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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 9, 2019 16:22:04 GMT 1
And on Saturday, yet again, he showed you why. By almost instantly changing an absolute borefest of a first half into a second half Town team with a semblance of attacking threat. Did you prefer the first half on Saturday? I must have blinked and missed that one.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 9, 2019 16:27:25 GMT 1
By almost instantly changing an absolute borefest of a first half into a second half Town team with a semblance of attacking threat. Did you prefer the first half on Saturday? I must have blinked and missed that one. It's ok, given your posts on here over the years I'm sure we are watching games in entirely alternate universes (Fringe style)
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 9, 2019 16:57:05 GMT 1
I must have blinked and missed that one. It's ok, given your posts on here over the years I'm sure we are watching games in entirely alternate universes (Fringe style) Ar's spent the last 10 years doing a one man Poznan at games.
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Post by royrace on Apr 9, 2019 18:58:06 GMT 1
And on Saturday, yet again, he showed you why. By almost instantly changing an absolute borefest of a first half into a second half Town team with a semblance of attacking threat. Did you prefer the first half on Saturday? I remember one good cross he made, is that what you mean? The rest of the time he looked like a fish out of water, same as he has every time he’s played.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 9, 2019 19:20:35 GMT 1
By almost instantly changing an absolute borefest of a first half into a second half Town team with a semblance of attacking threat. Did you prefer the first half on Saturday? I remember one good cross he made, is that what you mean? The rest of the time he looked like a fish out of water, same as he has every time he’s played. fish out of water? - Is that like Tom Ince in the PL
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Post by Town Duppy on Apr 9, 2019 20:24:30 GMT 1
F**k the system!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 10, 2019 7:37:30 GMT 1
He needs Quaner and VLP in his masterplan next season.
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Post by royrace on Apr 10, 2019 7:58:40 GMT 1
I remember one good cross he made, is that what you mean? The rest of the time he looked like a fish out of water, same as he has every time he’s played. fish out of water? - Is that like Tom Ince in the PL Ince is three times the player I thought everyone could see that now! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by crux on Apr 10, 2019 10:01:07 GMT 1
fish out of water? - Is that like Tom Ince in the PL Ince is three times the player I thought everyone could see that now! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Now I know you're a wum 👍
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 10, 2019 15:32:24 GMT 1
Ince is three times the player I thought everyone could see that now! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Now I know you're a wum 👍 Ince was a threat in a game for 90 mins. One good cross versus numerous instances of losing possession easily and running around aimlessly does not make him a player worthy of selection in my eyes. At best an impact sub for last 10 minutes.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 10, 2019 16:11:29 GMT 1
Now I know you're a wum 👍 Ince was a threat in a game for 90 mins. One good cross versus numerous instances of losing possession easily and running around aimlessly does not make him a player worthy of selection in my eyes. At best an impact sub for last 10 minutes. He was only a threat if you were in the seats behind the goals when he shot, he was fuck all threat to the opposition.
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Post by royrace on Apr 10, 2019 17:50:02 GMT 1
Ince is three times the player I thought everyone could see that now! Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Now I know you're a wum 👍 This debate really makes me chuckle, I'll be honest and say I cant see how any Town fan can genuinely think that Mbenza is the better player of the two. I think an eye test might be in order. Someone on this board actually thinks we'll be lucky to keep hold of him this summer Its like some of you live in a parallel universe (or more likely don't like admitting you were very wrong ).
