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Post by space hardware on Dec 3, 2018 19:21:54 GMT 1
It's the Proud Terriers that have reported it all isn't it? Doesn't surprise me if so. Who are they?
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Post by El Mel on Dec 3, 2018 19:41:01 GMT 1
It's the Proud Terriers that have reported it all isn't it? Doesn't surprise me if so. Who are they? Supporters group representing the LGBT section of our fans.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 3, 2018 19:42:57 GMT 1
Never heard of em.
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Post by El Mel on Dec 3, 2018 19:46:28 GMT 1
Yeah. I guess a lot of folk haven't. I became aware of them when I was involved in the Cowshed Loyal. They had just set up and got a flag made, and were hitting social media with photographs etc.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 3, 2018 20:04:37 GMT 1
Supporters group representing the LGBT section of our fans. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I see, I know who that is now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 20:05:47 GMT 1
How many threads do we need on this shit. Its a non story and just another excuse to winge
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 11:44:41 GMT 1
Are they the dyslexic sandwich appreciation society - and is the G for Gherkin. Could never work that out.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Dec 4, 2018 16:44:19 GMT 1
Brighton fans ( not all of them if course ) just as the vast majority of teams we play chant "Sheep shaggers" at us, the implication being that as fans of a West Yorkshire team from a town and an area that was once known for its thriving woollen industry we are all prone to beastiality. Personally I've never taken offence at it and am unaware of anyone that ever has, it's plainly silly. Is it more or less so than the implication that all the fans of BHA, football team from Sussex that is widely regarded as the "gay capital " of England are all male and all homosexual? Is there a single Brighton fan, gay or straight that was offended or upset by the few chants aimed their way ? Would the same chants be ok when we play other teams, Spurs Man Utd etc that don't have the gay link ? Football fans have come a long way from the 70s and 80s, some more so than others and a handful will probably never get there but I really think there are more things to worry about than a few chants hurled last Saturday and that in no way is my condoning genuinely homophobic behaviour. In the last hour the news on the radio has announced that a woman from New Zeland has LOST her court case brought against her work colleagues in her adopted homeland of Australia. She alleged they were racist towards her by calling her a Kiwi, the judge said that was nonsense. Agree with a lot of that but Chanting sheep shaggers isn't comparable to chanting going down on your boyfriend and everyone laughing about it. If there is someone in the crowd who does actually shag a sheep then they should be ashamed of it, it's illegal. If there is someone in the crowd or a group of people who are actually gay and go down on there boyfriend then a huge group of people chanting it and laughing about the Brighton fans being gay because its an insult is completely different imo. And saying stand up if you support town is offensive to disabled people isn't comparable either. It isn't related to being disabled at all and nobody is laughing about someone being disabled or unable to stand up. I understand the chant is tongue in cheek but it is similar to say if people started chanting about Pakistanis if we were playing Bradford in a derogatory way, would anyone do it and laugh about it? Doubt it and just because its funny or not meant to cause offense doesn't mean it doesn't cause offense to that group of people. A lot of things have gone too far imo, the sexism and feminism debate really is getting on my nerves at the moment. But this story is an example really of ignorance to what people are actually singing and laughing about. The spurs fan who threw a banana on the pitch, maybe he just found it funny and that aubemenyang liked banans. Doubt it. Would you do any of these behaviours in the street? I don't think so, so why should they be acceptable in a group of people including all groups of people at a football match? I heard someone shout fa**ot towards the ref on Saturday. A few people around me twitched a bit at that but nobody said anything. Its similar again, is that acceptable, he probably didn't mean offence to gay people saying it but it's meant to be a derogatory insult and you wouldn't shout out a racial slur towards the ref anymore would you?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:49:25 GMT 1
