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Post by midlander on Jan 29, 2017 8:40:04 GMT 1
Thought this lad deserved his own thread. Having heard about how highly rated he is, today was the first time that I've seen him live (wasn't at the friendly in summer of 2015 when he scored a rocket against us). Thought the lad dictated the entire game and for one so young, 21 I think, he looks to have a really big future. Anyhow, what's this got to do with Town? In the likely event that we are still in the Championship next season and we cannot get Mooy, I think this is a lad who we should seriously be looking at. Great in the holding role, tidy in possession, energetic, terrier-like, can step forward with the ball and has an eye for a goal. Reminds me a lot of Ryan Woods, but even better. Should have been booked in the first half but even at 4 down he was still playing the game properly. He epitomises Wagner's Terrier identity.
Thought their right back, McGahey also looked a good prospect. Good side they have over there and between the two boxes they were a lot better than us yesterday. In the boxes, a different matter though.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 29, 2017 9:57:37 GMT 1
He did look good in the second half, but we totally stood off him. If we were playing on a good pitch and he was being gegenpressed for 90 minutes then we could maybe see if he can cut it at the top end of the championship.
I don't think you can say whether he's better than Dempsey on that showing, and he'd need to be for us to look at him.
Also the challenge when someone played a one two off him and he just checked him was lazy and should've been a booking. I know it's only one foul but we didn't play around him much and when we did he committtd fouls.
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Post by wtd on Jan 29, 2017 10:06:09 GMT 1
Thought this lad deserved his own thread. Having heard about how highly rated he is, today was the first time that I've seen him live (wasn't at the friendly in summer of 2015 when he scored a rocket against us). Thought the lad dictated the entire game and for one so young, 21 I think, he looks to have a really big future. Anyhow, what's this got to do with Town? In the likely event that we are still in the Championship next season and we cannot get Mooy, I think this is a lad who we should seriously be looking at. Great in the holding role, tidy in possession, energetic, terrier-like, can step forward with the ball and has an eye for a goal. Reminds me a lot of Ryan Woods, but even better. Should have been booked in the first half but even at 4 down he was still playing the game properly. He epitomises Wagner's Terrier identity. Thought their right back, McGahey also looked a good prospect. Good side they have over there and between the two boxes they were a lot better than us yesterday. In the boxes, a different matter though. Said this to my lad in the second half... I thought he had something about him and was really bossing it at times. But, like eight ball says, we need to assess Dempsey properly first. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 10:15:28 GMT 1
Players with verb surnames always get a  from me. |
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Post by In sooth- - on Jan 29, 2017 10:29:13 GMT 1
Players with verb surnames always get a from me. Is your surname Lodge? - -if so you can be a noun AND a verb! |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 29, 2017 10:39:42 GMT 1
Thought this lad deserved his own thread. Having heard about how highly rated he is, today was the first time that I've seen him live (wasn't at the friendly in summer of 2015 when he scored a rocket against us). Thought the lad dictated the entire game and for one so young, 21 I think, he looks to have a really big future. Anyhow, what's this got to do with Town? In the likely event that we are still in the Championship next season and we cannot get Mooy, I think this is a lad who we should seriously be looking at. Great in the holding role, tidy in possession, energetic, terrier-like, can step forward with the ball and has an eye for a goal. Reminds me a lot of Ryan Woods, but even better. Should have been booked in the first half but even at 4 down he was still playing the game properly. He epitomises Wagner's Terrier identity. Thought their right back, McGahey also looked a good prospect. Good side they have over there and between the two boxes they were a lot better than us yesterday. In the boxes, a different matter though. Said this to my lad in the second half... I thought he had something about him and was really bossing it at times. But, like eight ball says, we need to assess Dempsey properly first. I thought you may have considered him petulant 😉 In all seriousness, I thought he looked potentially very good; strong, gritty and also skilful. However, I wasn't entirely convinced with his passing, especially when trying to hit longer balls to spread play. It wasn't poor and hard to judge on that pitch, but it didn't appear to Billing's standard. Off this I'm not really sure he would be competing for the Mooy role (that's Billing's!) as the OP alludes to, rather Hogg and Dempsey's. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 29, 2017 10:49:32 GMT 1
