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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 18, 2019 20:52:19 GMT 1
Yoann Barbet signed for QPR Weird one that London club I guess.
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 18, 2019 20:55:04 GMT 1
I thought the same and also thought QPR were skint lol. London skint and Yorkshire skint are two different things.
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Post by terrier10 on Jun 18, 2019 21:12:20 GMT 1
Played under Warburton at Brentford? Doesn’t have to move family etc.
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 18, 2019 21:13:12 GMT 1
Nixon claiming half the championship clubs haven't got a pot to piss in this window? He's right.... Reading - struggling to pay wages apparently Leeds - have to sell to bring new in according to RL tonight. Brum - in turmoil financially. Charlton - for sale Boro/hull/wba/forest/derby - restructuring Preston / Blackburn / Luton - limited budgets. Football outside the top flight is in a real mess. because far too many chase the dream. we managed to go up on a 5m deficit year on year, and thats still not the way it should be done. wouldn't be surprised to see some big club go completely bust in the next few years. the gap between the pre and the fl is huge, and the wages in the fl should mirror that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 21:17:44 GMT 1
He's right.... Reading - struggling to pay wages apparently Leeds - have to sell to bring new in according to RL tonight. Brum - in turmoil financially. Charlton - for sale Boro/hull/wba/forest/derby - restructuring Preston / Blackburn / Luton - limited budgets. Football outside the top flight is in a real mess. because far too many chase the dream. we managed to go up on a 5m deficit year on year, and thats still not the way it should be done. wouldn't be surprised to see some big club go completely bust in the next few years. the gap between the pre and the fl is huge, and the wages in the fl should mirror that. And this is why we should be proud that our club doesn’t go stupid when others do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 21:46:52 GMT 1
The usual run of the mill " I want a new challenge, Enjoyed London, Maybe play abroad, Maybe stay in England "
Just want more money, No thought given nor two hoots as to who they join.
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Post by canuckterrier on Jun 18, 2019 21:51:49 GMT 1
From all accounts it seems Kongolo is on mega money (even after the relegation clause), and now that we’re having to cut our cloth accordingly it’s in our best interest if we find an acceptable bid and move on even if we need to take a small loss. It pains me to say that as he’s going to be remembered as one of the best defenders we’ve ever had, and make many people’s all time town team in years to come, but having someone paid more than double the guy next to him is a problem in more ways than one. The golden rule for me, would we have signed him in the championship? If the answer is no then he’s obviously ill fitting for what our current situation is. The faster we can revert back to a Championship club the better, and unfortunately that means saying goodbye to some of these players that we’ve enjoyed seeing in blue and white. Mooy for me is going to be the killer, i’ll probably never see a player that good in a town shirt again, but similarly he needs to go i’m afraid. If an offer near to what we paid for him comes then it’s a no brainier to accept it but his salary and contract will be accounted for within the budgets over the next 2-3 years so there’s no real issue there, that’s why people at the club have said they are in good shape financially and don’t have to sell if they don’t want to, although I reckon some on here would say they are saying that so the club don’t attract stupid offers they feel they’ll have to accept. If the right offers don’t come along and we have Mooy and Kongolo along with Schindler then i’ll be extremely pleased come the 1st game of the season especially when adding some young and hungry players from divisions lower down. Good point. And at the end of the day, that is the reasoning behind the introduction of parachute payments. i.e. to help offset some of the bigger salaries that aren't covered by relegation clauses. Whether a club actually elects to use some or all of this funding for augmenting salaries is a different matter.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 6:11:19 GMT 1
From all accounts it seems Kongolo is on mega money (even after the relegation clause), and now that we’re having to cut our cloth accordingly it’s in our best interest if we find an acceptable bid and move on even if we need to take a small loss. It pains me to say that as he’s going to be remembered as one of the best defenders we’ve ever had, and make many people’s all time town team in years to come, but having someone paid more than double the guy next to him is a problem in more ways than one. The golden rule for me, would we have signed him in the championship? If the answer is no then he’s obviously ill fitting for what our current situation is. The faster we can revert back to a Championship club the better, and unfortunately that means saying goodbye to some of these players that we’ve enjoyed seeing in blue and white. Mooy for me is going to be the killer, i’ll probably never see a player that good in a town shirt again, but similarly he needs to go i’m afraid. If an offer near to what we paid for him comes then it’s a no brainier to accept it but his salary and contract will be accounted for within the budgets over the next 2-3 years so there’s no real issue there, that’s why people at the club have said they are in good shape financially and don’t have to sell if they don’t want to, although I reckon some on here would say they are saying that so the club don’t attract stupid offers they feel they’ll have to accept. If the right offers don’t come along and we have Mooy and Kongolo along with Schindler then i’ll be extremely pleased come the 1st game of the season especially when adding some young and hungry players from divisions lower down. His wages are accounted for but that doesn’t mean to say it’s the best use of the clubs budget. I’m sure the money would be far better invested elsewhere and so i’d be very surprised if he was here at the end of the window. It makes sense for us, him and the buying club.