Brighton fans ( not all of them if course ) just as the vast majority of teams we play chant "Sheep shaggers" at us, the implication being that as fans of a West Yorkshire team from a town and an area that was once known for its thriving woollen industry we are all prone to beastiality. Personally I've never taken offence at it and am unaware of anyone that ever has, it's plainly silly. Is it more or less so than the implication that all the fans of BHA, football team from Sussex that is widely regarded as the "gay capital " of England are all male and all homosexual? Is there a single Brighton fan, gay or straight that was offended or upset by the few chants aimed their way ? Would the same chants be ok when we play other teams, Spurs Man Utd etc that don't have the gay link ? Football fans have come a long way from the 70s and 80s, some more so than others and a handful will probably never get there but I really think there are more things to worry about than a few chants hurled last Saturday and that in no way is my condoning genuinely homophobic behaviour. In the last hour the news on the radio has announced that a woman from New Zeland has LOST her court case brought against her work colleagues in her adopted homeland of Australia. She alleged they were racist towards her by calling her a Kiwi, the judge said that was nonsense. Agree with a lot of that but Chanting sheep shaggers isn't comparable to chanting going down on your boyfriend and everyone laughing about it. If there is someone in the crowd who does actually shag a sheep then they should be ashamed of it, it's illegal. If there is someone in the crowd or a group of people who are actually gay and go down on there boyfriend then a huge group of people chanting it and laughing about the Brighton fans being gay because its an insult is completely different imo. And saying stand up if you support town is offensive to disabled people isn't comparable either. It isn't related to being disabled at all and nobody is laughing about someone being disabled or unable to stand up. I understand the chant is tongue in cheek but it is similar to say if people started chanting about Pakistanis if we were playing Bradford in a derogatory way, would anyone do it and laugh about it? Doubt it and just because its funny or not meant to cause offense doesn't mean it doesn't cause offense to that group of people. A lot of things have gone too far imo, the sexism and feminism debate really is getting on my nerves at the moment. But this story is an example really of ignorance to what people are actually singing and laughing about. The spurs fan who threw a banana on the pitch, maybe he just found it funny and that aubemenyang liked banans. Doubt it. Would you do any of these behaviours in the street? I don't think so, so why should they be acceptable in a group of people including all groups of people at a football match? I heard someone shout fa**ot towards the ref on Saturday. A few people around me twitched a bit at that but nobody said anything. Its similar again, is that acceptable, he probably didn't mean offence to gay people saying it but it's meant to be a derogatory insult and you wouldn't shout out a racial slur towards the ref anymore would you?I may have inadvertantly called him a "cheating geordie c***" - do I need to report myself to Crimestoppers
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Post by WirralTerrier on Dec 4, 2018 16:55:21 GMT 1
Agree with a lot of that but Chanting sheep shaggers isn't comparable to chanting going down on your boyfriend and everyone laughing about it. If there is someone in the crowd who does actually shag a sheep then they should be ashamed of it, it's illegal. If there is someone in the crowd or a group of people who are actually gay and go down on there boyfriend then a huge group of people chanting it and laughing about the Brighton fans being gay because its an insult is completely different imo. And saying stand up if you support town is offensive to disabled people isn't comparable either. It isn't related to being disabled at all and nobody is laughing about someone being disabled or unable to stand up. I understand the chant is tongue in cheek but it is similar to say if people started chanting about Pakistanis if we were playing Bradford in a derogatory way, would anyone do it and laugh about it? Doubt it and just because its funny or not meant to cause offense doesn't mean it doesn't cause offense to that group of people. A lot of things have gone too far imo, the sexism and feminism debate really is getting on my nerves at the moment. But this story is an example really of ignorance to what people are actually singing and laughing about. The spurs fan who threw a banana on the pitch, maybe he just found it funny and that aubemenyang liked banans. Doubt it. Would you do any of these behaviours in the street? I don't think so, so why should they be acceptable in a group of people including all groups of people at a football match? I heard someone shout fa**ot towards the ref on Saturday. A few people around me twitched a bit at that but nobody said anything. Its similar again, is that acceptable, he probably didn't mean offence to gay people saying it but it's meant to be a derogatory insult and you wouldn't shout out a racial slur towards the ref anymore would you?I may have inadvertantly called him a "cheating geordie c***" - do I need to report myself to Crimestoppers Not saying anything is a crime, it's what's acceptable in society and football now especially in the grounds is moving way more towards what is acceptable. I'm not fussed to be honest, I'm just bored and find it an interesting subject. If you had your young son with you who was gay and a group of people were laughing and chanting about being gay, would you mind?
