Karlan Grant - striker incoming

[crux]

Jan 27, 2019 11:38:04 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

My prediction is that Grant will look significantly inferior to Moonie, not that he’s a world beater but he’ll be faster, better touch, and mic better aerially. The days of unearthing hidden gems from league one and below are long gone in the money game that is English football. I still think many fans don’t seem to have understood the impact of increased prem revenues since the last tv pay deal.

He'd better be faster than Mounié, that appears to be his best asset - also he does know how to score goals

Hopefully he'll know how to turn a defender, Mounié has the turning circle of an ocean going supertanker.

[Million Dollar Babies]

Jan 27, 2019 11:38:04 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

My prediction is that Grant will look significantly inferior to Moonie, not that he’s a world beater but he’ll be faster, better touch, and mic better aerially. The days of unearthing hidden gems from league one and below are long gone in the money game that is English football. I still think many fans don’t seem to have understood the impact of increased prem revenues since the last tv pay deal.

Your post doesn't read very well but are you saying that Mounie is quicker than Grant?

When have you ever seen Mounie run away from a defender? Only one I can think of is West Brom away but in 18 months it's a rare occurrence. He is very slow and Grant is meant to be a whippet

As for touch, Mounie got sent off after trying to control a ball with his chest and it bouncing 20 yards off him. Some times his touch is good and other times it can be terrible. It still needs a lot of work. No idea what Grants touch is like

Mounie definitely better in the air. There aren't many in the game who are stronger in the air than Mounie

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Jan 27, 2019 12:02:22 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Jan 27, 2019 11:38:04 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

My prediction is that Grant will look significantly inferior to Moonie, not that he’s a world beater but he’ll be faster, better touch, and mic better aerially. The days of unearthing hidden gems from league one and below are long gone in the money game that is English football. I still think many fans don’t seem to have understood the impact of increased prem revenues since the last tv pay deal.

Your post doesn't read very well but are you saying that Mounie is quicker than Grant?

When have you ever seen Mounie run away from a defender? Only one I can think of is West Brom away but in 18 months it's a rare occurrence. He is very slow and Grant is meant to be a whippet

As for touch, Mounie got sent off after trying to control a ball with his chest and it bouncing 20 yards off him. Some times his touch is good and other times it can be terrible. It still needs a lot of work. No idea what Grants touch is like

Mounie definitely better in the air. There aren't many in the game who are stronger in the air than Mounie

I just think he will look at least a level/division below Moonié and that people getting their hopes up about this signing might well be disappointed. If he was such a great prospect one of the other 18 prem teams would’ve been in for him or one of the top 6 spending championship clubs.

Moonié’s touch isn’t that bad- you’ve picked one bad example there when he was clearly trying to do more tackling/harrying as directed by Wagner, but it clearly wasn’t in his game to do that. He was a tad unlucky with the reactionary red.

Don’t get me wrong I’m no great fan of him and really as much as Diak/Mbenza it’s Moonié’s failure that cost us our prem place. That signing for us HAD to be the man to get us 10+ Prem goals and by god he had the chances this year to do that.

...but I’d say this- if I had to bet who’d score the most next season in the championship (without seeing Grant play) I’d bet on Moonié.

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Jan 27, 2019 11:54:06 GMT 1 crux said:

Jan 27, 2019 11:38:04 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

My prediction is that Grant will look significantly inferior to Moonie, not that he’s a world beater but he’ll be faster, better touch, and mic better aerially. The days of unearthing hidden gems from league one and below are long gone in the money game that is English football. I still think many fans don’t seem to have understood the impact of increased prem revenues since the last tv pay deal.

He'd better be faster than Mounié, that appears to be his best asset - also he does know how to score goals

Hopefully he'll know how to turn a defender, Mounié has the turning circle of an ocean going supertanker.

You may be right and tbf I know nothing about him nor have I checked. I just think based on levels he will have it all on to make an impact in the championship let alone Prem.

[Headless Chicken]

Jan 27, 2019 12:02:22 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Jan 27, 2019 11:38:04 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

My prediction is that Grant will look significantly inferior to Moonie, not that he’s a world beater but he’ll be faster, better touch, and mic better aerially. The days of unearthing hidden gems from league one and below are long gone in the money game that is English football. I still think many fans don’t seem to have understood the impact of increased prem revenues since the last tv pay deal.

Your post doesn't read very well but are you saying that Mounie is quicker than Grant?

