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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 15:52:22 GMT 1
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 17, 2018 16:09:04 GMT 1
I think it’s Klopp putting out a deflective excuse as to why he didn’t get a look in last season and suddenly is emerging as a contender...to stop all the scousers asking why they didn’t just play him last season instead of the various 3rd rate keepers they persisted with. Would be amazed if he gets in their Premier League squad though, he’s not even close to being top six quality, I vaguely remember Klopp saying similar last year about him having a chance, and i wonder if it’s to fire a warning shot to his other keepers that they have to earn the squad place in summer and help him decide who is number 1 rather than just cruise through pre season. Very strange that Ward hasn't been given a go at some stage last season - wouldn't want Karius and Mingolet in our squad. |
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Post by terriers321 on Jul 17, 2018 16:56:35 GMT 1
I think it’s Klopp putting out a deflective excuse as to why he didn’t get a look in last season and suddenly is emerging as a contender...to stop all the scousers asking why they didn’t just play him last season instead of the various 3rd rate keepers they persisted with. Would be amazed if he gets in their Premier League squad though, he’s not even close to being top six quality, I vaguely remember Klopp saying similar last year about him having a chance, and i wonder if it’s to fire a warning shot to his other keepers that they have to earn the squad place in summer and help him decide who is number 1 rather than just cruise through pre season. Very strange that Ward hasn't been given a go at some stage last season - wouldn't want Karius and Mingolet in our squad. Wards dodgy as. Let’s not let the magic of the playoff saves cloud judgement. Klopp after bringing him back from the loan obviously knows he ain’t good enough. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jul 17, 2018 17:06:09 GMT 1
Very strange that Ward hasn't been given a go at some stage last season - wouldn't want Karius and Mingolet in our squad. Wards dodgy as. Let’s not let the magic of the playoff saves cloud judgement. Klopp after bringing him back from the loan obviously knows he ain’t good enough. Bang on. Folk forget that some were saying Coleman should have a chance during that season. Possibly would have without the 75% clause that Liverpool apparently had. Two massive saves for which we will be eternally grateful but he isn't a Premier League 'keeper for me. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 17, 2018 18:27:23 GMT 1
Very strange that Ward hasn't been given a go at some stage last season - wouldn't want Karius and Mingolet in our squad. Wards dodgy as. Let’s not let the magic of the playoff saves cloud judgement. Klopp after bringing him back from the loan obviously knows he ain’t good enough. Over the span of the season he played for us Ward looks better than Karius and Mingole to me so it surprised me that Klopp didn't see that as well. He has been curiously stubborn in his recognition of what a good keeper is, as he was the season before with the centre halves. Might have cost them a Premier League win and a European Cup win. Still you and Klopp are entitled to your opinions and I'll stick with mine. Of course he should have bought a top class keeper a couple of seasons ago, as he eventually had to do with the centre half. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 17, 2018 20:18:15 GMT 1
I hope he becomes their number one this season, at least that'll mean they'll win fuck all yet again 😂
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 17, 2018 23:15:10 GMT 1
I have no idea how anyone would rather had Coleman start over Ward, other than because of him being our player.
Ward certainly had flaws, but Coleman was very raw, and as for his kicking 🙈 Whether Coleman may eventually be better is another matter.
Hopefully Coleman will go on loan this year and start to get some proper experience.
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Post by arry11 on Jul 18, 2018 0:34:21 GMT 1
I have no idea how anyone would rather had Coleman start over Ward, other than because of him being our player. Ward certainly had flaws, but Coleman was very raw, and as for his kicking 🙈 Whether Coleman may eventually be better is another matter. Hopefully Coleman will go on loan this year and start to get some proper experience. Trouble is he will be classed as a home grown player and unless we add another from elsewhere he will be in the squad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 1:20:18 GMT 1
I think we all saw the massive step up in class when we signed Lossl. Aside from switching off at Brighton and a few hurried kicks he was different gravy all season and in all departments compared to Ward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 1:27:50 GMT 1
Ward was great in the play offs ofcourse but generally I thought he was a weak link in an otherwise impressive championship outfit. There were times when surely Coleman or anyone had to come in to replace him but didn’t due to scousers bullshit loan rules. Not a fan of loan moves and I rarely think they’re worth the forced playing time contracts and it just encourages complacency. The recent exception being A Mooy. A promotion gaining loan spell.
