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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 0:31:27 GMT 1
NBC called us a tiny club in their interview with Wagner and said we had a tiny team.Wrong.We have a tiny budget compared to the rest of the Premier League but were a bigger club than a few others in the Premier League and have potential to be a Middle Sized club in the not too distant future if we can cement a position in the Premier League within the next few years.At least in their other interview they did on the club NBC talked of the triple Championship,but no mention of the 5 FA Cup Finals or that because of our lack of backing which they did do well in mentioning our Managers Shankly and Chapman who we had first went off to set up 2 Clubs Liverpool and arsenla from the Giant creatiung cities they mentioned IE London, Manchester and Liverpool.
NBC s attitude of sayign were a tiny club with a tiny team and not picking up on a lot of our histiory or our record gate of 67,000 and great crowds especially away from home over the decades which we are well known for amongst English support across the land is indicative of the short term sight that many commnetatiors and younger fans everywhere have that they can't see passed basing things just on events in the last few decades.
If they picked up on some of those other things , and looked at the size of our crowds now they'd see we are a larger club than a few in the Premier League with the potential to become a Middle Sized club in the not too distant future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 0:43:04 GMT 1
Americans love a zero to hero story, especially when it involves one of their own in Wagner.
The truth about our history doesn't fit into their desired backstory.
We are no different to other lower EPL sides in terms of size, and are far above the average of these teams in regards to achievements.
We've just been shit and underfunded for a few decades, thats all.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Oct 20, 2017 1:35:55 GMT 1
I think you're being over sensitive - it was a good show.
Over here they have little knowledge of any team outside of the Prem - thats just the way it is - in that regard we are a tiny club compared to who most support - you won't be surprised to hear its the usual big clubs.
The only thing wrong with the show was the bellend of a presenter - he's on a show called 'men in blazers' and its truly wank.
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Post by RickDangerous on Oct 20, 2017 7:23:59 GMT 1
Compared to tomorrows opponents we are. Once upon a time one of these boys in the fa cup would be the highlight of our season!
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Post by Marco4 on Oct 20, 2017 7:37:17 GMT 1
How can you possibly measure the 'size' of a club? Their fanbase, yes. Their trophy cabinet, yes. The recent league positions, yes. The value of their team, yes. Is the size a composite of all these factors and many more? Is it an exact number? Is it just an excuse for endless internet wittering because there can be no exact answer? Does it matter?
Are Sheffield United 6.2? Are Barnsley 7.3? Are Tooting and Mitcham 2.4?
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 20, 2017 8:01:35 GMT 1
I thought it was good and quite flattering, portraying Huddersfield as a quaint little market town amidst the glorious Yorkshire countryside. We've certainly had much worse ... if ever we got a run in the cup enough to justify an appearance on Football Focus the BBC were straight into the "dark, satanic mills" cliches and how grim it was oop north.
The small angle just made it a better story for viewers and may even gain us the odd extra US fan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 8:03:16 GMT 1
Compared to tomorrows opponents we are. Once upon a time one of these boys in the fa cup would be the highlight of our season! Once upon a time that is something that applied to nearly half the teams in the present Premier League. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 20, 2017 8:30:36 GMT 1
FOR FUCKS SAKE CANT WE JUST ENJOY THIS ? The chip on the shoulder mentality, combined with armchair experts who know more about formations than the best Manager in our lifetime, combined with folk who sneer at people who after 45 years of Grimsby and Gillingham are “happy to be here “ is turning this board bad
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 8:35:59 GMT 1
I think Wagner plays on it a bit as it makes what we have achieved seem even better.
Underdogs: Yes (due to the smaller budget)
Small Club: No fucking way (bigger than a handful of clubs in the premier league)
I don't also get Wagners comments about us being the biggest underdogs ever in the premier league. What about Blackpool when they got promoted with 70 points after being favourites to go down to league 1?
I'll take the underdog tag, but a club with good support, good history and has spent a third of it's history in the top flight is not a small club. We weren't a small club when we were in league 2, so how all of a sudden are we regarded as small? No logic in that.