When have you ever seen Mounie run away from a defender? Only one I can think of is West Brom away but in 18 months it's a rare occurrence. He is very slow and Grant is meant to be a whippet

As for touch, Mounie got sent off after trying to control a ball with his chest and it bouncing 20 yards off him. Some times his touch is good and other times it can be terrible. It still needs a lot of work. No idea what Grants touch is like

Mounie definitely better in the air. There aren't many in the game who are stronger in the air than Mounie

I honestly quite like Mounie and think some of the comments on here are OTT. Too much is made of the incident you mention, many a better player has done that in similar circumstances. He also isn't 'very slow'.

However, I'm obviously not going to say he has had a good season nor would I say he is a natural pure footballer.

In addition to being strong in the air, he comes across quite smart, so I can see him keeping on improving, which he has done on the deck. He actually looked quite comfortable running with the ball and cutting in last week, which is something I never saw as possibility (faint praise I know).

As for Grant, I've heard he is not just pacy, but also quite good technically. Maybe he could primarily play either side of Mounie or off him, if we ever go two up top.

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Dele Alli did alright when Spurs signed him for £2m from League 1 MK Dons.

There may not have been many since but plenty have used Championship clubs as a stepping stone to then get snapped up for big money.

Current prices are such that if he scored the same amount in the Championship (as Maupay has) his club would be wanting £15-20m for him.

A punt at £1.5m is well worth paying.

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The difference a player running the flanks and attacking the near post would make for us is huge.

I watched Spurs/Chelsea midweek and they did a great analysis on Giroud. Showed how his movement in the box dragged defenders with him and meant space opened up for Hazard, Willian, Pedro and whoever else got into the box late. Our biggest issue has been lack of such runs, meaning defenders can hold position and track midfielders making runs. I can’t remembef the last time we stretched a defence and pulled players out of position. If Grant has pace and movement he can only benefit us, even if he turns out too useless to actually pass to!

[BLUE&WHITE]

Jan 27, 2019 13:20:48 GMT 1 @mrx said:

Dele Alli did alright when Spurs signed him for £2m from League 1 MK Dons.

There may not have been many since but plenty have used Championship clubs as a stepping stone to then get snapped up for big money.

Current prices are such that if he scored the same amount in the Championship (as Maupay has) his club would be wanting £15-20m for him.

A punt at £1.5m is well worth paying.

There's loads of examples of players making the step up but people seem really quick to dismiss them. Loads of value in lower leagues.

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Jan 27, 2019 13:04:01 GMT 1 Headless Chicken said:

Jan 27, 2019 12:02:22 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Your post doesn't read very well but are you saying that Mounie is quicker than Grant?

When have you ever seen Mounie run away from a defender? Only one I can think of is West Brom away but in 18 months it's a rare occurrence. He is very slow and Grant is meant to be a whippet

As for touch, Mounie got sent off after trying to control a ball with his chest and it bouncing 20 yards off him. Some times his touch is good and other times it can be terrible. It still needs a lot of work. No idea what Grants touch is like

Mounie definitely better in the air. There aren't many in the game who are stronger in the air than Mounie

I honestly quite like Mounie and think some of the comments on here are OTT. Too much is made of the incident you mention, many a better player has done that in similar circumstances. He also isn't 'very slow'.

However, I'm obviously not going to say he has had a good season nor would I say he is a natural pure footballer.

In addition to being strong in the air, he comes across quite smart, so I can see him keeping on improving, which he has done on the deck. He actually looked quite comfortable running with the ball and cutting in last week, which is something I never saw as possibility (faint praise I know).

As for Grant, I've heard he is not just pacy, but also quite good technically. Maybe he could primarily play either side of Mounie or off him, if we ever go two up top.

Mounie's touch is terrible, it's happened more than once where he has midcontrolled the ball. Granted, it's a occupational hazards but his red was solely down to his awful control. His confidence looks shot to be honest, hence the glaring miss against Man City when in all honesty either me or you could have buried that chance. In his defence he has had no service whatsoever and I'm not convinced he is utilised correctly. If his strength is in the air, why aren't we raining crosses and set pieces in to the box on to his head?

The service situation was never addressed correctly in the summer hence we find ourselves in this situation we are in. He probably would score in the Championship and that might give him the momentum to carry it back in to the Premiership should we bounce straight back up, if indeed we do end up relegated.

They might forge a good partnership him and Grant, again, should he come. I always remember Mike Cecere who used to come in for some stick from Town fans but he and Maskell did forge a good partnership with both strikers scoring double figures. Maybe Grant could be Mounie's Cecere or visa versa.

