyk. Can of worms reopened. FWIW I think that's a very fair explanation Graham.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 24, 2014 22:45:43 GMT 1
I feel bad because Rob messged me several times at the time the board disappeared and I totally trusted him. The recent screenshot put that trust in doubt (taking it at face value). I'm happy to take Johnny's word that this was a joke at Rob's expense but it caused me to feel uncomfortable.
I'd like to think that we've all got a lot more right than wrong together and will move on with that in mind.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:53:02 GMT 1
This thread wants locking for GOOD and not ever reopening.Enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:55:03 GMT 1
Missed good old fall out threads.dont lock it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:56:05 GMT 1
This thread wants locking for GOOD and not ever reopening.Enough. its not 10oclock yet
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:57:50 GMT 1
It should have been knocked on the head ages ago.IMNSHO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 22:57:32 GMT 1
will there be added on time,for timewasting?
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Post by bro600 on Nov 24, 2014 22:59:48 GMT 1
Missed good old fall out threads.dont lock it It's enlightening and explains a lot of the wind-up merchants who come on now and again for the laugh. It also explains why DATM as gone downhill as some debates have been ruined by snipers who appear and disappear back to their holes for a little titter. Pathetic is about right..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:00:59 GMT 1
hang on ive got some new evidence
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:01:08 GMT 1
What's the point it will start up in another thread.may as well leave this one. In other news what ever happened to that nutter from the Isle of Man ??
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 23:01:33 GMT 1
Ok
Thats it for this thread
If any one has a problem with it being locked PM me
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