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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 16:34:59 GMT 1
If we were flirting with relegation last seasin (14 points off), we were flirting with the playoffs in our first season back (10 points off).
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Post by detox on Oct 7, 2015 16:45:28 GMT 1
would be just our luck to go down just as we would be due more Sky money next season (although I;ve no idea how much more...)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 16:49:13 GMT 1
We were eleven points clear of relegation places at the end of February then went through a sticky patch in March, but we were never less than eight points clear of bottom three. which side of the fence are you on?you stated we were 8 pts clear of 3rd bottom which is correct......but what I,m saying we were shitting em all way through the season up until the last few games.....like I said we have been floating with relegation fir the last 3 years.....its now going to be a 4th year but I don't think we will survive this time....UTT.... Russ, if we'd lost three out of our last four games like four teams in this division I'd start to panic, until that happens i'll keep my optimism mate....UTT....TTID and etc....
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Post by jimmymac on Oct 7, 2015 16:53:35 GMT 1
If we were flirting with relegation last seasin (14 points off), we were flirting with the playoffs in our first season back (10 points off). Marr I admire your enthusiasm but just come to terms with it my friend.....i love town just as much as you do and all the other members of datm......but the bottom line of it all we are shit....we never win many games.....we lose more than we win....we get knocked out of the cups early.....the football we play is shite.....and our attendances are going down....there is little hope if you ask me.....we need to start winning football matches.....if we don't we will end up in the bottom 3.....i don't like posting posts like this one but its all fact my friend.....i want us to win a few games but I cant honestly see it happening can you?hand on heart can you?.....UTT.....
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Post by jimmymac on Oct 7, 2015 16:54:10 GMT 1
which side of the fence are you on?you stated we were 8 pts clear of 3rd bottom which is correct......but what I,m saying we were shitting em all way through the season up until the last few games.....like I said we have been floating with relegation fir the last 3 years.....its now going to be a 4th year but I don't think we will survive this time....UTT.... Russ, if we'd lost three out of our last four games like four teams in this division I'd start to panic, until that happens i'll keep my optimism mate....UTT....TTID and etc.... ok pal....point taken......xxxx
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 17:06:35 GMT 1
if Newcastle or Villa come down,,,then we will probably go down too,,until they go back up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 17:06:45 GMT 1
We've been shite ever since jimmymac liberated his moustache.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 17:11:56 GMT 1
If we were flirting with relegation last seasin (14 points off), we were flirting with the playoffs in our first season back (10 points off). Marr I admire your enthusiasm but just come to terms with it my friend.....i love town just as much as you do and all the other members of datm......but the bottom line of it all we are shit....we never win many games.....we lose more than we win....we get knocked out of the cups early.....the football we play is shite.....and our attendances are going down....there is little hope if you ask me.....we need to start winning football matches.....if we don't we will end up in the bottom 3.....i don't like posting posts like this one but its all fact my friend.....i want us to win a few games but I cant honestly see it happening can you?hand on heart can you?.....UTT..... I can see us staying up, comfortably like the last two seasons or by the skin of our teeth. I've seen enough from the 3 games, prior to Wolves to see we should stay up. One poor performance and result shouldn't make people say we are going down, but as always, it does. We're not even in the bottom 3. Their are 7 teams (or is it 8?), below us. Bolton look worse than us, Rotherham I expect to go down and Id be surprised if at least one of the promoted teams dont go down.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 17:17:27 GMT 1
I don't know how staying up with a 14 point buffer is 'staying up by the skin of our teeth?' fact.....from August til April our arses were twitching?am I correct?it was only the last few games we gained some points? We were technically safe by February. This season looks similar. As fans we just need to get used to losing a few games, we've been up the top end for more or less ten years prior to getting promoted to this level.
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Post by captainblack on Oct 7, 2015 17:28:20 GMT 1
Oh cheer up everybody , If we get relegated I would be absolutely gutted but its only October and I honestly believe we are not that bad.I do think we need to improve in certain areas as a team but we could get another loan or strengthen in January so all is not quite lost just yet.
If we are bottom of the league in March feel free to give me some stick though I believe we will do reasonably well this season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 17:53:47 GMT 1
Oh cheer up everybody , If we get relegated I would be absolutely gutted but its only October and I honestly believe we are not that bad.I do think we need to improve in certain areas as a team but we could get another loan or strengthen in January so all is not quite lost just yet. If we are bottom of the league in March feel free to give me some stick though I believe we will do reasonably well this season. Agree, one point behind the champions of Europe in early October and some of the daft cnuts on here have already got us relegated, get a grip ffs.