[Headless Chicken]

Jan 27, 2019 13:36:36 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Jan 27, 2019 13:04:01 GMT 1 Headless Chicken said:

I honestly quite like Mounie and think some of the comments on here are OTT. Too much is made of the incident you mention, many a better player has done that in similar circumstances. He also isn't 'very slow'.

However, I'm obviously not going to say he has had a good season nor would I say he is a natural pure footballer.

In addition to being strong in the air, he comes across quite smart, so I can see him keeping on improving, which he has done on the deck. He actually looked quite comfortable running with the ball and cutting in last week, which is something I never saw as possibility (faint praise I know).

As for Grant, I've heard he is not just pacy, but also quite good technically. Maybe he could primarily play either side of Mounie or off him, if we ever go two up top.

Mounie's touch is terrible, it's happened more than once where he has midcontrolled the ball. Granted, it's a occupational hazards but his red was solely down to his awful control. His confidence looks shot to be honest, hence the glaring miss against Man City when in all honesty either me or you could have buried that chance. In his defence he has had no service whatsoever and I'm not convinced he is utilised correctly. If his strength is in the air, why aren't we raining crosses and set pieces in to the box on to his head?

The service situation was never addressed correctly in the summer hence we find ourselves in this situation we are in. He probably would score in the Championship and that might give him the momentum to carry it back in to the Premiership should we bounce straight back up, if indeed we do end up relegated.

They might forge a good partnership him and Grant, again, should he come. I always remember Mike Cecere who used to come in for some stick from Town fans but he and Maskell did forge a good partnership with both strikers scoring double figures. Maybe Grant could be Mounie's Cecere or visa versa.

Agree with a lot of that, but his control is no longer generally terrible, albeit it is still a weakness.

Either way, his red was solely down to a shit decision, irrespective of the poor control. This is a real sore point for me.

[Mecha Corte]

There's loads of examples of players making the step up but people seem really quick to dismiss them. Loads of value in lower leagues.
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Agree, Vardy for one, written off by experts on here as not good enough for us in the 2nd tier, went from non league to PL winner and plat for England, or Marcus Stewart, 3rd tier to the PLs leading goal scorer for Ipswich - shame on you Ian Ayre you dick.

It would be easy to come up with lots more examples to prove the point, likewise countless ones that didn't work out to prove the point is wrong, football signings aren't an exact science, they are a punt, sone will work out, others won't and the fee is no guarantee, how much gave Chelsea blown on Verón, Torres and Moraita ? £150M just on transfers, we gave them about £5,000 for Duncan Shearer who was massively more successful (in relative terms)

It seems this lad is set to join us from Charlton, for around £1 / £2M and it seems Dean is comfortable taking a punt at that price, 2 years ago that was a new record fee for Schindler, 10 years ago it was too expensive for "guaranteed" goals with Ricky Lambert.
If he does let's wish him well, after all he MIGHT be our next Shearer or Stewart.

[deadleg]

It's a total nonsense to say the days of people stepping up from League 2 like Taylor-Fletcher are long gone. He took seven years to get to the Premier League from Lincoln. Jamie Vardy went from the Northern Premier League to the England squad in less time.

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The issue we’ve had all year is Mounie winning nearly every header, but no-one running off him. From the sounds of things Grant is quick enough, and has the positional sense, to fill that gap.

In the likely event we drop a division I think Mounie and Grant could form a formidable strike partnership if Siewert can get them working together. Pritchard just behind pulling the strings, in a league we know he is a serious player in, could work a treat.

[HuddsTerrier]

Half the England team started at lower league academies; Walker, stones, maguire, Ali etc

Soton alone had 5 future England players on their books when they were league one - chambers, lallana, ward prowse, oxlade chamberlain, shaw

In Grants same intake at Charlton there was ade lookman and joe Gomez as well

Then as well as vardy there’s players like smalling and Ben foster who were none league

Plenty of talent in the lower leagues still imo

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Jan 27, 2019 13:20:48 GMT 1 @mrx said:

Dele Alli did alright when Spurs signed him for £2m from League 1 MK Dons.

There may not have been many since but plenty have used Championship clubs as a stepping stone to then get snapped up for big money.

Current prices are such that if he scored the same amount in the Championship (as Maupay has) his club would be wanting £15-20m for him.

A punt at £1.5m is well worth paying.

Now that is a very good, in fact the best example. I think it’s actaully the only example from last 5 years.

