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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 3, 2015 20:52:36 GMT 1
So we sell one of our best hungry young players and give Drain Homes a contract, Why ?? Will Homes get in first team, no chance. what are you on about? one player was on 5k plus a week and established and the other on less than 1k a week and home grown potential - don't see what the 2 have to do with each other Course it does.... Wages don't come into it imo, we gave HOLMES a deal, he's american But sold a superb energetic first teamer.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 20:53:49 GMT 1
The one post which seemed to point to the reality was the one by tog yesterday... About wolves triggering a release clause .... A clause which if we hadn't agreed to in the first place we would never have got the player.. So we've had him for a season and made a million... How can it be anything other than happy days for a club selling 6k season Tickets a year ? I think we would have flogged anyone in the squad for £2mm - release clause or not. Coady is the only one in the squad who was capable of playing in the Prem - although with Arfield's success (relative) you are never 100% sure. Well your hypothesising there aren't you ? Did we sell Rhodes for 2m .. and all of a sudden coady is kaka... I'd have had him down as about our sixth or seventh most effective operator last season ... Listen I'd rather have kept him goodshot but you really need to learn about how football operates
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 20:54:39 GMT 1
what are you on about? one player was on 5k plus a week and established and the other on less than 1k a week and home grown potential - don't see what the 2 have to do with each other Course it does.... Wages don't come into it imo, we gave HOLMES a deal, he's american But sold a superb energetic first teamer. ...and your point is???
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 20:56:18 GMT 1
Come on, even on a primal level there's nothing better than making profit on something, especially if that something is replaceable. Can't understand what all the outcry is about myself. You could argue that, at the primal level, getting your cheap squad to flash you in to the Premiership would be more desirable. After all if you were clever you'd make far more profit. You'd eventually be in the same position as Wolves - able to buy up the best young talent available.
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Post by AndySk on Jul 3, 2015 20:56:51 GMT 1
6 or 7 years ago we wouldn't have got £2million for our entire first XI. Just sold one guy for that price and we have a few better players than him in the squad already. How do we progress?
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Post by yoy on Jul 3, 2015 20:57:51 GMT 1
Out of your 7 players, 4 of them play central midfield and 2 of them play right back. Hardly a decent basis for a well balanced squad.
I'm guessing the point is the quality of the players (some of them it's questionable) rather than the individuals. Given a choice of a one time push in the direction of the playoffs (no guarantees) followed by 11 years of struggling to survive or progressing each and every year for seven seasons then I'd take the latter.
It's not blind faith that leads some to believe that the board knows best. In my case it is that I happen to agree with their approach.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 20:57:55 GMT 1
what are you on about? one player was on 5k plus a week and established and the other on less than 1k a week and home grown potential - don't see what the 2 have to do with each other Course it does.... Wages don't come into it imo, we gave HOLMES a deal, he's american But sold a superb energetic first teamer. You're a fuxking idiot.. admins please ban me
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Jul 3, 2015 20:58:29 GMT 1
So we sell one of our best hungry young players and give Drain Homes a contract, Why ?? Will Homes get in first team, no chance. what are you on about? one player was on 5k plus a week and established and the other on less than 1k a week and home grown potential - don't see what the 2 have to do with each other Thats it pick on Holmes its his fault that the clubs allegedly got no ambition...Holmes Billing Charles Lolley etc back up, only 11 can play ffs
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 20:59:53 GMT 1
I think we would have flogged anyone in the squad for £2mm - release clause or not. Coady is the only one in the squad who was capable of playing in the Prem - although with Arfield's success (relative) you are never 100% sure. Well your hypothesising there aren't you ? Did we sell Rhodes for 2m .. and all of a sudden coady is kaka... I'd have had him down as about our sixth or seventh most effective operator last season ... Listen I'd rather have kept him goodshot but you really need to learn about how football operates I meant the current squad. Hoyle told us he would have let Rhodes go for £4mm if Blackburn hadn't taken the piss. That's how football operates now doesn't it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:01:35 GMT 1
Come on, even on a primal level there's nothing better than making profit on something, especially if that something is replaceable. Can't understand what all the outcry is about myself. You could argue that, at the primal level, getting your cheap squad to flash you in to the Premiership would be more desirable. After all if you were clever you'd make far more profit. You'd eventually be in the same position as Wolves - able to buy up the best young talent available. You think we could have got to the premiership with Coady, but definitely can't without him?