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Post by greyarea on Jun 19, 2019 7:36:46 GMT 1
From all accounts it seems Kongolo is on mega money (even after the relegation clause), and now that we’re having to cut our cloth accordingly it’s in our best interest if we find an acceptable bid and move on even if we need to take a small loss. It pains me to say that as he’s going to be remembered as one of the best defenders we’ve ever had, and make many people’s all time town team in years to come, but having someone paid more than double the guy next to him is a problem in more ways than one. The golden rule for me, would we have signed him in the championship? If the answer is no then he’s obviously ill fitting for what our current situation is. The faster we can revert back to a Championship club the better, and unfortunately that means saying goodbye to some of these players that we’ve enjoyed seeing in blue and white. Mooy for me is going to be the killer, i’ll probably never see a player that good in a town shirt again, but similarly he needs to go i’m afraid. Town's wage ceiling in the Premier league was £50,000 per week. All players have the 40% relegation clause so he'll be on £30,000 or close to it.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2019 9:49:29 GMT 1
If an offer near to what we paid for him comes then it’s a no brainier to accept it but his salary and contract will be accounted for within the budgets over the next 2-3 years so there’s no real issue there, that’s why people at the club have said they are in good shape financially and don’t have to sell if they don’t want to, although I reckon some on here would say they are saying that so the club don’t attract stupid offers they feel they’ll have to accept. If the right offers don’t come along and we have Mooy and Kongolo along with Schindler then i’ll be extremely pleased come the 1st game of the season especially when adding some young and hungry players from divisions lower down. His wages are accounted for but that doesn’t mean to say it’s the best use of the clubs budget. I’m sure the money would be far better invested elsewhere and so i’d be very surprised if he was here at the end of the window. It makes sense for us, him and the buying club. Nobody needs to leave because we cant afford their wages.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 9:52:02 GMT 1
His wages are accounted for but that doesn’t mean to say it’s the best use of the clubs budget. I’m sure the money would be far better invested elsewhere and so i’d be very surprised if he was here at the end of the window. It makes sense for us, him and the buying club. Nobody needs to leave because we cant afford their wages. Agree, but that’s not what I said, read again.
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 19, 2019 10:05:43 GMT 1
Signing Brown today or tomorrow ?
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Post by mallyb on Jun 19, 2019 10:20:30 GMT 1
If an offer near to what we paid for him comes then it’s a no brainier to accept it but his salary and contract will be accounted for within the budgets over the next 2-3 years so there’s no real issue there, that’s why people at the club have said they are in good shape financially and don’t have to sell if they don’t want to, although I reckon some on here would say they are saying that so the club don’t attract stupid offers they feel they’ll have to accept. If the right offers don’t come along and we have Mooy and Kongolo along with Schindler then i’ll be extremely pleased come the 1st game of the season especially when adding some young and hungry players from divisions lower down. His wages are accounted for but that doesn’t mean to say it’s the best use of the clubs budget. I’m sure the money would be far better invested elsewhere and so i’d be very surprised if he was here at the end of the window. It makes sense for us, him and the buying club. What is the better use of budget than on quality players? You can only play 11 at any 1 time so 10 players from league 2 doesn't move us forward. We need some top quality players and Kongolo is in that category. The smartest thing is to assemble the best squad possible within budget and he is within budget. You talk like we are finished, that we should never have any ambition to return to the premier league, we should accept our lot in life.