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Jan 27, 2019 14:46:37 GMT 1 @town4life94 said:

The issue we’ve had all year is Mounie winning nearly every header, but no-one running off him. From the sounds of things Grant is quick enough, and has the positional sense, to fill that gap.

In the likely event we drop a division I think Mounie and Grant could form a formidable strike partnership if Siewert can get them working together. Pritchard just behind pulling the strings, in a league we know he is a serious player in, could work a treat.

Agreed. If we get a player who can cross the ball moonie will score a lot in the championship. Look what he did with Mbenza’s cross the other week. He absolutely buried it. Timed his run to perfection. He must be thinking or even saying why have none of you given me any crosses like that this season?

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Jan 27, 2019 14:49:42 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

Half the England team started at lower league academies; Walker, stones, maguire, Ali etc

Soton alone had 5 future England pros on their books when they were league one - chambers, lallana, ward prowse, oxlade chamberlain, shaw

In Grants same intake at Charlton there was ade lookman and joe Gomez as well

Then as well as vardy there’s players like smalling and Ben foster who were none league

Plenty of talent in the lower leagues still imo

None of those players were available to Town though- that’s part of my point- what talent there is in the lower leagues (& there’s not very much these days that can cut it in the prem) is snapped up by the other richer premier league clubs. Which tells me Grant is a big old punt...If he were a better prospect someone richer than us would’ve signed him.

[Million Dollar Babies]

Jan 27, 2019 14:46:37 GMT 1 @town4life94 said:

The issue we’ve had all year is Mounie winning nearly every header, but no-one running off him. From the sounds of things Grant is quick enough, and has the positional sense, to fill that gap.

In the likely event we drop a division I think Mounie and Grant could form a formidable strike partnership if Siewert can get them working together. Pritchard just behind pulling the strings, in a league we know he is a serious player in, could work a treat.

What formation are you proposing that allows us to play 2 up front and still have Pritchard behind them while not getting over run in midfield?

[tobbyg]

Jan 27, 2019 15:05:59 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Jan 27, 2019 14:46:37 GMT 1 @town4life94 said:

The issue we’ve had all year is Mounie winning nearly every header, but no-one running off him. From the sounds of things Grant is quick enough, and has the positional sense, to fill that gap.

In the likely event we drop a division I think Mounie and Grant could form a formidable strike partnership if Siewert can get them working together. Pritchard just behind pulling the strings, in a league we know he is a serious player in, could work a treat.

What formation are you proposing that allows us to play 2 up front and still have Pritchard behind them while not getting over run in midfield?

An untraditional 4-3-3 with the likes of Williams/ Hogg/ Billing in the deeper 3?

[galpharm2400]

Jan 27, 2019 15:05:59 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Jan 27, 2019 14:46:37 GMT 1 @town4life94 said:

The issue we’ve had all year is Mounie winning nearly every header, but no-one running off him. From the sounds of things Grant is quick enough, and has the positional sense, to fill that gap.

In the likely event we drop a division I think Mounie and Grant could form a formidable strike partnership if Siewert can get them working together. Pritchard just behind pulling the strings, in a league we know he is a serious player in, could work a treat.

What formation are you proposing that allows us to play 2 up front and still have Pritchard behind them while not getting over run in midfield?

not two up front, just one of the wide midfielders being further forward, more often and for longer?  Pritchard plays our side of mounie therefore having a runner going past and one for the knock back or to assist if mounie holds it up??

watching man city break or even the 'new' man united, its not how many strikers you have in your 'formation' its how many get forward and how quickly..  Liverpool are different because they break with 3 left up the pitch supported by a very quick, attacking full back on either side..

lets see how the new bloke sets up and more importantly how we actually 'play' whoever starts???

[upthetown]

Jan 27, 2019 15:12:30 GMT 1 tobbyg said:

Jan 27, 2019 15:05:59 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

What formation are you proposing that allows us to play 2 up front and still have Pritchard behind them while not getting over run in midfield?

An untraditional 4-3-3 with the likes of Williams/ Hogg/ Billing in the deeper 3?

Wouldn’t be much width/crosses unless fullbacks bombed on and Hogg covered them... Hogg (or Williams)/Mooy/Billing as the 3 would be good. Still not sure we’d get enough men in the box

[charltonfan1995]

Hi all

Thought I'd come on here and give you my opinion of Grant as it looks fairly likely he'll be joining you.

