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Post by londonterrier23 on Jun 7, 2017 14:22:00 GMT 1
Hi all - I have been supporting town for some 35 years. Had a season ticket from don't know when but lived in south London since 99 and must have given up the season ticket in he early 00's. Make 4-8 home games a season and most of the southern games.
Whether home or away, I'm used to paying on the gate. Now thinking I have pretty much zero chance of getting a ticket for any london away games.
Wondering If anyone had any idea on how they are likely to be allocated?
Also - would me buying a home season ticket increase my chances?
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Post by stevvy on Jun 7, 2017 14:27:10 GMT 1
Buying a home season ticket may increase your chances, but it's difficult to be sure how they'll do it, particularly as whatever way they choose, they'll annoy someone who feels they've been treated unfairly.
If you're lucky for some of the smaller/less attractive games eg Watford who we've played in recent years they could possibly go to general sale, but certainly anyone like Spurs, Chelsea etc, unfortunately I'd say forget it if you're not a season ticket holder (and even then I expect a home season ticket on it's own may not be enough for some games, you may have to be a BWF member too, but at this stage it's unclear as to how they'll do it). As I said, whatever way they choose, they'll annoy someone somewhere.
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Post by ozterrier on Jun 7, 2017 14:31:28 GMT 1
So if I were to come over for a visit next season, my chances of getting a ticket to any game - home or away - are pretty slim then?
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Post by irverino on Jun 7, 2017 14:38:56 GMT 1
Wait till next week, ie, Palace away on Monday NF you should be Ok!
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Post by townatheart on Jun 7, 2017 14:40:29 GMT 1
So if I were to come over for a visit next season, my chances of getting a ticket to any game - home or away - are pretty slim then? well if you are wearing that hat then yep you can forget it
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 7, 2017 14:44:16 GMT 1
however they do it, it wont suit many..
season card holders/blue and white and patrons will get the first dibs i assume..
there could be scope for an away ticket section for a small remuneration but we are now in the greedy league and those that pay more will expect more..
other than entering into a financially binding deal with the club to buy so many away tickets(once the fixtures come out-sky changes notwithstanding) I dont see any other way than offering them to those that put in more money to 'this club'...
we may well be the best community club but its still a business and we have to scrape every penny into the pot we can to even try to compete..
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Post by Sio on Jun 7, 2017 14:47:47 GMT 1
Our top tier priority holders are likely to exceed the allocation (around 3000 at most), and then you'd have to get through SC holders before they got to general sale. But there's still plenty of southern games where I can't see us selling close to the allocation - Brighton, Southampton, Swansea etc. Really doubt we'll sell out these games unless we happen to have an incredible season.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 7, 2017 14:55:44 GMT 1
It's unquestionably going to be more difficult to get tickets for away games next season for me, but I accept it's a consequence of going up. I'm not going to get upset about it because there are some fans (Chris Eastwood for one) on here that probably haven't missed a game for years. She'll deserve a ticket for Chelsea away more than I do. I have a ST so I'll see most, if not all, home games. A lot will depend on WHEN we play teams away - Palace on a Monday night? Shouldn't be a problem.
Arsenal v Town sold out? No worries, I'll go watch AFC Wimbledon or Crawley or Exeter. Not the same but I'll enjoy it.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jun 7, 2017 15:11:29 GMT 1
A mate of mine has already asked me if theres any chance of me getting tickets for me and him to go see Town at Anfield. I've told him not to hold his breath. One of his drinking buddies is a long term Liverpool fan so we could all go together but sit in different sections. The Liverpool fan doesn't have a season ticket so never gets to see them away at big clubs as hes too far down the pecking order.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 7, 2017 15:12:16 GMT 1
It's unquestionably going to be more difficult to get tickets for away games next season for me, but I accept it's a consequence of going up. I'm not going to get upset about it because there are some fans (Chris Eastwood for one) on here that probably haven't missed a game for years. She'll deserve a ticket for Chelsea away more than I do. I have a ST so I'll see most, if not all, home games. A lot will depend on WHEN we play teams away - Palace on a Monday night? Shouldn't be a problem.
Arsenal v Town sold out? No worries, I'll go watch AFC Wimbledon or Crawley or Exeter. Not the same but I'll enjoy it.
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Post by londonterrier23 on Jun 7, 2017 15:18:40 GMT 1
Dayum....