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Post by crux on Apr 10, 2019 17:58:41 GMT 1
Now I know you're a wum 👍 This debate really makes me chuckle, I'll be honest and say I cant see how any Town fan can genuinely think that Mbenza is the better player of the two. I think an eye test might be in order. Someone on this board actually thinks we'll be lucky to keep hold of him this summer Its like some of you live in a parallel universe (or more likely don't like admitting you were very wrong ). Ince has showed that he isn't good enough at Premier league level over a whole season for us and before with other clubs. He played most games for us last season and scored 1 goal and NO ASSISTS. Mbenza (a young lad playing in a foreign country and not speaking the language) may turn out not to be good enough either, but at the moment, with limited match time he has created more goals than Ince in a season. For the record, I was excited when Ince signed and backed him when others had given up on him. But in the end he lacks speed of thought and isn't physically strong or quick enough to get away from Premier league defenders. A great player in the championship, or maybe not this year with Stoke.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 10, 2019 19:54:39 GMT 1
This debate really makes me chuckle, I'll be honest and say I cant see how any Town fan can genuinely think that Mbenza is the better player of the two. I think an eye test might be in order. Someone on this board actually thinks we'll be lucky to keep hold of him this summer Its like some of you live in a parallel universe (or more likely don't like admitting you were very wrong ). Ince has showed that he isn't good enough at Premier league level over a whole season for us and before with other clubs. He played most games for us last season and scored 1 goal and NO ASSISTS. Mbenza (a young lad playing in a foreign country and not speaking the language) may turn out not to be good enough either, but at the moment, with limited match time he has created more goals than Ince in a season. For the record, I was excited when Ince signed and backed him when others had given up on him. But in the end he lacks speed of thought and isn't physically strong or quick enough to get away from Premier league defenders. A great player in the championship, or maybe not this year with Stoke. That’s the point of the debate. Ince would be a great asset to us next season in the Championship. Based on the very little Mbenza has produced so far which player would you prefer to have? The signing of Mbenza was a ridiculous mistake when we should have signed players ready to go in the Premier League.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 10, 2019 20:40:55 GMT 1
Ince has showed that he isn't good enough at Premier league level over a whole season for us and before with other clubs. He played most games for us last season and scored 1 goal and NO ASSISTS. Mbenza (a young lad playing in a foreign country and not speaking the language) may turn out not to be good enough either, but at the moment, with limited match time he has created more goals than Ince in a season. For the record, I was excited when Ince signed and backed him when others had given up on him. But in the end he lacks speed of thought and isn't physically strong or quick enough to get away from Premier league defenders. A great player in the championship, or maybe not this year with Stoke. That’s the point of the debate. Ince would be a great asset to us next season in the Championship. Based on the very little Mbenza has produced so far which player would you prefer to have? The signing of Mbenza was a ridiculous mistake when we should have signed players ready to go in the Premier League. I'm sure that's what Stoke thought when parting with £10m last summer but it's not exactly worked out for them. All transfers are gambles, it's not an exact science - we gambled on Ince the previous season and that didn't work out! Signing Kongolo, who had a seamless transition last January from Ligue 1 probably led our recruitment department to expect similar things from Diakhaby and Mbenza. We simply can't afford to buy PL sure things. I do believe that we have barely scratched the surface with both Diakhaby and Mbenza and they were both underused by Wagner - Neither can produce anything if they aren't on the pitch. Both players were omitted from the squad for prolonged periods by Wagner when they had shown their pace could trouble defenders if only as impact subs when trailling which were often doing all season.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 10, 2019 20:54:26 GMT 1
Ince has showed that he isn't good enough at Premier league level over a whole season for us and before with other clubs. He played most games for us last season and scored 1 goal and NO ASSISTS. Mbenza (a young lad playing in a foreign country and not speaking the language) may turn out not to be good enough either, but at the moment, with limited match time he has created more goals than Ince in a season. For the record, I was excited when Ince signed and backed him when others had given up on him. But in the end he lacks speed of thought and isn't physically strong or quick enough to get away from Premier league defenders. A great player in the championship, or maybe not this year with Stoke. That’s the point of the debate. Ince would be a great asset to us next season in the Championship. Based on the very little Mbenza has produced so far which player would you prefer to have? The signing of Mbenza was a ridiculous mistake when we should have signed players ready to go in the Premier League. The Stoke fans don't think he's been much of an asset in the Championship
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Post by ponteterrier on Apr 10, 2019 20:59:08 GMT 1
I think Diakhaby and (if here) mbenza, and grant would develop quite well in the championship. Those 3, if they can bond would be terrifying for the opposition.