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Post by y2troy on Oct 7, 2015 18:07:50 GMT 1
Again like any other game we show no potency up front and in this game ,goals changes games and this could be our downfall.I dont think we did that bad against Wolves they were just more clinical after they went in front
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 7, 2015 19:04:01 GMT 1
If we get a striker in we'll be fine, if we don't we're fooked.
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Post by jimmymac on Oct 7, 2015 19:07:30 GMT 1
If we get a striker in we'll be fine, if we don't we're fooked. we need some balls as well.....someone who,s going to run through brick walls for the cause.....unfortunately we haven't anyone like that......
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 7, 2015 19:38:52 GMT 1
We've lost 4 of our last 17 championship games, whilst I agree we need a new striker, it's not like we're not competing in games, is it?
Can people stop being so dramatic.. Please!
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Post by rubicon on Oct 7, 2015 20:00:54 GMT 1
So far, I've kept out of the happy clappers versus we're doomed debates, partly because folks replies get more than a little bit personal. I'm beginning to wonder though if there's an age split between the two opposing opinions? I started watching Town very early sixties, and throughout that decade, town flirted mostly with promotion until they achieved it in 1970. The only folks we tended to blame each season were the board, who tended to get the blame as Town blew it, generally in the Easter fixtures. We always thought they didn't want to part with any brass, if Town got promoted, a reality easily proved when Town did go up. Anyway I moved to Essex in 73, so saw very little of the crap years that followed during that decade. My point as an oldie though, is that sad to say, I have to agree with the original post. It's crap, and generally getting worse, and I was at Wolves on Saturday. We've lost good contract players for loan players, God alone knows what will happen even if we do survive, there's no one left to sell hardly, loans will be up, and youngsters we've signed have been shipped out on loan. Frank Worthington was pretty shite in 68/69, but completely different the season after, probably because he got his baptism the season before! Being polite, Millers just not good enough, Wells may or may not be, but has no confidence, and the rest are up and down like yo-yo's with their performances, apart from perhaps Cranie, Lynch, Ward and personally think Steers ok. And having said all that, they can't even put in a 90 minute shift. Its bloody awful to watch and thankfully work keeps me away from a good few games, but I keep going whenever I can. I'm an oldie though, so I'm afraid it's rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Those who started in the 70s though seem to think any form of Championship football is ok. Well we've been there twice before, and never lasted more than six seasons, and this visits looking pretty similar. When it happens, it'll be a one way trip direction too, because the decent players will have all been sold, and the loans will bugger off. Saddens me no end, but I can't see how we're ever going to change things with the current system. I'd so love to be proved wrong, so instead of slagging posters off, somebody get the bloody team to do it with actions!
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 7, 2015 20:06:51 GMT 1
if we do go down id just like to see more in the goals for column..they have my full and unequivocal support if we lose games where we cant fault the effort or the commitment to try and win em.. there is losing and losing without a fight.. although I firmly believe if we attack every game we will get enough points again but perhaps sooner? it will definitely be better to watch... we attacked wolves but when they had the ball we didn't look interested......the body language of most of our players on that day was appalling......only 2 players come out of that game with any credit was steer and caryol..... Carayol disappeared after the first 15 mins. Christ what game did you watch? For me we are a decent striker away from a good side. If we have to do with wells and Miller then I do agree that we might well be in deep trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 20:17:09 GMT 1
We've lost 4 of our last 17 championship games, whilst I agree we need a new striker, it's not like we're not competing in games, is it? Can people stop being so dramatic.. Please! We're told by some, we are going down every season, yet we've only been relegated twice in the last 27 years. A bloke I've known for the last 3 years has been saying to me, "we're going down". He said this last season and the season before. It seems to happen every time we lose a game. Its just a crazy overreaction. The thing is every club has them. People who are always so sure, their team is going down, but only 3 teams can go down.