Thanks for all your thoughts tho. Very much appreciated. I expect I will find myself in a few home ends and corporate seats then this season. Gutted as I much prefer to be with the atmosphere.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 15:26:31 GMT 1
Dayum.... Thanks for all your thoughts tho. Very much appreciated. I expect I will find myself in a few home ends and corporate seats then this season. Gutted as I much prefer to be with the atmosphere. #UTt You'll always have friends that can get you tickets with friends and family season card numbers
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 7, 2017 15:34:19 GMT 1
All you glory boys and daytrippers get to the back of the queue for tickets, I come first, I've been schlepping up and down the land watching the drivel served up for years, I'm off to Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool before you fly by night fans.
Joking aside, I'm assuming there will be a strict pecking order but to be fair though am I that bothered about watching us get spanked at the Emirates and Stamford Bridge? Maybe not. I'd rather go to Watford or Swansea and see us with a chance of winning that getting clobbered at the big boys.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 16:02:07 GMT 1
So if I were to come over for a visit next season, my chances of getting a ticket to any game - home or away - are pretty slim then? I'd say your chances of getting a ticket for ANY home game are 100%. You might need to leverage a local for the 7 high priority games, but any other fixture you should be able to get a ticket easy.
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Post by muffinman on Jun 7, 2017 16:04:58 GMT 1
Been chatting with mates who support premier league teams. All have offered up spare tickets for me to sit in the home end.
Never done it but it sounds like hell. Wouldn't be able to sit on my hands like others do.
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Post by londonterrier23 on Jun 7, 2017 16:15:42 GMT 1
Dayum.... Thanks for all your thoughts tho. Very much appreciated. I expect I will find myself in a few home ends and corporate seats then this season. Gutted as I much prefer to be with the atmosphere. #UTt You'll always have friends that can get you tickets with friends and family season card numbers I hope so 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
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Post by londonterrier23 on Jun 7, 2017 16:21:14 GMT 1
All you glory boys and daytrippers get to the back of the queue for tickets, I come first, I've been schlepping up and down the land watching the drivel served up for years, I'm off to Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool before you fly by night fans. Joking aside, I'm assuming there will be a strict pecking order but to be fair though am I that bothered about watching us get spanked at the Emirates and Stamford Bridge? Maybe not. I'd rather go to Watford or Swansea and see us with a chance of winning that getting clobbered at the big boys. Ha ha. You got me with the first paragraph.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 9:44:50 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared.
The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon.
It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans.
Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games.
I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket.
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Post by Sedgeterrier on Jun 14, 2017 9:57:08 GMT 1
Anybody know what allocation Palace give away fans?
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Post by dewsburyborn on Jun 14, 2017 9:58:49 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared. The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon. It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans. Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games. I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket. they have the data of who they sold away tickets to - whether they use it, or not ..... (does, for instance, Stevenage or Dagenham away on a Tuesday night get more brownie points than Barnsley away on a Saturday?)
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 14, 2017 10:02:52 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared. The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon. It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans. Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games. I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket. they have the data of who they sold away tickets to - whether they use it, or not ..... (does, for instance, Stevenage or Dagenham away on a Tuesday night get more brownie points than Barnsley away on a Saturday?) The ticket system is useless. Ive been on to look at my booking history. Always buy three tickets on my account, one adult two kids, they are all assigned to me. So my kids who have followed with me up and down the land for years have zero history. They both have also been season tickets holders for over 10 years, they don't qualify for a refund being juniors, but seem to have dropped off the radar for being just as loyal as me
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 10:06:10 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared. The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon. It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans. Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games. I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket. they have the data of who they sold away tickets to - whether they use it, or not ..... (does, for instance, Stevenage or Dagenham away on a Tuesday night get more brownie points than Barnsley away on a Saturday?) It's irrelevant because Fulham away 2014 starts you on 1,000,000 points.
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Post by pilks123 on Jun 14, 2017 10:17:03 GMT 1
they have the data of who they sold away tickets to - whether they use it, or not ..... (does, for instance, Stevenage or Dagenham away on a Tuesday night get more brownie points than Barnsley away on a Saturday?) The ticket system is useless. Ive been on to look at my booking history. Always buy three tickets on my account, one adult two kids, they are all assigned to me. So my kids who have followed with me up and down the land for years have zero history. They both have also been season tickets holders for over 10 years, they don't qualify for a refund being juniors, but seem to have dropped off the radar for being just as loyal as me Same applies to myself, I live over in Ireland and bought my Father one of the £149 season tickets as a birthday present. Seemed too good value at the time to miss out. The history has gone on my purchase record despite me never using said ticket. He had a difficult time renewing this season cause as far as the computer is concerned he wasn't a season ticket holder despite having sat in the seat for the majority of games (and had it assigned to him) . Got it sorted eventually but was a lot of hassle to renew.
