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Post by faffa on Apr 21, 2019 2:43:21 GMT 1
Ever thought that if it is a European consortium involved in the takeover which is very vague I admit and is hardly good info as Europe is massive and there is every chance it’s somebody from Europe. Is there a chance that they were behind Siewert being appointed. In Europe he will have been quite well known I imagine not just in Germany. Highly thought of for bringing through youth, which has been evident already. Totally made up obviously as I know nothing but could it be that people behind a big European club are looking at us as a place to send there players to improve. The championship after all is an excellent league to blood young players, bit like some prem clubs are doing in Europe now. Don’t like to see us as a feeder club but more as an excellent place to bring players on. Excellent training facilities. Even the appointment of the new coach/DOF looks to be in a similar vein. Did well at Barnsley and also well thought of I would imagine in Europe too. Think Siewert will get given a lot longer yet
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Post by terriertim on Apr 21, 2019 5:51:50 GMT 1
Mark Lillis and Gerry Murphy
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Post by Detective Boyle on Apr 21, 2019 6:06:55 GMT 1
Likely to be 1 win and 15 defeats come May. Get him out at end of the season. Useless. Just out of curiosity, how many games did you expect him to win?
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Post by captainblack on Apr 21, 2019 6:07:32 GMT 1
I would like to start by saying I do not want Jan to be sacked and hope that he is trusted to sort out the squad for next season , I think Jan will prove to be an excellent manager but time will tell.
Getting back to the question though, if there was a change of ownership and management I would like to see Nigel Pearson take charge, possibly a controversial figure , but someone who would steady the Town ship in my opinion. I think he has recently been sacked by his club in Belgium , but could be wrong there.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 21, 2019 7:06:05 GMT 1
I would like to start by saying I do not want Jan to be sacked and hope that he is trusted to sort out the squad for next season , I think Jan will prove to be an excellent manager but time will tell. Getting back to the question though, if there was a change of ownership and management I would like to see Nigel Pearson take charge, possibly a controversial figure , but someone who would steady the Town ship in my opinion. I think he has recently been sacked by his club in Belgium , but could be wrong there. People think Siewart has anger issues. Pearson should be locked up somewhere secure in a straight jacket
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Post by terrier10 on Apr 21, 2019 9:13:32 GMT 1
Likely to be 1 win and 15 defeats come May. Get him out at end of the season. Useless. Just out of curiosity, how many games did you expect him to win? Valid point. But in those 15 games we have not seen any reaction at all, in fact, the reaction we have seen is apparent fall outs, random selections and a team even more rudderless than they already were.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 21, 2019 10:08:43 GMT 1
Lots of people are certain that Siewert will be shit in the transfer market. Understandable really, the one signing he's made was a complete waste of £2m on some bloke from League 1.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 21, 2019 10:11:12 GMT 1
Doesn't know who best keeper is Doesn't know best goalkeeper Doesn't know best defence Doesn't know best midfield Doesn't know best forward line Doesnt know best Formation Doesn't know fuck all Sack the clown now I love the fact that you've put "Doesn't know who best keeper is" and "Doesn't know best goalkeeper" as two separate accusations.
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Post by captainblack on Apr 21, 2019 10:20:37 GMT 1
I would like to start by saying I do not want Jan to be sacked and hope that he is trusted to sort out the squad for next season , I think Jan will prove to be an excellent manager but time will tell. Getting back to the question though, if there was a change of ownership and management I would like to see Nigel Pearson take charge, possibly a controversial figure , but someone who would steady the Town ship in my opinion. I think he has recently been sacked by his club in Belgium , but could be wrong there. People think Siewart has anger issues. Pearson should be locked up somewhere secure in a straight jacket I really don't care if they are both a little nutty, I'm a bit of a loon myself , all I care about is if they could be successful managers at Town .
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 21, 2019 10:58:49 GMT 1
We need a manager versed in the championship and Jan is not, my suggestion is we go knocking on the door at Portsmouth and get Kenny Jackett give him a good budget and IMO he will stabilise the fast sinking ship I can understand that but having left the managerial merry-go-round I'm not feeling much of an urge to rejoin it (even though I do rate Kenny Jackett). We knew that JS had no championship experience when we appointed him. The only thing we know now that we didn't then was how he'd approach the remainder of this season.