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Post by patfield on Jul 3, 2015 21:02:05 GMT 1
To be honest I think the sale of Coady was a great piece of business. A nice profit, Deano has made a few bob with his shrewd business dealings. It makes perfect sense to reduce the debt and reinvest a part of it.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 21:04:25 GMT 1
Well your hypothesising there aren't you ? Did we sell Rhodes for 2m .. and all of a sudden coady is kaka... I'd have had him down as about our sixth or seventh most effective operator last season ... Listen I'd rather have kept him goodshot but you really need to learn about how football operates I meant the current squad. Hoyle told us he would have let Rhodes go for £4mm if Blackburn hadn't taken the piss. That's how football operates now doesn't it. I'm sorry I'm banned so I can't respond.. but he had a release clause .. you do get that bit don't you ?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 21:05:17 GMT 1
You could argue that, at the primal level, getting your cheap squad to flash you in to the Premiership would be more desirable. After all if you were clever you'd make far more profit. You'd eventually be in the same position as Wolves - able to buy up the best young talent available. You think we could have got to the premiership with Coady, but definitely can't without him? Yes and no. I think we have decreased our chances and increased Wolves' - but I'm over it now and just arguing for the sake of it.
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Post by York Terrier on Jul 3, 2015 21:06:09 GMT 1
Can we transfer Ted Chips please You'd like that wouldn't ya.. you'd like anyone who ever spoke a semblance of sense to fuck off too.. then you and your cretinous crew could carry on spouting bollocks to your heart's content forever more Which School did you go to ? Perhaps instead of spouting abuse you could find something sensible to say without using foul language. On the other hand yes I would like you to F--- Off
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 21:06:35 GMT 1
I meant the current squad. Hoyle told us he would have let Rhodes go for £4mm if Blackburn hadn't taken the piss. That's how football operates now doesn't it. I'm sorry I'm banned so I can't respond.. but he had a release clause .. you do get that bit don't you ? I don't know if he did or not. As I said £2mm is good value for any of our current squad - release clause or not.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Jul 3, 2015 21:08:53 GMT 1
I said when we signed Whitehead it was a smokescreen but the Butters £3 mill deal with Bournemouth fell through so Coady gone ...4 centre mids for 3 places something had to give i suppose....Burnley making another approach for Wells too and i reckon that Scanz might go to, question is who comes in? Need a centre back and a striker imo
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 21:09:34 GMT 1
I'm sorry I'm banned so I can't respond.. but he had a release clause .. you do get that bit don't you ? I don't know if he did or not. As I said £2mm is good value for any of our current squad - release clause or not. Yeah he did .. so that kind of alters things yes Or no
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Post by York Terrier on Jul 3, 2015 21:10:07 GMT 1
6 or 7 years ago we wouldn't have got £2million for our entire first XI. Just sold one guy for that price and we have a few better players than him in the squad already. How do we progress? Now I understand Let's all swap the BMW for a Lada Swap the semi for a caravan Swap the caravan for a Tent
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 21:10:13 GMT 1
You'd like that wouldn't ya.. you'd like anyone who ever spoke a semblance of sense to fuck off too.. then you and your cretinous crew could carry on spouting bollocks to your heart's content forever more Which School did you go to ? Perhaps instead of spouting abuse you could find something sensible to say without using foul language. On the other hand yes I would like you to F--- Off At least my mum sent me to school
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Post by yoy on Jul 3, 2015 21:11:52 GMT 1
I meant the current squad. Hoyle told us he would have let Rhodes go for £4mm if Blackburn hadn't taken the piss. That's how football operates now doesn't it. I'm sorry I'm banned so I can't respond.. but he had a release clause .. you do get that bit don't you ? Who did? Coady? I love how these things move from hypothesis to fact with very few steps in between....