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 4, 2018 17:05:34 GMT 1
I've always thought "sheep shaggers" was reserved for playing the likes of Swansea / Cardiff etc, and haven't ever really heard it at Palace games up here. Of course, it's common for us to sing the "Go down pub, drink 10 pints" song, at which point I don't get involved due to usually living further north than where the game is taking place Agree, I think it's the Welsh who mainly get the sheep shagger stuff thrown at them. Most fans from south of the Watford Gap think we all keep whippets, race pigeons and wear flat caps to matches . The shandy supping twats in their pearly suits 😡😁
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 4, 2018 17:09:38 GMT 1
Agree with a lot of that but Chanting sheep shaggers isn't comparable to chanting going down on your boyfriend and everyone laughing about it. If there is someone in the crowd who does actually shag a sheep then they should be ashamed of it, it's illegal. If there is someone in the crowd or a group of people who are actually gay and go down on there boyfriend then a huge group of people chanting it and laughing about the Brighton fans being gay because its an insult is completely different imo. And saying stand up if you support town is offensive to disabled people isn't comparable either. It isn't related to being disabled at all and nobody is laughing about someone being disabled or unable to stand up. I understand the chant is tongue in cheek but it is similar to say if people started chanting about Pakistanis if we were playing Bradford in a derogatory way, would anyone do it and laugh about it? Doubt it and just because its funny or not meant to cause offense doesn't mean it doesn't cause offense to that group of people. A lot of things have gone too far imo, the sexism and feminism debate really is getting on my nerves at the moment. But this story is an example really of ignorance to what people are actually singing and laughing about. The spurs fan who threw a banana on the pitch, maybe he just found it funny and that aubemenyang liked banans. Doubt it. Would you do any of these behaviours in the street? I don't think so, so why should they be acceptable in a group of people including all groups of people at a football match? I heard someone shout fa**ot towards the ref on Saturday. A few people around me twitched a bit at that but nobody said anything. Its similar again, is that acceptable, he probably didn't mean offence to gay people saying it but it's meant to be a derogatory insult and you wouldn't shout out a racial slur towards the ref anymore would you?I may have inadvertantly called him a "cheating geordie c***" - do I need to report myself to Crimestoppers You shouted that as well ?
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Post by oldrain on Dec 4, 2018 17:14:03 GMT 1
The Brighton Argus are calling the fans that chanted as Pure evil!!! Surely that puts them on a level with Hitler, Saddam, Ripper and Margaret Thatcher that can’t be right they all did more than call names
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Post by hd2 on Dec 4, 2018 17:14:48 GMT 1
Agree with a lot of that but Chanting sheep shaggers isn't comparable to chanting going down on your boyfriend and everyone laughing about it. If there is someone in the crowd who does actually shag a sheep then they should be ashamed of it, it's illegal. If there is someone in the crowd or a group of people who are actually gay and go down on there boyfriend then a huge group of people chanting it and laughing about the Brighton fans being gay because its an insult is completely different imo. And saying stand up if you support town is offensive to disabled people isn't comparable either. It isn't related to being disabled at all and nobody is laughing about someone being disabled or unable to stand up. I understand the chant is tongue in cheek but it is similar to say if people started chanting about Pakistanis if we were playing Bradford in a derogatory way, would anyone do it and laugh about it? Doubt it and just because its funny or not meant to cause offense doesn't mean it doesn't cause offense to that group of people. A lot of things have gone too far imo, the sexism and feminism debate really is getting on my nerves at the moment. But this story is an example really of ignorance to what people are actually singing and laughing about. The spurs fan who threw a banana on the pitch, maybe he just found it funny and that aubemenyang liked banans. Doubt it. Would you do any of these behaviours in the street? I don't think so, so why should they be acceptable in a group of people including all groups of people at a football match? I heard someone shout fa**ot towards the ref on Saturday. A few people around me twitched a bit at that but nobody said anything. Its similar again, is that acceptable, he probably didn't mean offence to gay people saying it but it's meant to be a derogatory insult and you wouldn't shout out a racial slur towards the ref anymore would you?I may have inadvertantly called him a "cheating geordie c***" - do I need to report myself to Crimestoppers Send me your details and we’ll split the reward.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 17:17:54 GMT 1
