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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 21:52:26 GMT 1
So get rid of Lynch because he's injury prone but keep Hogg and Vaughan? Where's the logic there? Vaughan we spent £600,000 on. Nobody else spend that on him. So we are stuck. Hogg has been unfortunate this seasons he has never had a season like this before.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 21:53:57 GMT 1
you want rid of Butterfield? one of our best players this season. strange Jury out for on Butterfield. Pretty on the ball, but Austin for Leeds ran rings round him. Stronger, more desire. Butterfield is a luxury player.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 21:54:36 GMT 1
Also you can't complain about the defence not being good enough and then saying to get rid of our best defender Always out injured. Big wage earner that is never on the pitch.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 21:55:22 GMT 1
you want rid of Butterfield? one of our best players this season. strange Well we got rid of Gary Clayton who was the player of the year wasn't he ? Strange Who the fuck is Gary Clayton. If you mean Adam. Well he wanted to leave.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 21:56:47 GMT 1
For three seasons we have got leaked goal after goal after goal. The summer should have one focus. Replace all the defenders and I mean all.. Wallace... He just makes mistake after mistake. The rest including Hudson are also not good enough at this level. (Hudson anymore, too slow). Lynch. Bags of ability, too injury prone, sorry get rid. Midfield. We need more strength we are so weak in the tackle its woeful. Keep Hogg,Coady. Rest can all go. Attack. Possibly not our weakest area as some might think, Add one more proven championship striker. Our away support at some of the games has been outstanding. Take a bow lads. (And lasses). Our team just isn't good enough. If we don't invest I struggle to see how next season will different. Utt you make it sound so easy - well it is in FIFA 2015 so why cant Town just do what you think. or maybe we should all start eating bags of crisps until we find the players we need at the bottom. Idiot. Just my opinion. That's what a forum is for. Shame you hide behind a "profile" name. Idiot.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Mar 4, 2015 21:57:44 GMT 1
Also you can't complain about the defence not being good enough and then saying to get rid of our best defender Always out injured. Big wage earner that is never on the pitch. but you'd keep Vaughan?
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 21:58:18 GMT 1
Something definitely needs to happen with the defence, it's just not good enough. Sometimes you need to get rid of a fan favourite or key player to benefit the team. Like getting rid of Clayton improved our midfield and gave more balance. Or Liverpool getting into great form with Gerrard being injured. Maybe we need to get rid of Lynch/Hudson/Wallace and get a fresh defence. We need to do something. We just concede goals and more goals.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 22:00:01 GMT 1
Powell needs to leave Hudson ,Edgar and Wallace on the bench on Saturday. The bench I am on about is the one outside Huddersfield railway station with each player given a one way train ticket back to where they came from. For these players to describe themselves as championship quality defenders would surely break the trade descriptions act, and there must be players in the youth set up who could do a better job. Finally, so,embody with sense. How Wallace keeps getting picked is beyond me. Every time I watch highlights he always seems to have made a mistake. Not for me, get rid.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:01:28 GMT 1
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:02:28 GMT 1
Speaking of Clayton, has he managed to score for boro yet?
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Post by Essex Terrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:03:11 GMT 1
Gary Clayton played for Town in the 90's Yes, Warnock brought him in from Cambridge. Aaaahhh! Those halcyon days when we could but dream of signing players from top sides like.......errrr... Cambridge?
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 22:03:54 GMT 1
For three seasons we have got leaked goal after goal after goal. The summer should have one focus. Replace all the defenders and I mean all.. Wallace... He just makes mistake after mistake. The rest including Hudson are also not good enough at this level. (Hudson anymore, too slow). Lynch. Bags of ability, too injury prone, sorry get rid. Midfield. We need more strength we are so weak in the tackle its woeful. Keep Hogg,Coady. Rest can all go. Attack. Possibly not our weakest area as some might think, Add one more proven championship striker. Our away support at some of the games has been outstanding. Take a bow lads. (And lasses). Our team just isn't good enough. If we don't invest I struggle to see how next season will different. Utt I suppose you think Mr. Hoyle is about to squander another 30 odd mill?? I never said that. We over spent under Lee Clark and Grayson. Robins and Powell haven't had the luxury of signing player after player. I saw an earlier post saying what is the clubs plan ? I think the fans would like to know. Powell says the players that have left weren't effecting the team. We are a centre half light. Why are we not signing one ? Or are we saving money ? When Dean first came in, we knew we had young players that would eventually be sold on for decent money. Name me one now. . Wells, maybe.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 22:04:08 GMT 1
Speaking of Clayton, has he managed to score for boro yet? No
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:05:05 GMT 1
I suppose you think Mr. Hoyle is about to squander another 30 odd mill?? I never said that. We over spent under Lee Clark and Grayson. Robins and Powell haven't had the luxury of signing player after player. I saw an earlier post saying what is the clubs plan ? I think the fans would like to know. Powell says the players that have left weren't effecting the team. We are a centre half light. Why are we not signing one ? Or are we saving money ? When Dean first came in, we knew we had young players that would eventually be sold on for decent money. Name me one now. . Wells, maybe. Didn't robins sign Wells for £1.3m he got serious spend, just spent it on one player!
