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Post by htfcsince70 on Jan 20, 2019 18:58:21 GMT 1
What possessed anyone to think that these two could be Premier League footballers is beyond me. What I want to know is who watched them and how many times - that is a genuine question. Both would struggle in the Championship which is physically more demanding. Diakhaby din't look as though he wanted to play from the outset. Hogg must be going mad with the lack of effort and application - even those with limited ability can look as though they are bothered!
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Post by specialun on Jan 20, 2019 19:05:13 GMT 1
What possessed anyone to think that these two could be Premier League footballers is beyond me. What I want to know is who watched them and how many times - that is a genuine question. Both would struggle in the Championship which is physically more demanding. Diakhaby din't look as though he wanted to play from the outset. Hogg must be going mad with the lack of effort and application - even those with limited ability can look as though they are bothered! Get what you pay for! £10m bought you someone with potential who had started 13 games
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 20, 2019 19:46:07 GMT 1
Thought they were both excellent today against a far superior city side.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jan 20, 2019 19:53:18 GMT 1
Talksport said there are better players in the national league than Diakhaby. Talksport? You mean Talkshite surely?
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Post by salendiner on Jan 20, 2019 19:53:31 GMT 1
Thought they were both excellent today against a far superior city side. The only city player to get out of 1st gear today was walker and that’s because of Mbenza positivity, thought he had a decent game
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Post by blackmoreisgod on Jan 20, 2019 19:59:59 GMT 1
Diakhaby won't make a footballer as long as there's a hole in his arse. The problems as I see it - poor first touch, physically weak in comparison to other players - easily knocked off the ball, doesn't appear to know where he is on the pitch, doesn't appear to be able to work to the dimensions of the pitch, weak in the air, needs the ball playing in front of him rather than to feet, doesn't appear to be able to play with his back to goal. £8million fee? Really? Never mind Roberts or Pilkington - Scannell, Quaner, Bunn and Ward would offer more threat. As for getting rid of Lolley and Ince for him don't even start...
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Post by Russlad on Jan 20, 2019 20:07:09 GMT 1
Agree that I can see a player in Mbenza somewhere after today, he showed glimpses. Diakhaby shite.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 20, 2019 20:14:41 GMT 1
What possessed anyone to think that these two could be Premier League footballers is beyond me. What I want to know is who watched them and how many times - that is a genuine question. Both would struggle in the Championship which is physically more demanding. Diakhaby din't look as though he wanted to play from the outset. Hogg must be going mad with the lack of effort and application - even those with limited ability can look as though they are bothered! I'll remind you of this when Mbenza proves you wrong. I was wrong about him, wrote him off after that ridiculous finish against Fulham, but I'd now say he's one of the most talented players in our squad and he'll show it the more game time he gets. Not often you get wingers as quick as he is whose brains can keep up with their feet. He just needs to sharpen up his decision making which will come with more confidence which is why I hope he sticks around for the Championship because he'll take the piss
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 20:33:26 GMT 1
That's the thing though, they are ok and that's all they are. Diakhaby and Mbenza have pace but that's all they have. Now I know we played top class opposition today but they just ran down blind alleys and lost possession more often than not. They gave us an outlet we’ve been missing. Lots of pace from both and genuine positive play. Mbenza consistently skinned the supposed fastest right back in the country. I came away feeling positive about both of their contributions, especially as they’ve had so little game time to date. Agree both did ok and some on here really should watch the game they stretched city well at times.
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Post by k1man999 on Jan 20, 2019 20:43:24 GMT 1
Diakhaby looked like bambi on ice at times but did show a few decent touches although are the pitches wider in France as he did take the ball out on a few occasions. Mbenza looks like there is a good player in there he puts some good pacey crosses in a bit more confidence and direction then he could fly. Both though look like they have been to the super col school of heading.
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Post by Champers on Jan 20, 2019 20:56:31 GMT 1
Thought Diakhaby showed a bit of promise myself, particularly first half. Quick feet and tried to make things happen, just didn't come off for him. We were playing Man City though, they press well and cut space down quickly. Faded badly in the second half, but that has to be expected given he hasn't started a game since Everton away in September.