I may have inadvertantly called him a "cheating geordie c***" - do I need to report myself to Crimestoppers Not saying anything is a crime, it's what's acceptable in society and football now especially in the grounds is moving way more towards what is acceptable. I'm not fussed to be honest, I'm just bored and find it an interesting subject. If you had your young son with you who was gay and a group of people were laughing and chanting about being gay, would you mind? I would probably twat them - I am soft as shite though so it wouldnt end well.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 4, 2018 17:20:16 GMT 1
The Brighton Argus are calling the fans that chanted as Pure evil!!! Surely that puts them on a level with Hitler, Saddam, Ripper and Margaret Thatcher that can’t be right they all did more than call names Talk about overdramatic! Pure evil..... really they have no clue if anyone can describe a terrace chant as 'pure evil' they must have led some pretty sheltered lives.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 17:20:20 GMT 1
I may have inadvertantly called him a "cheating geordie c***" - do I need to report myself to Crimestoppers You shouted that as well ?"Your honour - I honestly can't remember if I said that in the heat of the moment however I do often find myself blaspheming at that toady fucker Danny Murphy when he starts spouting shit on the telly/radio" Guilty as charged
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Post by terriers321 on Dec 4, 2018 17:26:29 GMT 1
The Brighton Argus are calling the fans that chanted as Pure evil!!! Surely that puts them on a level with Hitler, Saddam, Ripper and Margaret Thatcher that can’t be right they all did more than call names Unbelievable ain’t it. I hope whoever behind the scenes at town has a bit of common sense. What grinds on me more than anything is the fact people could be facing lifetime bans from the club they love due to a set of p.c morons making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Post by morleyterrier on Dec 4, 2018 17:53:07 GMT 1
Please all remember that the gay or LGBT community are not driving this. Do not blame them or take it out on them or hold them responsible in any way shape or form.
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Post by ben1987 on Dec 4, 2018 18:00:51 GMT 1
The clappers are just tinpot, it's been said on here many times. As for the atmosphere, on occasions, yes I would like to see it like Millwall or a Leeds in a big game, not teetering on the brink of violence but something to put the wind up the opposition. We probably do have the best atmosphere but not sure it puts the opposition of their game. If you've ever been intimidated at Leeds you've been going to a different ground than me. yer but Leeds fink it’s intimidating m8 lol ALAW
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 4, 2018 18:13:45 GMT 1
Please all remember that the gay or LGBT community are not driving this. Do not blame them or take it out on them or hold them responsible in any way shape or form. Apart from that bloke that doesn't like the Spanish 😉
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Post by rogermellie on Dec 4, 2018 20:19:07 GMT 1
Brighton fans ( not all of them if course ) just as the vast majority of teams we play chant "Sheep shaggers" at us, the implication being that as fans of a West Yorkshire team from a town and an area that was once known for its thriving woollen industry we are all prone to beastiality. Personally I've never taken offence at it and am unaware of anyone that ever has, it's plainly silly. Is it more or less so than the implication that all the fans of BHA, football team from Sussex that is widely regarded as the "gay capital " of England are all male and all homosexual? Is there a single Brighton fan, gay or straight that was offended or upset by the few chants aimed their way ? Would the same chants be ok when we play other teams, Spurs Man Utd etc that don't have the gay link ? Football fans have come a long way from the 70s and 80s, some more so than others and a handful will probably never get there but I really think there are more things to worry about than a few chants hurled last Saturday