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Post by Sio on Oct 20, 2017 8:51:27 GMT 1
I think Wagner plays on it a bit as it makes what we have achieved seem even better. Underdogs: Yes (due to the smaller budget) Small Club: No fucking way (bigger than a handful of clubs in the premier league) I don't also get Wagners comments about us being the biggest underdogs ever in the premier league. What about Blackpool when they got promoted with 70 points after being favourites to go down to league 1? I'll take the underdog tag, but a club with good support, good history and has spent a third of it's history in the top flight is not a small club. We weren't a small club when we were in league 2, so how all of a sudden are we regarded as small? No logic in that. Agreed. Don't particularly mind it but Wagner - and a lot of our own fans too - have definitely hyped up this 'small club' thing since we got to the Prem. In reality we're a mid-lower Championship club and far from a 'small' club. Plenty of current and ex Prem teams have a similar stature to us, if not smaller. Our achievement last season relative to our budget was fantastic, but there have been other stories like ours, and there will be again. All a bit odd but as mentioned above, it plays into this underdog story, and I think Wagner likes that. |
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Post by artysid on Oct 20, 2017 9:32:52 GMT 1
Compared to tomorrows opponents we are. Once upon a time one of these boys in the fa cup would be the highlight of our season! One upon a time, Huddersfield Town in the FA Cup would have been the highlight of any Clubs season!! |
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 20, 2017 9:34:44 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 9:42:26 GMT 1
How can you possibly measure the 'size' of a club? Their fanbase, yes. Their trophy cabinet, yes. The recent league positions, yes. The value of their team, yes. Is the size a composite of all these factors and many more? Is it an exact number? Is it just an excuse for endless internet wittering because there can be no exact answer? Does it matter? Are Sheffield United 6.2? Are Barnsley 7.3? Are Tooting and Mitcham 2.4? Reputation isn't just football or sport specific. Life cannot be broken down into numbers alone. Not being able to put a precise value on sizes of clubs does not mean it isn't possible to gauge whether a club is bigger or smaller than another. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 10:01:50 GMT 1
FOR FUCKS SAKE CANT WE JUST ENJOY THIS ? The chip on the shoulder mentality, combined with armchair experts who know more about formations than the best Manager in our lifetime, combined with folk who sneer at people who after 45 years of Grimsby and Gillingham are “happy to be here “ is turning this board bad Absolutely, who isn’t happy to be here? so long as we don’t have that attitude on the pitch and continue to panic and gift the points. There’s every chance we could stay in this league this year. Every chance. Win with joy and lose with anger. |
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Post by Marco4 on Oct 20, 2017 10:17:34 GMT 1
How can you possibly measure the 'size' of a club? Their fanbase, yes. Their trophy cabinet, yes. The recent league positions, yes. The value of their team, yes. Is the size a composite of all these factors and many more? Is it an exact number? Is it just an excuse for endless internet wittering because there can be no exact answer? Does it matter? Are Sheffield United 6.2? Are Barnsley 7.3? Are Tooting and Mitcham 2.4? Reputation isn't just football or sport specific. Life cannot be broken down into numbers alone. Not being able to put a precise value on sizes of clubs does not mean it isn't possible to gauge whether a club is bigger or smaller than another. But how can they be 'bigger'? What rationale do you use to decide? In other words, for clubs to be able to be 'big' or 'small' there has to be a scale. Seeing as there is no consensus on what this scale is, then its all a bit of a nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 10:18:54 GMT 1
One common error in there. Law signed as a 15 year old in April 1955. Pedantic I know.  |
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Post by towny on Oct 20, 2017 11:20:03 GMT 1
think we're bigger than
watford
burnley
southampton
swansea
brighton
west ham
stoke
leicester
bournmouth
crystal
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Post by artysid on Oct 20, 2017 11:31:40 GMT 1
think we're bigger than watford burnley southamptonswansea brighton west ham
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leicesterbournmouth crystal |
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Post by ozterrier on Oct 20, 2017 12:28:13 GMT 1
I think you're being over sensitive - it was a good show. Over here they have little knowledge of any team outside of the Prem - thats just the way it is - in that regard we are a tiny club compared to who most support - you won't be surprised to hear its the usual big clubs. The only thing wrong with the show was the bellend of a presenter - he's on a show called 'men in blazers' and its truly wank. Men in Blazers is woeful, but I thought that guy did a really good job on all the 3 Promoted shows. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 13:00:38 GMT 1
Reputation isn't just football or sport specific. Life cannot be broken down into numbers alone. Not being able to put a precise value on sizes of clubs does not mean it isn't possible to gauge whether a club is bigger or smaller than another. But how can they be 'bigger'? What rationale do you use to decide? In other words, for clubs to be able to be 'big' or 'small' there has to be a scale. Seeing as there is no consensus on what this scale is, then its all a bit of a nonsense. Imagine a game of top trumps. Every team has a card with a series of facts, such as: League champs Runners up FA cup winners FA cup finalists Record attendance Current league position Quite funny really because Leeds couldn't beat Town on any of those. |
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Post by htfc1908 on Oct 20, 2017 13:03:45 GMT 1
This smallest club to grace the Premier league is total bollocks, Barnsley, Bradford, Bournemouth, Bolton, Blackburn, Burnley, Brighton and Blackpool are of similar size or smaller and that's just the B's
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Post by towny on Oct 20, 2017 13:59:07 GMT 1
think we're bigger than watford burnley southamptonswansea brighton west ham
stoke
leicesterbournmouth crystal we have more honours than stoke and southampton |
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Post by Marco4 on Oct 20, 2017 16:38:22 GMT 1
But how can they be 'bigger'? What rationale do you use to decide? In other words, for clubs to be able to be 'big' or 'small' there has to be a scale. Seeing as there is no consensus on what this scale is, then its all a bit of a nonsense. Imagine a game of top trumps. Every team has a card with a series of facts, such as: League champs Runners up FA cup winners FA cup finalists Record attendance Current league position Quite funny really because Leeds couldn't beat Town on any of those. I like the analogy, but it still seems that people can't agree on the categories. |
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Post by nshackle on Oct 21, 2017 10:43:59 GMT 1
I think Wagner plays on it a bit as it makes what we have achieved seem even better. Underdogs: Yes (due to the smaller budget) Small Club: No fucking way (bigger than a handful of clubs in the premier league) I don't also get Wagners comments about us being the biggest underdogs ever in the premier league. What about Blackpool when they got promoted with 70 points after being favourites to go down to league 1?
I'll take the underdog tag, but a club with good support, good history and has spent a third of it's history in the top flight is not a small club. We weren't a small club when we were in league 2, so how all of a sudden are we regarded as small? No logic in that. Yes, and you can throw in Swindon, Barnsley, Bradford, Bolton, Oldham etc. to name but a few. |
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