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Post by dewsburyborn on Jun 14, 2017 10:19:30 GMT 1
they have the data of who they sold away tickets to - whether they use it, or not ..... (does, for instance, Stevenage or Dagenham away on a Tuesday night get more brownie points than Barnsley away on a Saturday?) It's irrelevant because Fulham away 2014 starts you on 1,000,000 points.I'll have some of that too, thank you very much. I wonder if upcoming Austria away x 2 gets any brownie points ?
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jun 14, 2017 10:24:39 GMT 1
Dayum.... Thanks for all your thoughts tho. Very much appreciated. I expect I will find myself in a few home ends and corporate seats then this season. Gutted as I much prefer to be with the atmosphere. #UTt Arsenal away is on a Tuesday night so you should at least get tickets for that...
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 14, 2017 11:01:26 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared. The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon. It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans. Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games. I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket. money coming into the club is 'loyalty'... ? why is it so hard for people to understand this fact... people pay money in wether they go to a particular away game or not.. my relatives live in cornwall, they buy season cards and pay into the B&W every month.. unless you can prove that the majority of B&W members earn more money than the 'majority' of travelling support(who are not B&W members etc) then your 'loyalty' speech holds absolutely no weight at all.. Loyalty is whatever you want to class it as, this club needs every penny and the loyalty of that money coming in is always just as significant as an away fan..
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Post by benhomly on Jun 14, 2017 11:09:44 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared. The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon. It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans. Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games. I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket. money coming into the club is 'loyalty'... ? why is it so hard for people to understand this fact... people pay money in wether they go to a particular away game or not.. my relatives live in cornwall, they buy season cards and pay into the B&W every month.. unless you can prove that the majority of B&W members earn more money than the 'majority' of travelling support(who are not B&W members etc) then your 'loyalty' speech holds absolutely no weight at all.. Loyalty is whatever you want to class it as, this club needs every penny and the loyalty of that money coming in is always just as significant as an away fan..Exactly, and I doubt they'll introduce a loyalty system over and above those subscribing to those organisations or they'll have to prepare themselves for a mass of people unsubscribing to them. Me included, although I do go to a lot of away games as well.
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Post by stevvy on Jun 14, 2017 11:11:53 GMT 1
Either way the club are going to be stuck between a rock and a hard place, as whatever system they choose, they'll piss off someone. They can't win no matter what they do. They likely know that too and will be expecting a torrent of abuse from people who feel that whatever system they choose isn't the best one because it doesn't give them the best chance of getting tickets.
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 14, 2017 11:19:31 GMT 1
Bring in an away card scheme with a points system this year. There's gonna be people whinging but then it's there for good for seasons to come.
Every other club with decent support does this for away games. Don't see how you can complain. Of course the people going regularly to away games should get preference over blue and white foundation for the big games
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2017 11:34:10 GMT 1
I hope the club have been thinking about this properly and are prepared. The only fair way (to me) is a points system – unfortunate that this hasn't been in place for a few years to honour those loyals who have trekked up and down the country (of which I am not one), but they will have to start with one soon. It will mean upsetting people as it will have to start from day 0, but going forward I think it's the fairest system. People will drop away after a while and I'm sure it will be the same people from the past who top our future loyalty board. Would also be great if the club did have some consistent away booking history from last few years that they could start with to appease fans. Not too comfortable with paying for privilege myself – Patrons & B&W Foundation members I get to a point – but ultimately in my eyes nothing should trump loyalty and past attendance history at away games. I'll be jumping in the home end at United (and City) if I can't get an away ticket. money coming into the club is 'loyalty'... ? why is it so hard for people to understand this fact... people pay money in wether they go to a particular away game or not.. my relatives live in cornwall, they buy season cards and pay into the B&W every month.. unless you can prove that the majority of B&W members earn more money than the 'majority' of travelling support(who are not B&W members etc) then your 'loyalty' speech holds absolutely no weight at all.. Loyalty is whatever you want to class it as, this club needs every penny and the loyalty of that money coming in is always just as significant as an away fan.. This isn't about loyalty to the club, it's about away fan loyalty, if you're mixing up the two you're missing the argument. Why should someone who treks up and down the country supporting Town away from home week-in-week-out lose out in priority to someone who hasn't attended any away game so far that season but stumped up a bit of cash at the beginning for the privilege? In my opinion they shouldn't. I'm not saying B&WF and Patrons shouldn't be rewarded, I'm just saying an actual history of away attendance should trump that. Cash for peerages.
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