I'm not ready to give up on him yet. I do think we've paid too much for him, but I'd like to see a bit more of what he's got against lesser teams than City. He gives us an outlet and if he gets the ball past the full back there's not many who could match him for pace.
Definitely a player in Mbenza. He just needs games.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:25:10 GMT 1
Thought Diakhaby showed a bit of promise myself, particularly first half. Quick feet and tried to make things happen, just didn't come off for him. We were playing Man City though, they press well and cut space down quickly. Faded badly in the second half, but that has to be expected given he hasn't started a game since Everton away in September. I'm not ready to give up on him yet. I do think we've paid too much for him, but I'd like to see a bit more of what he's got against lesser teams than City. He gives us an outlet and if he gets the ball past the full back there's not many who could match him for pace. Definitely a player in Mbenza. He just needs games. good post and I agree with your view overall
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Post by marshterrier on Jan 20, 2019 21:29:16 GMT 1
Echo Mbenza comments - he will benefit from more game time. Electric pace, whips in good crosses but cant head it and gives the ball away cheaply. Not sure about Diakhaby - think he needs more game time - neither looks like a centre forward - no goal threat - neither seems to know how to win the ball in the air. Boothy please show them how to head the ball...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:35:52 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the Mbenza situation is?
Our usual arrangement is season-long loan with first refusal on buying. Can we / would we turn this down if relegated (I'd have thought Dean would have put plenty of cast iron clauses in).
What are the chances of him starting next season?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 20, 2019 21:37:29 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the Mbenza situation is? Our usual arrangement is season-long loan with first refusal on buying. Can we / would we turn this down if relegated (I'd have thought Dean would have put plenty of cast iron clauses in). What are the chances of him starting next season? Montpellier fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:44:41 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the Mbenza situation is? Our usual arrangement is season-long loan with first refusal on buying. Can we / would we turn this down if relegated (I'd have thought Dean would have put plenty of cast iron clauses in). What are the chances of him starting next season? Montpellier Monaco fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer And I'm guessing the club is going to want to be reimbursed at least the £9m they paid for him. Bugger.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 20, 2019 21:46:58 GMT 1
Montpellier Monaco fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer And I'm guessing the club is going to want to be reimbursed at least the £9m they paid for him. Bugger. Your post was about Mbenza. He came from Montpellier not Monaco
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Post by Champers on Jan 20, 2019 21:49:58 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the Mbenza situation is? Our usual arrangement is season-long loan with first refusal on buying. Can we / would we turn this down if relegated (I'd have thought Dean would have put plenty of cast iron clauses in). What are the chances of him starting next season? Montpellier fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer Whilst the reported figure we'd have to pay would be steep, his pace would rip the arse out of the Championship. I think there'll be clauses in there which mean we aren't obligated though. I can't see anyone at the club being daft enough to not have planned for the worst.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:50:01 GMT 1
And I'm guessing the club is going to want to be reimbursed at least the £9m they paid for him. Bugger. Your post was about Mbenza. He came from Montpellier not Monaco True. He did. Brainfart from me thinking about Diakhaby. Apologies; I'm a cock.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 20, 2019 21:50:39 GMT 1
Talksport said there are better players in the national league than Diakhaby. Turning the radio off is better than having Talkshite on if the 10 minutes I was unfortunate to have to listen too on my way home last night is anything to go by 🤔
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Post by turbo2 on Jan 20, 2019 21:52:40 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the Mbenza situation is? Our usual arrangement is season-long loan with first refusal on buying. Can we / would we turn this down if relegated (I'd have thought Dean would have put plenty of cast iron clauses in). What are the chances of him starting next season? Montpellier fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer I hope that’s rubbish. Cos he’s poor. Can’t believe we got rid of ince and lolley ( neither of which were good enough) and replaced them with IM AD MS. It literally is unbelievable how poor the three of them have been.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:56:46 GMT 1
Montpellier fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer I hope that’s rubbish. Cos he’s poor. Can’t believe we got rid of ince and lolley ( neither of which were good enough) and replaced them with IM AD MS. It literally is unbelievable how poor the three of them have been. But he's probably the most promising of the three. If he's the one we lose, that's a double kick in the balls.