and that in no way is my condoning genuinely homophobic behaviour. In the last hour the news on the radio has announced that a woman from New Zeland has LOST her court case brought against her work colleagues in her adopted homeland of Australia. She alleged they were racist towards her by calling her a Kiwi, the judge said that was nonsense. Agree with a lot of that but Chanting sheep shaggers isn't comparable to chanting going down on your boyfriend and everyone laughing about it. If there is someone in the crowd who does actually shag a sheep then they should be ashamed of it, it's illegal. If there is someone in the crowd or a group of people who are actually gay and go down on there boyfriend then a huge group of people chanting it and laughing about the Brighton fans being gay because its an insult is completely different imo. And saying stand up if you support town is offensive to disabled people isn't comparable either. It isn't related to being disabled at all and nobody is laughing about someone being disabled or unable to stand up. I understand the chant is tongue in cheek but it is similar to say if people started chanting about Pakistanis if we were playing Bradford in a derogatory way, would anyone do it and laugh about it? Doubt it and just because its funny or not meant to cause offense doesn't mean it doesn't cause offense to that group of people. A lot of things have gone too far imo, the sexism and feminism debate really is getting on my nerves at the moment. But this story is an example really of ignorance to what people are actually singing and laughing about. The spurs fan who threw a banana on the pitch, maybe he just found it funny and that aubemenyang liked banans. Doubt it. Would you do any of these behaviours in the street? I don't think so, so why should they be acceptable in a group of people including all groups of people at a football match? I heard someone shout fa**ot towards the ref on Saturday. A few people around me twitched a bit at that but nobody said anything. Its similar again, is that acceptable, he probably didn't mean offence to gay people saying it but it's meant to be a derogatory insult and you wouldn't shout out a racial slur towards the ref anymore would you? They used to say the same about homosexuals. Just give it time. First it's illegal, then it's tolerated, then it's normalized, then it's promoted... next it's compulsory.
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 4, 2018 20:36:57 GMT 1
Please all remember that the gay or LGBT community are not driving this. Do not blame them or take it out on them or hold them responsible in any way shape or form. Im not sure. maybe it is being driven on their behalf by people who think they must be protected. But i do think they are gradually being coached to believe that any reference to their sexuality that isn;t basically blowing smoke up their arse, is utterly unacceptable and deeply offensive. Im not convinced that gay men are that delicate or lacking a sense of humour or perspective. Certainly the ones I know aren't by a long way!
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 5, 2018 1:03:43 GMT 1
If ever there was a good example of that, this one quickly arrives on the horizon! What a shock Kick it out are 'outraged'. Dear me!! I don;t know which is more tragic- the faux outrage by these embarrassingly delicate snowflakes at such an obviously humourous, nothing comment about rainbow turbans in india for their anti homophobic campaign, or the way Downes and Wimbledon have had to placate the delicate snowflakes with a grovelling apology for fear of bringing down the whole PC brigade on them if they don;t. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46440426
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 5, 2018 1:24:10 GMT 1
If ever there was a good example of that, this one quickly arrives on the horizon! What a shock Kick it out are 'outraged'. Dear me!! I don;t know which is more tragic- the faux outrage by these embarrassingly delicate snowflakes at such an obviously humourous, nothing comment about rainbow turbans in india for their anti homophobic campaign, or the way Downes and Wimbledon have had to placate the delicate snowflakes with a grovelling apology for fear of bringing down the whole PC brigade on them if they don;t. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46440426Similarly with the lass who won the Ballon d'or last night. The host asked her if she could twerk and suddenly its headline news and the snowflakes are having a field day, but when interviewwed the lass herself hadn't taken it as an offensive comment and her teamates said it had been blown out if all proportion.
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