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Post by detox on Jun 19, 2019 10:26:48 GMT 1
He's right.... Reading - struggling to pay wages apparently Leeds - have to sell to bring new in according to RL tonight. Brum - in turmoil financially. Charlton - for sale Boro/hull/wba/forest/derby - restructuring Preston / Blackburn / Luton - limited budgets. Football outside the top flight is in a real mess. because far too many chase the dream. we managed to go up on a 5m deficit year on year, and thats still not the way it should be done. wouldn't be surprised to see some big club go completely bust in the next few years. the gap between the pre and the fl is huge, and the wages in the fl should mirror that. Bristol City might be the outside bet this time, they've had a ton of cash put in by their billionaire owner Stephen Lansdown, and this will continue...
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 19, 2019 10:28:06 GMT 1
Nobody needs to leave because we cant afford their wages. Agree, but that’s not what I said, read again. Your post at the top said he was on mega money and that he and Mooy needed to go, thats more what I was commenting on.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jun 19, 2019 10:31:20 GMT 1
His wages are accounted for but that doesn’t mean to say it’s the best use of the clubs budget. I’m sure the money would be far better invested elsewhere and so i’d be very surprised if he was here at the end of the window. It makes sense for us, him and the buying club. What is the better use of budget than on quality players? You can only play 11 at any 1 time so 10 players from league 2 doesn't move us forward. We need some top quality players and Kongolo is in that category. The smartest thing is to assemble the best squad possible within budget and he is within budget. You talk like we are finished, that we should never have any ambition to return to the premier league, we should accept our lot in life. In a league where everyone is strapped for cash, we can get better value elsewhere, spread the budget across the team and lift the overall quality rather than on a few big earners. In my opinion, I’d rather have a team of good players, than an average team with a couple of stars. Let’s see what happens!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 10:33:03 GMT 1
His wages are accounted for but that doesn’t mean to say it’s the best use of the clubs budget. I’m sure the money would be far better invested elsewhere and so i’d be very surprised if he was here at the end of the window. It makes sense for us, him and the buying club. What is the better use of budget than on quality players? You can only play 11 at any 1 time so 10 players from league 2 doesn't move us forward. We need some top quality players and Kongolo is in that category. The smartest thing is to assemble the best squad possible within budget and he is within budget. You talk like we are finished, that we should never have any ambition to return to the premier league, we should accept our lot in life.
You can see both viewpoints, whether utilising the parachute money over a longer period of time to sustain the club for the next 10 years or so as was mentioned, or being able to assemble a squad on paper capable of mounting a serious push for promotion back the EPL without running into financial difficulty over the next three seasons. As fans, we would obviously prefer the latter which should be a better watch for our money, however if things don't go to plan and by 2022 we are still in the Championship, a huge cull all round is called for and it's back to watching a squad full of journeymen and a relegation battle ahead.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jun 19, 2019 10:35:07 GMT 1
because far too many chase the dream. we managed to go up on a 5m deficit year on year, and thats still not the way it should be done. wouldn't be surprised to see some big club go completely bust in the next few years. the gap between the pre and the fl is huge, and the wages in the fl should mirror that. Bristol City might be the outside bet this time, they've had a ton of cash put in by their billionaire owner Stephen Lansdown, and this will continue... They would have been promoted before now with a good manager in charge.