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Post by htfcsince70 on Jan 20, 2019 21:59:40 GMT 1
Montpellier fans were adamant that it was a loan for tax reasons and the deal was that it had to be made permanent this summer Whilst the reported figure we'd have to pay would be steep, his pace would rip the arse out of the Championship. I think there'll be clauses in there which mean we aren't obligated though. I can't see anyone at the club being daft enough to not have planned for the worst. Usain Bolt would rip the arses of most Championship teams in terms of pace but it doesnt make him a footballer. I hope that I am wrong - and that my opinion is thrown back at me - I just don't see it in him.To be fair his delivery has improved and it is a threat but for that sort of money - money I never thought I would see spent on a player for Huddersfield Town I expect a bit more than pace and the odd decent delivery. Again, I hope I am wrong and would be happy to be so!
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Post by wigster on Jan 20, 2019 23:54:36 GMT 1
Whilst the reported figure we'd have to pay would be steep, his pace would rip the arse out of the Championship. I think there'll be clauses in there which mean we aren't obligated though. I can't see anyone at the club being daft enough to not have planned for the worst. Usain Bolt would rip the arses of most Championship teams in terms of pace but it doesnt make him a footballer. I hope that I am wrong - and that my opinion is thrown back at me - I just don't see it in him.To be fair his delivery has improved and it is a threat but for that sort of money - money I never thought I would see spent on a player for Huddersfield Town I expect a bit more than pace and the odd decent delivery. Again, I hope I am wrong and would be happy to be so! Couldn't agree more - whilst accepting that they haven't played much what I've seen has been so disappointing. They ARE quick - and that's it. It also looked to me that Diakhaby gave up in the second half. Mbenza shows the occasional glimpse of talent but that's all - surely we should expect so much more. Apart from "the" cross weeks ago he has done nothing to affect a match. The thought of either representing us on a cold wet November night away at Sheffield in the Championship depresses me.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 21, 2019 0:13:17 GMT 1
Mbenza you can see the potential in, and while he's nowhere near PL quality yet, you can see the improvement with each game.
Diakhaby, I don't like writing any player off but my god he is fucking awful, and I don't really know what else there is to say about him. You never know though, he is still relatively young and sometimes players can undergo a bit of a transformation. Let's see what the new manager makes of him.
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Post by impact on Jan 21, 2019 0:32:17 GMT 1
I can see something in Mbenza. Apart from being able to run quickly, I can't see anything in Diakhaby.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 0:38:56 GMT 1
Diakhaby is still very young. You can't write someone off just yet at that age. Mooy wasn't really good at that age. He developed over time and look at him now. If he was 28 I'd be worried
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 21, 2019 7:58:48 GMT 1
Jesus this is how desperate we have become and that we've been starved if decent attacking players that these two are thought of as the answer or that some fans can 'see something in them'. These guys are dire, they should never have been signed. French football must be utter crap if these guys are considered top class standard. These two are the epitome of what's gone wrong at Town this season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 8:48:48 GMT 1
Mbenza you can see the potential in, and while he's nowhere near PL quality yet, you can see the improvement with each game. Diakhaby, I don't like writing any player off but my god he is fucking awful, and I don't really know what else there is to say about him. You never know though, he is still relatively young and sometimes players can undergo a bit of a transformation. Let's see what the new manager makes of him. He's played about four games, how the fuck can you judge him on that?
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Post by k1man999 on Jan 21, 2019 8:52:39 GMT 1
Wolves spent circa 18m on a guy that can run quick and not much else.that most on here wanted to sign. The only difference between them is a bit of upper body strength. Both same age
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