Said this to my lad in the second half... I thought he had something about him and was really bossing it at times. But, like eight ball says, we need to assess Dempsey properly first. I thought you may have considered him petulant 😉 In all seriousness, I thought he looked potentially very good; strong, gritty and also skilful. However, I wasn't entirely convinced with his passing, especially when trying to hit longer balls to spread play. It wasn't poor and hard to judge on that pitch, but it didn't appear to Billing's standard. Off this I'm not really sure he would be competing for the Mooy role (that's Billing's!) as the OP alludes to, rather Hogg and Dempsey's. But next season we will need competition for Billing if Mooy isn't here. |
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Post by Sarcastic Terrier on Jan 29, 2017 11:00:22 GMT 1
Good player, had a decent game I thought. Another one off the Dale production line.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 29, 2017 11:03:33 GMT 1
I thought you may have considered him petulant 😉 In all seriousness, I thought he looked potentially very good; strong, gritty and also skilful. However, I wasn't entirely convinced with his passing, especially when trying to hit longer balls to spread play. It wasn't poor and hard to judge on that pitch, but it didn't appear to Billing's standard. Off this I'm not really sure he would be competing for the Mooy role (that's Billing's!) as the OP alludes to, rather Hogg and Dempsey's. But next season we will need competition for Billing if Mooy isn't here. Agree, but not sure he has the passing game for that role. As I said though, the pitch was that bad, so not really fair to make a judgement. |
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Post by dugnet on Jan 29, 2017 11:07:23 GMT 1
My Rochdale mates said we made a bid in the summer which was turned down. Was told that last July, didn't post at the time as was unsubstantiated but possibly true.
Looks a tidy player, any better than Dempsey though?
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Post by E4b on Jan 29, 2017 11:18:42 GMT 1
Thought this lad deserved his own thread. Having heard about how highly rated he is, today was the first time that I've seen him live (wasn't at the friendly in summer of 2015 when he scored a rocket against us). Thought the lad dictated the entire game and for one so young, 21 I think, he looks to have a really big future. Anyhow, what's this got to do with Town? In the likely event that we are still in the Championship next season and we cannot get Mooy, I think this is a lad who we should seriously be looking at. Great in the holding role, tidy in possession, energetic, terrier-like, can step forward with the ball and has an eye for a goal. Reminds me a lot of Ryan Woods, but even better. Should have been booked in the first half but even at 4 down he was still playing the game properly. He epitomises Wagner's Terrier identity. Thought their right back, McGahey also looked a good prospect. Good side they have over there and between the two boxes they were a lot better than us yesterday. In the boxes, a different matter though. The very same 2 players caught my eye too, lively throughout the match, very good players and comfortable in possession. |
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Post by wtd on Jan 29, 2017 11:55:11 GMT 1
Said this to my lad in the second half... I thought he had something about him and was really bossing it at times. But, like eight ball says, we need to assess Dempsey properly first. 😉 In all seriousness, I thought he looked potentially very good; strong, gritty and also skilful. However, I wasn't entirely convinced with his passing, especially when trying to hit longer balls to spread play. It wasn't poor and hard to judge on that pitch, but it didn't appear to Billing's standard. Off this I'm not really sure he would be competing for the Mooy role (that's Billing's!) as the OP alludes to, rather Hogg and Dempsey's. The difference between this lad and Tom Lawrence (to whom your barb refers  ) is that this lad was fully committed to his team's cause. Lawrence, as good a footballer as he is, wasn't committed to either his team mates, his manager or his loan club's cause last Saturday. Camps wasn't petulant... he was simply up for it. |
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Post by midlander on Jan 29, 2017 11:59:44 GMT 1
Thought this lad deserved his own thread. Having heard about how highly rated he is, today was the first time that I've seen him live (wasn't at the friendly in summer of 2015 when he scored a rocket against us). Thought the lad dictated the entire game and for one so young, 21 I think, he looks to have a really big future. Anyhow, what's this got to do with Town? In the likely event that we are still in the Championship next season and we cannot get Mooy, I think this is a lad who we should seriously be looking at. Great in the holding role, tidy in possession, energetic, terrier-like, can step forward with the ball and has an eye for a goal. Reminds me a lot of Ryan Woods, but even better. Should have been booked in the first half but even at 4 down he was still playing the game properly. He epitomises Wagner's Terrier identity. Thought their right back, McGahey also looked a good prospect. Good side they have over there and between the two boxes they were a lot better than us yesterday. In the boxes, a different matter though. The very same 2 players caught my eye too, lively throughout the match, very good players and comfortable in possession. Think I'm right in saying that McGahey is a centre back as well. Maybe it's because he was right in front of us second half, but he looked very tidy. One spell where he nutmegged one and took it round two others. Not bad for an out of position centre-half. |