I'll start from when he was first given a go in the first team back when he was 17. Roland Duchâtelet had not long bought us and decided he wanted most of our team made up of youth team players. As a result Karlan was given a go in the first team, it became apparent pretty quickly that he was no where near ready for the Championship along with a lot of our other young players that Roland wanted to be playing. The only one that was ready was Joe Gomez who everyone knew would go on to be a top top player.

After our relegation to league 1 Karlan still didn't feature much under either Russell Slade. Slade was then sacked and Karl Robinson brought in. Again Karlan didn't really get a chance. Robinson played a 4-2-3-1 (never ever anything else). When he did come on from the bench he would play out wide in the 4-2-3-1 and was pretty poor. This time last year I'm sure 90% of Charlton fans would have said he'd end up as no more than a decent league 1 player at best. However he had never been given a real run in the team. I'm sure that being brought into the first team at such a young and failing to make an impact a couple of season before had dented his confidence.

Towards the end of Robinsons reign as manager Karlan finally started to have more of an impact off the bench. We then decided to loan him out to Crawley where Harry Kewell was in change. Bowyer was our assistant at the time and is still mates with Kewell. Karlan played well at Crawley and looked like he had found his level possibly. While he was out on loan Robinson was sacked and Bowyer got the job full time.

During the summer there were some allegations made about him along with one of our other players. As far as I know this is ongoing but very little has been said about it in all honesty. At the start of this season we went into the first game (Sunderland away) with a tiny squad and couldn't even fill the bench. We played well though eventually losing the game 2-1. Karlan won us a penalty by Sprinting into the box and getting taken down. Taylor and Grant were very good together and never really looked back.

Karlans best attribute is his pace for sure and he's a decent finisher. However he can certainly improve and has a habit of missing one on ones. His first touch is also not the best and he needs to hold the ball up better than he does. Although he's had a good half season for us a huge amount of this is down to Lyle Taylor who's been our best player by a mile this year and is easily the best striker in the league. Most of Karlans goals have been set up by Taylor and if we're going to lose one of them I'd much rather it be Grant.

He's got potential for sure but currently he is a top league 1 / lower Championship player. If he goes straight into your team please don't expect too much of him. I think he will end up being a decent championship striker but I would be surprised if he was your main man next season, I'm sure you'll look to get someone better in and have Karlan as a back up/future prospect.

Anyway I hope he does well for you (assuming he leaves). I'll hang around on here over the coming days so feel free to ask any questions about him.

[Million Dollar Babies]

Jan 27, 2019 16:00:49 GMT 1 upthetown said:

Jan 27, 2019 15:12:30 GMT 1 tobbyg said:

An untraditional 4-3-3 with the likes of Williams/ Hogg/ Billing in the deeper 3?

Wouldn’t be much width/crosses unless fullbacks bombed on and Hogg covered them... Hogg (or Williams)/Mooy/Billing as the 3 would be good. Still not sure we’d get enough men in the box

Exactly

What's the point in playing Mounie with Grant alongside him and then not playing with any width.

Pritchard will be the one to drop out if we do play two up front

Hopefully we'll go back to playing with proper width through players like Mbenza and Diakhaby who are rapid and can stretch teams. Won't be many teams with the pace of Grant, Mbenza and Diakhaby. Granted they need to be able to do something with the ball too but we've been playing all season with players like Pritchard who look pretty enough in possession but actually contributed close to nothing

[BLUE&WHITE]

Jan 27, 2019 14:59:30 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

Jan 27, 2019 13:20:48 GMT 1 @mrx said:

Dele Alli did alright when Spurs signed him for £2m from League 1 MK Dons.

There may not have been many since but plenty have used Championship clubs as a stepping stone to then get snapped up for big money.

Current prices are such that if he scored the same amount in the Championship (as Maupay has) his club would be wanting £15-20m for him.

A punt at £1.5m is well worth paying.

Now that is a very good, in fact the best example. I think it’s actaully the only example from last 5 years.

No it's not there's loads.

Robertson... Wilson... Lookman...

[k1man999]

We've punted 10m on diakhaby so 1.5 on this k8d is nothing

[upthetown]

Jan 27, 2019 16:22:49 GMT 1 BLUE&WHITE said:

Jan 27, 2019 14:59:30 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

Now that is a very good, in fact the best example. I think it’s actaully the only example from last 5 years.

No it's not there's loads.

Robertson... Wilson... Lookman...

Cook
McGuire
Ampadu
Coady (albeit via pronotion)
Half the Bournemouth squad

[Melc]

Jan 27, 2019 16:05:52 GMT 1 charltonfan1995 said:

Hi all

Thought I'd come on here and give you my opinion of Grant as it looks fairly likely he'll be joining you.