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Post by charliedontsurf on Oct 7, 2015 20:23:52 GMT 1
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Post by jimmymac on Oct 7, 2015 20:34:09 GMT 1
So far, I've kept out of the happy clappers versus we're doomed debates, partly because folks replies get more than a little bit personal. I'm beginning to wonder though if there's an age split between the two opposing opinions? I started watching Town very early sixties, and throughout that decade, town flirted mostly with promotion until they achieved it in 1970. The only folks we tended to blame each season were the board, who tended to get the blame as Town blew it, generally in the Easter fixtures. We always thought they didn't want to part with any brass, if Town got promoted, a reality easily proved when Town did go up. Anyway I moved to Essex in 73, so saw very little of the crap years that followed during that decade. My point as an oldie though, is that sad to say, I have to agree with the original post. It's crap, and generally getting worse, and I was at Wolves on Saturday. We've lost good contract players for loan players, God alone knows what will happen even if we do survive, there's no one left to sell hardly, loans will be up, and youngsters we've signed have been shipped out on loan. Frank Worthington was pretty shite in 68/69, but completely different the season after, probably because he got his baptism the season before! Being polite, Millers just not good enough, Wells may or may not be, but has no confidence, and the rest are up and down like yo-yo's with their performances, apart from perhaps Cranie, Lynch, Ward and personally think Steers ok. And having said all that, they can't even put in a 90 minute shift. Its bloody awful to watch and thankfully work keeps me away from a good few games, but I keep going whenever I can. I'm an oldie though, so I'm afraid it's rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Those who started in the 70s though seem to think any form of Championship football is ok. Well we've been there twice before, and never lasted more than six seasons, and this visits looking pretty similar. When it happens, it'll be a one way trip direction too, because the decent players will have all been sold, and the loans will bugger off. Saddens me no end, but I can't see how we're ever going to change things with the current system. I'd so love to be proved wrong, so instead of slagging posters off, somebody get the bloody team to do it with actions! nice read...just sums up the whole situation.....
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Post by kaykie on Oct 7, 2015 20:42:18 GMT 1
In all fairness we are shite.ill still be there next game tho and the 1 after that.ttid
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Post by mightyterrier on Oct 7, 2015 21:00:01 GMT 1
I wonder what the response would have been had nick or Oti posted this?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 21:08:14 GMT 1
So far, I've kept out of the happy clappers versus we're doomed debates, partly because folks replies get more than a little bit personal. I'm beginning to wonder though if there's an age split between the two opposing opinions? I started watching Town very early sixties, and throughout that decade, town flirted mostly with promotion until they achieved it in 1970. The only folks we tended to blame each season were the board, who tended to get the blame as Town blew it, generally in the Easter fixtures. We always thought they didn't want to part with any brass, if Town got promoted, a reality easily proved when Town did go up. Anyway I moved to Essex in 73, so saw very little of the crap years that followed during that decade. My point as an oldie though, is that sad to say, I have to agree with the original post. It's crap, and generally getting worse, and I was at Wolves on Saturday. We've lost good contract players for loan players, God alone knows what will happen even if we do survive, there's no one left to sell hardly, loans will be up, and youngsters we've signed have been shipped out on loan. Frank Worthington was pretty shite in 68/69, but completely different the season after, probably because he got his baptism the season before! Being polite, Millers just not good enough, Wells may or may not be, but has no confidence, and the rest are up and down like yo-yo's with their performances, apart from perhaps Cranie, Lynch, Ward and personally think Steers ok. And having said all that, they can't even put in a 90 minute shift. Its bloody awful to watch and thankfully work keeps me away from a good few games, but I keep going whenever I can. I'm an oldie though, so I'm afraid it's rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Those who started in the 70s though seem to think any form of Championship football is ok. Well we've been there twice before, and never lasted more than six seasons, and this visits looking pretty similar. When it happens, it'll be a one way trip direction too, because the decent players will have all been sold, and the loans will bugger off. Saddens me no end, but I can't see how we're ever going to change things with the current system. I'd so love to be proved wrong, so instead of slagging posters off, somebody get the bloody team to do it with actions! I doubt age has anything to do with it, I first watched in the late 50s. The youngsters we've signed and shipped out on loan will return and may be the future multi million pound players....Or not. You missed out Whitehead in you summary, personally I think he'll be the key to this seasons progress. Anyway just to say a couple of games aside I've found most of this seasons performances an improvement on this time last year.