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Post by royrace on Apr 10, 2019 21:23:15 GMT 1
That’s the point of the debate. Ince would be a great asset to us next season in the Championship. Based on the very little Mbenza has produced so far which player would you prefer to have? The signing of Mbenza was a ridiculous mistake when we should have signed players ready to go in the Premier League. The Stoke fans don't think he's been much of an asset in the Championship Well that must mean he’s crap then, ignore all his previous seasons and rate him based on how he’s doing in a massively under achieving stoke side this season! I’m assuming if fit he’s picked which is an improvement on mbenza. If you played top trumps with these two it would be a white wash! Ince contributed plenty last season whilst falling a little short in quality but compared to mbenza he was an absolute world beater. Biggest waste of of money in the history of this football club but at least you’ll be able to take away that one good cross he made I think he once took on a player at old Trafford too, another one for your scrap book
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 10, 2019 21:51:44 GMT 1
The Stoke fans don't think he's been much of an asset in the Championship Well that must mean he’s crap then, ignore all his previous seasons and rate him based on how he’s doing in a massively under achieving stoke side this season! I’m assuming if fit he’s picked which is an improvement on mbenza. If you played top trumps with these two it would be a white wash! Ince contributed plenty last season whilst falling a little short in quality but compared to mbenza he was an absolute world beater. Biggest waste of of money in the history of this football club but at least you’ll be able to take away that one good cross he made I think he once took on a player at old Trafford too, another one for your scrap book If we haven’t learned from the horrendous mistakes made in the transfer market last Summer then God help us! Do we waste another season waiting for the great hope Mbenza to achieve something? Or get rid and replace with someone who can help us win games?
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 10, 2019 22:21:24 GMT 1
The Stoke fans don't think he's been much of an asset in the Championship Well that must mean he’s crap then, ignore all his previous seasons and rate him based on how he’s doing in a massively under achieving stoke side this season! I’m assuming if fit he’s picked which is an improvement on mbenza. If you played top trumps with these two it would be a white wash! Ince contributed plenty last season whilst falling a little short in quality but compared to mbenza he was an absolute world beater. Biggest waste of of money in the history of this football club but at least you’ll be able to take away that one good cross he made I think he once took on a player at old Trafford too, another one for your scrap book Two things Ince couldn't manage too 😂
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 10, 2019 22:22:16 GMT 1
Well that must mean he’s crap then, ignore all his previous seasons and rate him based on how he’s doing in a massively under achieving stoke side this season! I’m assuming if fit he’s picked which is an improvement on mbenza. If you played top trumps with these two it would be a white wash! Ince contributed plenty last season whilst falling a little short in quality but compared to mbenza he was an absolute world beater. Biggest waste of of money in the history of this football club but at least you’ll be able to take away that one good cross he made I think he once took on a player at old Trafford too, another one for your scrap book If we haven’t learned from the horrendous mistakes made in the transfer market last Summer then God help us! Do we waste another season waiting for the great hope Mbenza to achieve something? Or get rid and replace with someone who can help us win games? We didn't have that before we signed him either
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2019 2:57:11 GMT 1
I think there’s a increasing chance someone will come in for Grant, after that West Ham goal.
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Post by royrace on Apr 11, 2019 7:53:27 GMT 1
We didn't have that before we signed him either Yet managed to win plenty of games and stay in the league! Biggest no brainer of the summer, if we can send him beck, we will. 3M quid plus big wages, wow. Him, sobhi and Diakaby have been the biggest waste of money this club has ever made. I dread to think the £/mins on the pitch ratio. Not to mention if they had been capable players we'd probably still have a good manager and be fighting for survival. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by space hardware on Apr 11, 2019 9:13:25 GMT 1
I think there’s a increasing chance someone will come in for Grant, after that West Ham goal. It wouldn't surprise me, especially if he gets another couple of goals, and wouldn't that just be the perfect end to this season? A real kick to the plums.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 11, 2019 16:21:28 GMT 1
We didn't have that before we signed him either Yet managed to win plenty of games and stay in the league! Biggest no brainer of the summer, if we can send him beck, we will. 3M quid plus big wages, wow. Him, sobhi and Diakaby have been the biggest waste of money this club has ever made. I dread to think the £/mins on the pitch ratio. Not to mention if they had been capable players we'd probably still have a good manager and be fighting for survival. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards The fact that some “visionary “ at the club last summer, thought that signing these three would help keep us in the Premier League is an absolute disgrace. I hope that when Dean admitted recently that “ mistakes have been made” he had the failure of recruitment at the very top of his list.
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