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Post by towntastic on Jul 18, 2018 2:22:38 GMT 1
The ship has sailed, he moved on so did we. To say he was a week link does not stack up, yes he made the odd rick but so has Lossil who im not critical of at all. He couldn't sign for us so we will never know how things would have panned out. I thought Butland looked a better bet than Pickford for the world cup , because Pickford looked like a show pony against us but I was totally wrong the choice was the right one. As for Ward I would buy the guy a pint any day of the week rather than piss on his chips as some want to do. He was part of a team that will be remembered for years to come and although contracted to the scousers looked like he put his heart and soul into the journey we were embarking on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 7:56:10 GMT 1
Ward was great in the play offs ofcourse but generally I thought he was a weak link in an otherwise impressive championship outfit. There were times when surely Coleman or anyone had to come in to replace him but didn’t due to scousers bullshit loan rules. Not a fan of loan moves and I rarely think they’re worth the forced playing time contracts and it just encourages complacency. The recent exception being A Mooy. A promotion gaining loan spell. Without being loaned Kongolo I doubt we would have him now. Rough with the smooth, Mooy may well have had similar conditions in place. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 18, 2018 15:24:00 GMT 1
Ward was great in the play offs ofcourse but generally I thought he was a weak link in an otherwise impressive championship outfit. There were times when surely Coleman or anyone had to come in to replace him but didn’t due to scousers bullshit loan rules. Not a fan of loan moves and I rarely think they’re worth the forced playing time contracts and it just encourages complacency. The recent exception being A Mooy. A promotion gaining loan spell. Without being loaned Kongolo I doubt we would have him now. Rough with the smooth, Mooy may well have had similar conditions in place. How on earth we managed to get Mooy on loan for the season was one almighty bollock dropped by lower end premier league clubs. Towards the end of the season I was trying to mentally take in what it was like to have someone like him playing for us, worried i’d never see it again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 15:45:28 GMT 1
Without being loaned Kongolo I doubt we would have him now. Rough with the smooth, Mooy may well have had similar conditions in place. How on earth we managed to get Mooy on loan for the season was one almighty bollock dropped by lower end premier league clubs. Towards the end of the season I was trying to mentally take in what it was like to have someone like him playing for us, worried i’d never see it again. Don’t you think we’re a bit blue tinted though?? How many lower end Premier League clubs would he have actually improved? If anything, playing him would have weakened a lot of teams. He’s good, and he provided a solid confident grounding that was the bedrock of our Championship play, but he’s not really special at all in context of the Premier League, even amongst the expected bottom end clubs. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 18, 2018 15:53:21 GMT 1
How on earth we managed to get Mooy on loan for the season was one almighty bollock dropped by lower end premier league clubs. Towards the end of the season I was trying to mentally take in what it was like to have someone like him playing for us, worried i’d never see it again. Don’t you think we’re a bit blue tinted though?? How many lower end Premier League clubs would he have actually improved? If anything, playing him would have weakened a lot of teams. He’s good, and he provided a solid confident grounding that was the bedrock of our Championship play, but he’s not really special at all in context of the Premier League, even amongst the expected bottom end clubs. How would he have weakened Sunderland, Middlesbrough, Hull, Watford, Burnley, Swansea, Palace, Stoke, West Brom or Bournemouth? |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 18, 2018 15:54:55 GMT 1
How on earth we managed to get Mooy on loan for the season was one almighty bollock dropped by lower end premier league clubs. Towards the end of the season I was trying to mentally take in what it was like to have someone like him playing for us, worried i’d never see it again. Don’t you think we’re a bit blue tinted though?? How many lower end Premier League clubs would he have actually improved? If anything, playing him would have weakened a lot of teams. He’s good, and he provided a solid confident grounding that was the bedrock of our Championship play, but he’s not really special at all in context of the Premier League, even amongst the expected bottom end clubs. It’s a matter of opinions but i’d still say he was one of our best players. It’s only a matter of weeks since there were rumours of West Ham interested, and of Man city looking to bring him back to flip for more money. To say He was available on loan for a season I think was a huge anomaly we thankfully took advantage of. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2018 16:22:58 GMT 1
^^^Oh without doubt he was one of our better players across the entire season.
We and he were however pretty rubbish in comparison to most of the other teams, most of the time!
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Post by johnny_b on Jul 19, 2018 12:35:46 GMT 1
Going to Leicester for £10m. So wonder where Kasper is going? Surely Danny is not going there to sit on the bench.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 19, 2018 12:37:23 GMT 1
Going to Leicester for £10m. So wonder where Kasper is going? Surely Danny is not going there to sit on the bench. I haven't seen much of Hamer but is he seriously not as good as Ward 😱 |
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Post by pawsterrier on Jul 19, 2018 13:14:08 GMT 1
Going to Leicester for £10m. So wonder where Kasper is going? Surely Danny is not going there to sit on the bench. I haven't seen much of Hamer but is he seriously not as good as Ward 😱 Schmeichel is likely Alisson's replacement at Roma. |
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Post by pawsterrier on Jul 19, 2018 13:15:47 GMT 1
great bit of business by Klopp. he's got rid of some deadwood (probably harsh, but true nevertheless!) and it's paid for the Shaqiri transfer.
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Post by AndySk on Jul 19, 2018 13:22:41 GMT 1
£10mill for a Goalie who's had one decent season at Championship level. Ok.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 19, 2018 13:28:51 GMT 1
£10mill for a Goalie who's had one decent season at Championship level. Ok. I wouldn't even say a decent season. Yes he absolutely shone in the Play-offs and in the build up to them, but for the majority of the season up to that point he was bang average. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 13:33:54 GMT 1
great bit of business by Klopp. he's got rid of some deadwood (probably harsh, but true nevertheless!) and it's paid for the Shaqiri transfer. Theyve signed Shaqiri ?! 🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 13:48:52 GMT 1
£10mill for a Goalie who's had one decent season at Championship level. Ok. I wouldn't even say a decent season. Yes he absolutely shone in the Play-offs and in the build up to them, but for the majority of the season up to that point he was bang average. Rarely came for crosses even in the 6 yard box, backed out of 50 50 challenges with opponents clear on goal, mis-judged when and when not to leave his line. He did however make a few absolutely outstanding reflex saves and will always be remembered for his contribution especially in the penalties. 10 million? nah
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 19, 2018 14:05:42 GMT 1
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Post by Galpharmer on Jul 19, 2018 14:07:22 GMT 1
Ten million pounds. Jesus.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 14:11:32 GMT 1
Ten million pounds. Jesus. I read that as £12 million. Another season on the bench, nowhere near Kaspers level. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Jul 19, 2018 14:22:26 GMT 1
Ten million pounds. Jesus. I read that as £12 million. Another season on the bench, nowhere near Kaspers level. Twelve million pounds. Jesus. |
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Post by golcarexile on Jul 19, 2018 14:26:57 GMT 1
Surely Kasper is on his way. Jakupovic was back-up last season. Hamer was third choice. I like Danny and wish him all the best, but 12m is silly money. How much did Cardiff pay for Smithies?
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