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Post by mightyterrier on Oct 7, 2015 21:43:12 GMT 1
So far, I've kept out of the happy clappers versus we're doomed debates, partly because folks replies get more than a little bit personal. I'm beginning to wonder though if there's an age split between the two opposing opinions? I started watching Town very early sixties, and throughout that decade, town flirted mostly with promotion until they achieved it in 1970. The only folks we tended to blame each season were the board, who tended to get the blame as Town blew it, generally in the Easter fixtures. We always thought they didn't want to part with any brass, if Town got promoted, a reality easily proved when Town did go up. Anyway I moved to Essex in 73, so saw very little of the crap years that followed during that decade. My point as an oldie though, is that sad to say, I have to agree with the original post. It's crap, and generally getting worse, and I was at Wolves on Saturday. We've lost good contract players for loan players, God alone knows what will happen even if we do survive, there's no one left to sell hardly, loans will be up, and youngsters we've signed have been shipped out on loan. Frank Worthington was pretty shite in 68/69, but completely different the season after, probably because he got his baptism the season before! Being polite, Millers just not good enough, Wells may or may not be, but has no confidence, and the rest are up and down like yo-yo's with their performances, apart from perhaps Cranie, Lynch, Ward and personally think Steers ok. And having said all that, they can't even put in a 90 minute shift. Its bloody awful to watch and thankfully work keeps me away from a good few games, but I keep going whenever I can. I'm an oldie though, so I'm afraid it's rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Those who started in the 70s though seem to think any form of Championship football is ok. Well we've been there twice before, and never lasted more than six seasons, and this visits looking pretty similar. When it happens, it'll be a one way trip direction too, because the decent players will have all been sold, and the loans will bugger off. Saddens me no end, but I can't see how we're ever going to change things with the current system. I'd so love to be proved wrong, so instead of slagging posters off, somebody get the bloody team to do it with actions! I doubt age has anything to do with it, I first watched in the late 50s. The youngsters we've signed and shipped out on loan will return and may be the future multi million pound players....Or not. You missed out Whitehead in you summary, personally I think he'll be the key to this seasons progress. Anyway just to say a couple of games aside I've found most of this seasons performances an improvement on this time last year. Agree totally, Whitehead will be a key figure in keeping us up
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2015 22:03:29 GMT 1
If we get a striker in we'll be fine, if we don't we're fooked. Even though we've gone more or less a quarter of a season without that striker and we're not in a position where we'd be 'fooked'? There are some rubbish teams below us, most of them will stay there, since they're below us at this stage for a reason.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 8, 2015 0:05:53 GMT 1
Top WUMming Russ
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Post by rubicon on Oct 8, 2015 3:30:43 GMT 1
Agree totally regarding Whitehead, so apologies I missed somebody. Possibly Huws too, though not on his Wolves performance........in my view. I will repeat, I haven't seen too many games, only took a take ten this season, as I work alternate Saturday's. Working this weekend, so the break and two away games in a row, have if I remember rightly buggered up my attendance until the Boro game. Visiting sister in Shrewsbury last weekend, hence the Wolves visit. In all seriousness, I doubt it is completely age related as to which camp you're in, just possibly something to do with it for some folks. Yes times have changed, Town aren't as big a club as they were then with fairly recent memories of nothing but top tier football. That doesn't make it any easier for some of us to come to terms with. Perhaps we need a nice new self help book, on how to accentuate the positive and join the happy clappers!
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Post by jimmymac on Oct 8, 2015 4:24:58 GMT 1
Agree totally regarding Whitehead, so apologies I missed somebody. Possibly Huws too, though not on his Wolves performance........in my view. I will repeat, I haven't seen too many games, only took a take ten this season, as I work alternate Saturday's. Working this weekend, so the break and two away games in a row, have if I remember rightly buggered up my attendance until the Boro game. Visiting sister in Shrewsbury last weekend, hence the Wolves visit. In all seriousness, I doubt it is completely age related as to which camp you're in, just possibly something to do with it for some folks. Yes times have changed, Town aren't as big a club as they were then with fairly recent memories of nothing but top tier football. That doesn't make it any easier for some of us to come to terms with. Perhaps we need a nice new self help book, on how to accentuate the positive and join the happy clappers! I like your posts Rubicon!!!!!uTT....
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Post by captainblack on Oct 8, 2015 5:59:26 GMT 1
We've lost 4 of our last 17 championship games, whilst I agree we need a new striker, it's not like we're not competing in games, is it? Can people stop being so dramatic.. Please! We're told by some, we are going down every season, yet we've only been relegated twice in the last 27 years. A bloke I've known for the last 3 years has been saying to me, "we're going down". He said this last season and the season before. It seems to happen every time we lose a game. Its just a crazy overreaction. The thing is every club has them. People who are always so sure, their team is going down, but only 3 teams can go down. We could be one of those 3 teams though Marr
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Post by bizkit on Oct 10, 2015 21:07:10 GMT 1
In the last few seasons we have had games where we got a thrashing, with or without playing quite well at times. Many times afterwards we have responded well and got a decent result. It can and will happen to almost any team in this division season after season.
I think we have enough strength within the squad for the season to see us into a relative safe season. We have players out on loan at other clubs getting playing time, who if we needed to recall them due to injuries/suspensions, would be match practice fit from the off. I'm sure that quite a few clubs will not have the same strength of depth and experience in this division, certainly the promoted teams.
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