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Post by Uddersfield on Jun 19, 2019 10:41:39 GMT 1
Bristol City might be the outside bet this time, they've had a ton of cash put in by their billionaire owner Stephen Lansdown, and this will continue... They would have been promoted before now with a good manager in charge. It'll be his last season if they don't challenge this year.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jun 19, 2019 10:49:49 GMT 1
how do Bristol City get around the FFP then?
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Post by detox on Jun 19, 2019 10:52:01 GMT 1
Bristol City might be the outside bet this time, they've had a ton of cash put in by their billionaire owner Stephen Lansdown, and this will continue... They would have been promoted before now with a good manager in charge. Lee Johnson has been there over 3 years hasn't he, they must like him ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 12:09:29 GMT 1
how do Bristol City get around the FFP then?
Owner sponsors them/the ground I think = commercial revenue
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Post by Terry Jacko on Jun 19, 2019 12:27:28 GMT 1
Also Bristol City sold Reid, Flint and a player to Fulham forget his name last summer. Got good money for Kodjia not that long ago too.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 19, 2019 12:35:00 GMT 1
What is the better use of budget than on quality players? You can only play 11 at any 1 time so 10 players from league 2 doesn't move us forward. We need some top quality players and Kongolo is in that category. The smartest thing is to assemble the best squad possible within budget and he is within budget. You talk like we are finished, that we should never have any ambition to return to the premier league, we should accept our lot in life. In a league where everyone is strapped for cash, we can get better value elsewhere, spread the budget across the team and lift the overall quality rather than on a few big earners. In my opinion, I’d rather have a team of good players, than an average team with a couple of stars. Let’s see what happens! An average team with only one star got us promoted last time
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 19, 2019 12:38:09 GMT 1
The usual run of the mill " I want a new challenge, Enjoyed London, Maybe play abroad, Maybe stay in England "
Just want more money, No thought given nor two hoots as to who they join.
Are QPR skint? This would suggest not as everyone thinks. He won't be going there for peanuts.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 19, 2019 12:48:36 GMT 1
Burnley are not interested in signing Belgian full-back Boli Mbombo from Rapid Vienna, despite speculation linking the 23-year-old with a move to Turf Moor. (Burnley Express)
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Post by arry11 on Jun 19, 2019 12:54:14 GMT 1
Burnley are not interested in signing Belgian full-back Boli Mbombo from Rapid Vienna, despite speculation linking the 23-year-old with a move to Turf Moor. (Burnley Express) I wonder if we are interested maybe an agent pushing for a sale or just the media making up stories.
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Post by Uddersfield on Jun 19, 2019 13:04:14 GMT 1
Can we just sign Cavaleiro already?
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Post by shawsie on Jun 19, 2019 13:14:27 GMT 1
The usual run of the mill " I want a new challenge, Enjoyed London, Maybe play abroad, Maybe stay in England "
Just want more money, No thought given nor two hoots as to who they join.
Are QPR skint? This would suggest not as everyone thinks. He won't be going there for peanuts. Yes they are - but loans have gone back and several high earners 15-25k pw like lynch were released so probably scope there and no relocation for the player. I think most championship clubs will be making loan signings rather than permanent given the stupid wages paid out to mediocrity at this level. Average earnings estimated to exceed £500k pa now!
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Post by Jack on Jun 19, 2019 13:14:30 GMT 1
From all accounts it seems Kongolo is on mega money (even after the relegation clause), and now that we’re having to cut our cloth accordingly it’s in our best interest if we find an acceptable bid and move on even if we need to take a small loss. It pains me to say that as he’s going to be remembered as one of the best defenders we’ve ever had, and make many people’s all time town team in years to come, but having someone paid more than double the guy next to him is a problem in more ways than one. The golden rule for me, would we have signed him in the championship? If the answer is no then he’s obviously ill fitting for what our current situation is. The faster we can revert back to a Championship club the better, and unfortunately that means saying goodbye to some of these players that we’ve enjoyed seeing in blue and white. Mooy for me is going to be the killer, i’ll probably never see a player that good in a town shirt again, but similarly he needs to go i’m afraid. Have you not contradicted yourself a bit there?
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