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 21:14:48 GMT 1
I'm sorry I'm banned so I can't respond.. but he had a release clause .. you do get that bit don't you ? Who did? Coady? I love how these things move from hypothesis to fact with very few steps in between.... Oh my god... Read the threads !!! YES YES HE DID
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Post by patfield on Jul 3, 2015 21:15:16 GMT 1
6 or 7 years ago we wouldn't have got £2million for our entire first XI. Just sold one guy for that price and we have a few better players than him in the squad already. How do we progress? Now I understand Let's all swap the BMW for a Lada Swap the semi for a caravan Swap the caravan for a Tent No point having a BMW if you cant afford to insure it.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 3, 2015 21:17:06 GMT 1
I don't know if he did or not. As I said £2mm is good value for any of our current squad - release clause or not. Yeah he did .. so that kind of alters things yes Or no Only sort of. As I said I'd take £2mm for any of the current squad. I suppose Nahki has one as well? Hoyle said we would get bids for him in every close season. I'll listen to what tog and maynardblue say in the future. PS Is there anyone else I should take notice of?
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Post by terrierng on Jul 3, 2015 21:18:31 GMT 1
I said when we signed Whitehead it was a smokescreen but the Butters £3 mill deal with Brentford fell through so Coady gone ...4 centre mids for 3 places something had to give i suppose....Burnley making another approach for Wells too and i reckon that Scanz might go to, question is who comes in? Need a centre back and a striker imo Haha bullshit no one else will go
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Post by yoy on Jul 3, 2015 21:19:01 GMT 1
Who did? Coady? I love how these things move from hypothesis to fact with very few steps in between.... Oh my god... Read the threads !!! YES YES HE DID Oh my God. I have read them. As I say - it moves from hypothesis to fact with few steps in between. I've also read the club statement where there's no mention whatsoever of such a clause - in fact the implication is that there was a commercial negotiation. Up to you if you want to get stressed over my interpretation of some fans posts on a fans forum. Clearly your choice is made.
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Post by AndySk on Jul 3, 2015 21:19:42 GMT 1
6 or 7 years ago we wouldn't have got £2million for our entire first XI. Just sold one guy for that price and we have a few better players than him in the squad already. How do we progress? Now I understand Let's all swap the BMW for a Lada Swap the semi for a caravan Swap the caravan for a Tent We've clearly done nowt like that so I'm not sure what this means.
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Post by thomo on Jul 3, 2015 21:24:55 GMT 1
Depends what progress is. A solid top 12 finish would be progress for me next year. Don't expect play offs but don't expect us to be anywhere near the bottom 3 - a good 15 points clear by Xmas.
We're yet to show our real intentions this transfer window - expect us to pull off some major coups this next two weeks.
A big prob for us was doing business too late last year, think we have learnt our lesson and will have plenty of irons in the fire
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Post by terrierng on Jul 3, 2015 21:25:03 GMT 1
Yeah he did .. so that kind of alters things yes Or no Only sort of. As I said I'd take £2mm for any of the current squad. I suppose Nahki has one as well? Hoyle said we would get bids for him in every close season. I'll listen to what tog and maynardblue say in the future. PS Is there anyone else I should take notice of? Me,billing is ready to replace coady;)
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 21:26:56 GMT 1
Yeah he did .. so that kind of alters things yes Or no Only sort of. As I said I'd take £2mm for any of the current squad. I suppose Nahki has one as well? Hoyle said we would get bids for him in every close season. I'll listen to what tog and maynardblue say in the future. PS Is there anyone else I should take notice of? MB obviously has a lead in regarding transfers.. .. and TT obviously has a knowledge of the internal machinations ... Now n again people pop up with knowledge but not often I don't reckon
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 3, 2015 21:27:54 GMT 1
Oh my god... Read the threads !!! YES YES HE DID Oh my God. I have read them. As I say - it moves from hypothesis to fact with few steps in between. I've also read the club statement where there's no mention whatsoever of such a clause - in fact the implication is that there was a commercial negotiation. Up to you if you want to get stressed over my interpretation of some fans posts on a fans forum. Clearly your choice is made. And clearly your choice if you want to ignore the bleeding obvious and call it hypothesis
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