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 4, 2015 22:10:00 GMT 1
I never said that. We over spent under Lee Clark and Grayson. Robins and Powell haven't had the luxury of signing player after player. I saw an earlier post saying what is the clubs plan ? I think the fans would like to know. Powell says the players that have left weren't effecting the team. We are a centre half light. Why are we not signing one ? Or are we saving money ? When Dean first came in, we knew we had young players that would eventually be sold on for decent money. Name me one now. . Wells, maybe. Didn't robins sign Wells for £1.3m he got serious spend, just spent it on one player! He did. Dean signed him to sell on. I guess and I say guess there will be some pressure on Powell to play him.
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Post by terracesider on Mar 4, 2015 22:27:44 GMT 1
I suppose you think Mr. Hoyle is about to squander another 30 odd mill?? I never said that. We over spent under Lee Clark and Grayson. Robins and Powell haven't had the luxury of signing player after player. I saw an earlier post saying what is the clubs plan ? I think the fans would like to know. Powell says the players that have left weren't effecting the team. We are a centre half light. Why are we not signing one ? Or are we saving money ? When Dean first came in, we knew we had young players that would eventually be sold on for decent money. Name me one now. . Wells, maybe. I've no idea how much your proposal would cost; pay off 4 defenders + possibly 4 midfielders - replace them, presumably with transfer fees involved and bigger wages (they would have to be better players - by definition - and would, I imagine, be more expensive??) Maybe not 30 mill required but still quite rich?? What, I guess, the football men down there are hoping to do is develop Cody, Butterfield, Wallace, Carroll, Bunn, Smith, and even Nakhi in the same way that Chris Powell has squeezed previously unexpected performances from our South Landan winger. This approach, with a couple or so strategic buys in the summer would (they surmise) be capable of producing a team that next season could have a crack at the top half or even the play offs....That is my fervent hope any road. Interesting discussion - which will probably run until next season UTT
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Mar 4, 2015 22:49:48 GMT 1
I never said that. We over spent under Lee Clark and Grayson. Robins and Powell haven't had the luxury of signing player after player. I saw an earlier post saying what is the clubs plan ? I think the fans would like to know. Powell says the players that have left weren't effecting the team. We are a centre half light. Why are we not signing one ? Or are we saving money ? When Dean first came in, we knew we had young players that would eventually be sold on for decent money. Name me one now. . Wells, maybe. Didn't robins sign Wells for £1.3m he got serious spend, just spent it on one player! Pretty sure that was a business decision by Hoyle, and we would've signed him regardless of manager. A player like Nahki is an obvious investment at the price we got him for. He's easily worth double what we bought him for at this point, probably even more. I'm sure Hoyle would splash the cash on investments that are pretty much certain to make big returns if the opportunity were to arise (rare) but the days of excessive spending to try improve squad strength/depth to push up the league (making a loss) are long gone.