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Post by explorer on Jan 29, 2017 12:03:57 GMT 1
I though Dale looked a very tidy side, you can see why they are up there. Even in the warm-up their passing in the "chase me" routines looked crisp and accurate. In fact, their defence looked much happier with the ball at times than ours did. Unfortunately (for them) they couldn't defend very well.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jan 29, 2017 12:10:45 GMT 1
I though Dale looked a very tidy side, you can see why they are up there. Even in the warm-up their passing in the "chase me" routines looked crisp and accurate. In fact, their defence looked much happier with the ball at times than ours did. Unfortunately (for them) they couldn't defend very well. They pressed us a lot better than we pressed them, although we abandoned the press second half and dropped back. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 29, 2017 12:12:58 GMT 1
I thought you may have considered him petulant 😉 In all seriousness, I thought he looked potentially very good; strong, gritty and also skilful. However, I wasn't entirely convinced with his passing, especially when trying to hit longer balls to spread play. It wasn't poor and hard to judge on that pitch, but it didn't appear to Billing's standard. Off this I'm not really sure he would be competing for the Mooy role (that's Billing's!) as the OP alludes to, rather Hogg and Dempsey's. The difference between this lad and Tom Lawrence (to whom your barb refers ) is that this lad was fully committed to his team's cause. Lawrence, as good a footballer as he is, wasn't committed to either his team mates, his manager or his loan club's cause last Saturday. Camps wasn't petulant... he was simply up for it. I know, I was being facetious. I agree re Camps, who was just really gobby with the ref, but do think you're possibly being a tad harsh on Lawrence. |
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Post by wtd on Jan 29, 2017 12:35:55 GMT 1
The difference between this lad and Tom Lawrence (to whom your barb refers ) is that this lad was fully committed to his team's cause. Lawrence, as good a footballer as he is, wasn't committed to either his team mates, his manager or his loan club's cause last Saturday. Camps wasn't petulant... he was simply up for it. I know, I was being facetious. I agree re Camps, who was just really gobby with the ref, but do think you're possibly being a tad harsh on Lawrence.If that particular game is anything to go by, no. I think Lawrence is a fab footballer... I just think he's a bit of a 'Billy Big Bollocks' and his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Doubt Wagner would entertain him. I heard Leeds were in for him. Hmmmm... figures. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 29, 2017 12:48:19 GMT 1
I know, I was being facetious. I agree re Camps, who was just really gobby with the ref, but do think you're possibly being a tad harsh on Lawrence.If that particular game is anything to go by, no. I think Lawrence is a fab footballer... I just think he's a bit of a 'Billy Big Bollocks' and his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Doubt Wagner would entertain him. I heard Leeds were in for him. Hmmmm... figures. There's scope that is true, i'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt at the mo and seeing it as more frustration in wanting to win (or at least compete). |
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Post by wtd on Jan 29, 2017 12:53:53 GMT 1
If that particular game is anything to go by, no. I think Lawrence is a fab footballer... I just think he's a bit of a 'Billy Big Bollocks' and his attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Doubt Wagner would entertain him. I heard Leeds were in for him. Hmmmm... figures. There's scope that is true, i'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt at the mo and seeing it as more frustration in wanting to win (or at least compete). Fair enough. You may be right. |
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Post by AndySk on Jan 29, 2017 13:10:32 GMT 1
Players with verb surnames always get a from me. Agree. Just a shame I'm not very good at thinking of some though Emre Can. |
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Post by E4b on Jan 29, 2017 13:19:56 GMT 1
The very same 2 players caught my eye too, lively throughout the match, very good players and comfortable in possession. Think I'm right in saying that McGahey is a centre back as well. Maybe it's because he was right in front of us second half, but he looked very tidy. One spell where he nutmegged one and took it round two others. Not bad for an out of position centre-half. I didn't realise that at all, very impressive player is this chap. |
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Post by Stavros on Jan 29, 2017 13:20:31 GMT 1
Players with verb surnames always get a from me. In the third person singular particularly. |
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Post by COWleySHED on Jan 29, 2017 22:07:03 GMT 1
I think the loss of Calvin Andrew due to injury early on stifled the home side he is their target man and with their squad been so small when he went off they brought on a left back for his debut
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) is that this lad was fully committed to his team's cause. Lawrence, as good a footballer as he is, wasn't committed to either his team mates, his manager or his loan club's cause last Saturday. Camps wasn't petulant... he was simply up for it. 