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Post by royrace on Apr 21, 2019 13:01:50 GMT 1
Lots of people are certain that Siewert will be shit in the transfer market. Understandable really, the one signing he's made was a complete waste of £2m on some bloke from League 1. Jan claiming credit for the Grant signing is hilarious and a little bit tragic all at the same time. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 21, 2019 13:11:20 GMT 1
Jan didn't sign grant. I'd be amazed if he'd even heard of him. Our managers don't sign the players.
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Post by blueandbrightside on Apr 21, 2019 13:23:15 GMT 1
Jan didn't sign grant. I'd be amazed if he'd even heard of him. Our managers don't sign the players. Please remind people of that over the summer and early season if Jan is still here as I’ll bet the first sign they aren’t perceived good enough he’ll definitely be the one that signed them.
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Post by htfcsince70 on Apr 21, 2019 13:26:00 GMT 1
Just out of curiosity, how many games did you expect him to win? Valid point. But in those 15 games we have not seen any reaction at all, in fact, the reaction we have seen is apparent fall outs, random selections and a team even more rudderless than they already were. I wonder how many Fulham were expected to win with parker in charge? The thing is that they have won - which is more than we have looked like doing with the current manager.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 21, 2019 14:02:58 GMT 1
if we are playing the young route, Danny Cowley. totally revamped that team if you look into where they were and how average they were, to now. Brilliant understanding of whats required, unproven at this level but he is very likeable and is a motivator of the highest order I saw Lincoln City about a month ago and I was very impressed with them. Dare I say it, but there were signs of gegenpressing, great passing at times and fantastic spirit. Not averse to being rough and ready when they needed to be, and worked the referee. I think the Cowley’s will stick with them.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 21, 2019 14:04:28 GMT 1
Jan didn't sign grant. I'd be amazed if he'd even heard of him. Our managers don't sign the players. JV. expected Grant Mitchel
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 21, 2019 14:32:06 GMT 1
Lots of people are certain that Siewert will be shit in the transfer market. Understandable really, the one signing he's made was a complete waste of £2m on some bloke from League 1. Jan claiming credit for the Grant signing is hilarious and a little bit tragic all at the same time. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Who signed him then? Bearing in mind that JS has known he was earmarked to take over from DW for quite some time, and that he also knew roughly when he would be taking over, it seems likely to me that he will have had a fair bit of input into the decision to sign Karlan Grant.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 14:39:17 GMT 1
if we are playing the young route, Danny Cowley. totally revamped that team if you look into where they were and how average they were, to now. Brilliant understanding of whats required, unproven at this level but he is very likeable and is a motivator of the highest order I saw Lincoln City about a month ago and I was very impressed with them. Dare I say it, but there were signs of gegenpressing, great passing at times and fantastic spirit. Not averse to being rough and ready when they needed to be, and worked the referee. I think the Cowley’s will stick with them. If and its only an if, say we came in, it would be hard to say no really. Financial position, league etc. Be mad not to, but also very loyal
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Apr 21, 2019 16:23:05 GMT 1
One thing that should be brought up is how our expected goals tally has improved since Siewert came in. Mean average under Wagner this season was 0.64, 0.96 under Siewert. Of course these don't tell the whole story, but an increase of nearly a third is significant. Results aren't telling the full story and there are obvious reasons for this relating to the psychology of the players.
The West Ham game is the most obvious example of one part of this. The players, when put into a winning position, completely panicked because they weren't used to having a position to defend, particularly towards the end of the game when a result is usually out of sight.
Similarly, in broad terms they have known they're relegated upon his appointment. This was an appointment for the future, not a stab at keeping us up. There's been a variety of reactions. Some have downed tools, and some have coasted, all to varying degrees. These two groups have it in the back of their mind that they're off somewhere else in the summer. These groups make up a significant amount of the squad. Another group have been given a chance to prove themselves under JS. Some have taken their chance (Grant, Bacuna, Stankovic) some haven't (Hamer, Mounie, Depoitre) and the jury's still out on some (Mbenza, Diakhaby, then Daly and the other youngsters).
So what we've got there is already a squad of players who are moving in completely different directions. That's not going to make forming a team spirit easy to do straight off the bat. Then look at how senior players have taken to things since the appointment and compare that with what happened initially under Wagner. Hogg's undoubtedly the one in our squad who should be taking up the role Hudson and Whitehead did previously. However his head is all over the place on the pitch and the team are lacking in the leadership he is supposed to be providing.