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Post by griffa on Mar 4, 2015 23:31:45 GMT 1
In terms of the defence I'd keep Lynch and Tommy Smith, rest can fuck off for me! Tommy Smith! What a joke he's not good enough - UTT.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:44:05 GMT 1
For three seasons we have got leaked goal after goal after goal. The summer should have one focus. Replace all the defenders and I mean all.. Wallace... He just makes mistake after mistake. The rest including Hudson are also not good enough at this level. (Hudson anymore, too slow). Lynch. Bags of ability, too injury prone, sorry get rid. Midfield. We need more strength we are so weak in the tackle its woeful. Keep Hogg,Coady. Rest can all go. Attack. Possibly not our weakest area as some might think, Add one more proven championship striker. Our away support at some of the games has been outstanding. Take a bow lads. (And lasses). Our team just isn't good enough. If we don't invest I struggle to see how next season will different. Utt Good enough for what, exactly?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 23:45:07 GMT 1
you want rid of Butterfield? one of our best players this season. strange Jury out for on Butterfield. Pretty on the ball, but Austin for Leeds ran rings round him. Stronger, more desire. Butterfield is a luxury player. Jury's out on Butterfield....I'm gobsmacked
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 5, 2015 0:55:05 GMT 1
Jury out for on Butterfield. Pretty on the ball, but Austin for Leeds ran rings round him. Stronger, more desire. Butterfield is a luxury player. Jury's out on Butterfield....I'm gobsmacked Jury's out on Duncan Foster based on this thread
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Mar 5, 2015 1:22:38 GMT 1
For three seasons we have got leaked goal after goal after goal. The summer should have one focus. Replace all the defenders and I mean all.. Wallace... He just makes mistake after mistake. The rest including Hudson are also not good enough at this level. (Hudson anymore, too slow). Lynch. Bags of ability, too injury prone, sorry get rid. Midfield. We need more strength we are so weak in the tackle its woeful. Keep Hogg,Coady. Rest can all go. Attack. Possibly not our weakest area as some might think, Add one more proven championship striker. Our away support at some of the games has been outstanding. Take a bow lads. (And lasses). Our team just isn't good enough. If we don't invest I struggle to see how next season will different. Utt Another lunatic who thinks we have 10 million squid sitting about. We have ZERO players to sell now - so you're asking for one way spending. LA LA LAND.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 5, 2015 1:30:06 GMT 1
I'm thinking if he thinks we re too good for Butterfield then it will b nearer 50 million pounds investment dunc is hoping for
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Post by townfan80 on Mar 5, 2015 1:42:35 GMT 1
Clueless!.. I'll keep it simple too... We have the players, we just don't have the tactics!... Powell is a decent enough manager.. and he realises we have the players... he just doesn't have a clue how to get the best out of them at the moment... which is bad management! But at the end of the day he's just an ex-footballer who has been given an opportunity based on the fact he was an ex-footballer... I kind of feel sorry for him that he's expected to be a good manager too!
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Post by benhomly on Mar 5, 2015 2:05:01 GMT 1
Clueless!.. I'll keep it simple too... We have the players, we just don't have the tactics!... Powell is a decent enough manager.. and he realises we have the players... he just doesn't have a clue how to get the best out of them at the moment... which is bad management! But at the end of the day he's just an ex-footballer who has been given an opportunity based on the fact he was an ex-footballer... I kind of feel sorry for him that he's expected to be a good manager too! So many contradictions in one statement!
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Post by trailingleg on Mar 5, 2015 2:40:02 GMT 1
Gary Clayton played for Town in the 90's Yes, Warnock brought him in from Cambridge. He scored a great goal from a 25 yard half-volley once. Can't remember who against.
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Post by pieeater on Mar 5, 2015 3:06:52 GMT 1
So the argument in summary is: get your chequebook out again Dean
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 5, 2015 8:38:34 GMT 1
Yes, Warnock brought him in from Cambridge. He scored a great goal from a 25 yard half-volley once. Can't remember who against. I can only ever remember him scoring once, a pen, in a Autoglass game against York. The half volley eludes me, I went to a shed load of games that season.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 5, 2015 16:47:30 GMT 1
I never said that. We over spent under Lee Clark and Grayson. Robins and Powell haven't had the luxury of signing player after player. I saw an earlier post saying what is the clubs plan ? I think the fans would like to know. Powell says the players that have left weren't effecting the team. We are a centre half light. Why are we not signing one ? Or are we saving money ? When Dean first came in, we knew we had young players that would eventually be sold on for decent money. Name me one now. . Wells, maybe. I've no idea how much your proposal would cost; pay off 4 defenders + possibly 4 midfielders - replace them, presumably with transfer fees involved and bigger wages (they would have to be better players - by definition - and would, I imagine, be more expensive??) Maybe not 30 mill required but still quite rich?? What, I guess, the football men down there are hoping to do is develop Cody, Butterfield, Wallace, Carroll, Bunn, Smith, and even Nakhi in the same way that Chris Powell has squeezed previously unexpected performances from our South Landan winger. This approach, with a couple or so strategic buys in the summer would (they surmise) be capable of producing a team that next season could have a crack at the top half or even the play offs....That is my fervent hope any road. Interesting discussion - which will probably run until next season UTT Considered response. You are right, of course, but.... And the "but" is that football requires immediate success... We have had three seasons of conceding goal after goal after goal. The same for Grayson, robins & Powell. For me that tells me it's the players not the manager.
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Post by duncfost01 on Mar 5, 2015 16:50:11 GMT 1
Jury out for on Butterfield. Pretty on the ball, but Austin for Leeds ran rings round him. Stronger, more desire. Butterfield is a luxury player. Jury's out on Butterfield....I'm gobsmacked Then when you watch a game you are only watching what he does on the ball. It's what they don't do when they don't have it that's the problem. !
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