I'll start from when he was first given a go in the first team back when he was 17. Roland Duchâtelet had not long bought us and decided he wanted most of our team made up of youth team players. As a result Karlan was given a go in the first team, it became apparent pretty quickly that he was no where near ready for the Championship along with a lot of our other young players that Roland wanted to be playing. The only one that was ready was Joe Gomez who everyone knew would go on to be a top top player.

After our relegation to league 1 Karlan still didn't feature much under either Russell Slade. Slade was then sacked and Karl Robinson brought in. Again Karlan didn't really get a chance. Robinson played a 4-2-3-1 (never ever anything else). When he did come on from the bench he would play out wide in the 4-2-3-1 and was pretty poor. This time last year I'm sure 90% of Charlton fans would have said he'd end up as no more than a decent league 1 player at best. However he had never been given a real run in the team. I'm sure that being brought into the first team at such a young and failing to make an impact a couple of season before had dented his confidence.

Towards the end of Robinsons reign as manager Karlan finally started to have more of an impact off the bench. We then decided to loan him out to Crawley where Harry Kewell was in change. Bowyer was our assistant at the time and is still mates with Kewell. Karlan played well at Crawley and looked like he had found his level possibly. While he was out on loan Robinson was sacked and Bowyer got the job full time.

During the summer there were some allegations made about him along with one of our other players. As far as I know this is ongoing but very little has been said about it in all honesty. At the start of this season we went into the first game (Sunderland away) with a tiny squad and couldn't even fill the bench. We played well though eventually losing the game 2-1. Karlan won us a penalty by Sprinting into the box and getting taken down. Taylor and Grant were very good together and never really looked back.

Karlans best attribute is his pace for sure and he's a decent finisher. However he can certainly improve and has a habit of missing one on ones. His first touch is also not the best and he needs to hold the ball up better than he does. Although he's had a good half season for us a huge amount of this is down to Lyle Taylor who's been our best player by a mile this year and is easily the best striker in the league. Most of Karlans goals have been set up by Taylor and if we're going to lose one of them I'd much rather it be Grant.

He's got potential for sure but currently he is a top league 1 / lower Championship player. If he goes straight into your team please don't expect too much of him. I think he will end up being a decent championship striker but I would be surprised if he was your main man next season, I'm sure you'll look to get someone better in and have Karlan as a back up/future prospect.

Anyway I hope he does well for you (assuming he leaves). I'll hang around on here over the coming days so feel free to ask any questions about him.

Thanks for that, by the way what formation does he play best in? Just for the boring farts on here who seem to think they know best how to set up our team!

[charltonfan1995]

We usually play either a flat 4-4-2 or a narrow diamond. Either way he needs someone up front with him really to hold the ball up. Karlan does the running behind the defense well but his first touch isn't great so when he does try to hold it up himself it usually ends up getting taken off of him straight away.

Yesterday Taylor was suspended so we had to play him upfront by himself. He was pretty isolated and didn't do much. Second half we brought on our youth team striker who hardly plays but it helped Karlan a lot.

[turbo2]

Jan 27, 2019 12:02:22 GMT 1 Million Dollar Babies said:

Jan 27, 2019 11:38:04 GMT 1 @joseppi1 said:

My prediction is that Grant will look significantly inferior to Moonie, not that he’s a world beater but he’ll be faster, better touch, and mic better aerially. The days of unearthing hidden gems from league one and below are long gone in the money game that is English football. I still think many fans don’t seem to have understood the impact of increased prem revenues since the last tv pay deal.

Your post doesn't read very well but are you saying that Mounie is quicker than Grant?

When have you ever seen Mounie run away from a defender? Only one I can think of is West Brom away but in 18 months it's a rare occurrence. He is very slow and Grant is meant to be a whippet

As for touch, Mounie got sent off after trying to control a ball with his chest and it bouncing 20 yards off him. Some times his touch is good and other times it can be terrible. It still needs a lot of work. No idea what Grants touch is like

Mounie definitely better in the air. There aren't many in the game who are stronger in the air than Mounie

Cant agree, we're second in the crosses stats. Surely if either of our strikers were anything like any good in the air by default they'd have a reasonable number of goals each.

When i went to Palace on the opening day last season, i thought we'd got a beauty.. Great in the air, strong and quick. His performances since West Ham away have been mainly utter shit

This season between him and LDP we might have well as played with ten men most weeks

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