As a result of all this, combined with an already threadbare squad that has been so ravaged with injuries that until Saturday we didn't have enough available players to play Siewert's preferred 4-3-3 system, it's not a surprise that results haven't come. It's also not a surprise that some of you have turned on him so quickly. I'm fed up with this season too and want it to end. It's not going to end faster by sacking the manager though, and the same players are still going to leave whoever we appoint in his place.
The upcoming summer window promises a lot of incomings as well as outgoings. I'm holding out judgment until Siewert has got in the players he wants to get in, and has given them a chance to gel. I think it's a bit delusional to expect us to bounce back first time. Not many relegated clubs do it, especially not ones with a remit of overhauling the squad. So lets cut out the toxic atmosphere and get behind our manager.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 21, 2019 16:25:29 GMT 1
I would like to start by saying I do not want Jan to be sacked and hope that he is trusted to sort out the squad for next season , I think Jan will prove to be an excellent manager but time will tell. Getting back to the question though, if there was a change of ownership and management I would like to see Nigel Pearson take charge, possibly a controversial figure , but someone who would steady the Town ship in my opinion. I think he has recently been sacked by his club in Belgium , but could be wrong there. Is this a poem?
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Post by yappledapple on Apr 22, 2019 19:45:56 GMT 1
Interesting interview with Jan...
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Post by townatheart on Apr 22, 2019 19:59:00 GMT 1
Interesting interview with Jan... That is worth reading, and the hope is that it is not simply talk talk, and that the club, and we fans, give him what is needed to put it into action. Fully understand many of the concerns expressed by many, but am trying to hold onto a positive hope that he will come good.
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Post by royrace on Apr 22, 2019 21:53:57 GMT 1
Interesting interview with Jan... That is worth reading, and the hope is that it is not simply talk talk, and that the club, and we fans, give him what is needed to put it into action. Fully understand many of the concerns expressed by many, but am trying to hold onto a positive hope that he will come good. Guff. Talk is cheap, I’m still waiting to see any kind of positive signs on the pitch. I can talk about my own footballing philosophy all day long, fact is I couldn’t coach my way out of a paper bag.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Apr 22, 2019 22:10:47 GMT 1
You can’t see his philosophy on the pitch this season.
He talks about being at Dortmund and mentions 2 players but they only have 3 Dortmund II appearances between them and I doubt were training with the second team.
Not writing him off but Jan has done nothing to convince me that he knows what he is doing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 22:16:14 GMT 1
The response to the poll has generated 20 pages but only a couple of hundred votes .I expected thousands .
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Post by royrace on Apr 23, 2019 11:06:20 GMT 1
You can’t see his philosophy on the pitch this season. He talks about being at Dortmund and mentions 2 players but they only have 3 Dortmund II appearances between them and I doubt were training with the second team. Not writing him off but Jan has done nothing to convince me that he knows what he is doing. If that’s true then it is very worrying. Why on earth mention two players which he’s basically had nothing to do with?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 12:09:51 GMT 1
Talks a good game, as we seen when he first came in. Doesnt back it up, kinda like 90% of folk down the pub these days
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Post by Detective Boyle on Apr 23, 2019 12:21:39 GMT 1
That is worth reading, and the hope is that it is not simply talk talk, and that the club, and we fans, give him what is needed to put it into action. Fully understand many of the concerns expressed by many, but am trying to hold onto a positive hope that he will come good. Guff. Talk is cheap, I’m still waiting to see any kind of positive signs on the pitch. I can talk about my own footballing philosophy all day long, fact is I couldn’t coach my way out of a paper bag. The turds on the pitch at this moment in time are unpolishable. Why do you not get that the players are not good enough?? What were you expecting when he came in? We were lucky to stay up last season, and our squad is worse now... the fact we're bottom of the league shouldn't be shocking to anyone, and its nothing Siewert could've avoided.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 23, 2019 12:29:57 GMT 1
Dave Challinor might get the gig
He's got about the same amount of first team management experience as Jan had when he was appointed
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Post by Up the Duff. on Apr 23, 2019 12:34:54 GMT 1
14 points is shocking... Cardiff have twice that with peltier in the team !!!
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