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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 22, 2019 8:18:15 GMT 1
Morning all, time for the 3rd instalment of my honest assessment series that I’ve done twice so far this season with well rounded feedback thus far.
I thought after Siewert’s departure today’s assessment might of alluded to one of a more positive nature, however last nights formation change brought us more possession and that just about it.
Grabara - another good display from this young lad, could of been out of sight before our equaliser, he’s an impressive young keeper who will only improve and thankfully it’s with us (bet he’s thinking the polar opposite right now).
Flo - still can’t defend can he? Great engine and in his defence he looks better in this league than he did in the Prem, still not a patch on what Smith would of been for me.
Kongolo - not going to slag him off because he is still being played out of position, he’s a centre half and the sooner he starts playing there the better.
Elphick - tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb rolled into one. Slow, jaded can’t jump and seemingly can’t defend. Seems laboured and well and truly past it.
Schindler - being dragged down playing next to Elphick. Still a battler and will lay it all on the line unlike others but sadly was at fault tonight.
Chalobah - only one with any positivity tonight. I’ll take back what I said about him in my last review he seemed to have a bit about him tonight and wanted to make something happen it’s a shame the other 9 out there with him didn’t do the same.
Hogg - miles off it. Loves the club and he always gives it his all but is his best good enough now? Lost count of how many times he was dispossessed in dangerous areas and was at fault for the first luckily for Hogg it wasn’t just him.
VLP - massive fan and thought getting his first start we might see what we’ve all been craving, an actual winger beating his man and getting us up the pitch. Now I don’t know if it’s because he hasn’t been starting or what but he looked miles off it, couldn’t get into the game whether this I lack of service it could be argued however it wasn’t his best.
Mbenza - his performances just keep getting worse for me. Upwards of £10 million pounds this lad cost, people rave about his pace, where is it? People rave about his crossing? We’ve seen it once against Burnley when he swung it in for Mounie, I don’t understand what he brings he is literally a full backs dream as they know they’re going to have an easy evening.
Pritchard - Same as VLP, I thought he would seize his chance playing in his preferred ‘10’ position. I thought we’d see glimpses of the Pritchard we signed from Norwich who terrorised this league raking in assists and goals but like his other 9 out field counter parts he was poor and couldn’t get into the game, looks a shadow of his Norwich self.
Grant - sitter in the last minute not even hitting the target, Grant will score goals I’m not going to dispute that but will he bring others into play, hold the ball up, press, hunt and win the ball back and make something happen? I’m yet to see it and I’m not convinced he will.
Subs - I won’t bother as there wasn’t enough time for anything to happen, subs left to late, common theme, Wagner, Siewert now Hudson all reacting too late to change the game.
FWIW - I’ve stated I don’t believe Hudson is the man for the job, let him continue learning to be a coach and maybe one day yes. But for now? No.
We need a big personality someone who has been there and done it and will command respect from this bunch and get his style of play working something that is clear for us in the stands to see.
Well that’s it for this weeks rant, maybe Saturdays will be the positive one we’re all waiting for ?
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 22, 2019 8:19:34 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point
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Post by capitalterrier on Aug 22, 2019 8:22:51 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point And Stoke are bottom |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 22, 2019 8:25:02 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Siewert because trying to coach this bunch of players must have been soul destroying.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 22, 2019 8:27:24 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point And Stoke are bottom And we're flying high? |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 22, 2019 8:27:59 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point The same Smith that got in the Championship team of the season yes? that Smith. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 8:36:54 GMT 1
Grabara - How many clean sheets have we kept so far?
Flo - Lightweight, gets pushed off the ball. Can't defend. NOT a championship player.
Kongolo - NOT a left back. NOT a 17m pound player. Cebtre half that we overpaid for.
Elphick - tChris Lucketti; get kongolo at centre half and Elphick on the bench and try to get another CB in on loan.
Schindler - No pace, was showed up massively last year and it continues this year.
Chalobah - Was at ipswich last year, Mooy replacement? come on...
Hogg - Slow, always due a yellow. a thankless task with no quality around him.
VLP - Needs to play to get us up the pitch. cant be worse than our other wingers.
Mbenza - 10m... wow... get a PL loan player to replace.
Pritchard - cant score, cant assist, no pace, cant tackle, cant win balls int he air. 10m? come on... get a PL loan to replace.
Grant - Will score at this level and probably be sold in Jan or next May
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 22, 2019 8:38:01 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point The same Smith that got in the Championship team of the season yes? that Smith. 3 years ago |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:31:50 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point The same Smith that got in the Championship team of the season yes? that Smith. To be fair i would have had Smith ahead of Flo but 1) Smith, just like Mooy, didn't want to be here. Not helped by being stripped of the captaincy mid season i would guess. 2) If we got £4m for him, that is a good deal in my opinion. Like most of our players, he is probably low on confidence, and moving to another team low on confidence won't help him. The sad thing is our options at right back aren't great after Flo. It's Bockhorn, Bacuna or Duhaney i guess. Maybe we look at 3 at the back as the way forward as we don't have any options at left back either. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 22, 2019 9:34:05 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Siewert because trying to coach this bunch of players must have been soul destroying. I don't, he wasn't good enough and should never have got the job in rhe first place. How many other pl clubs would appoint a non league German manager? |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 22, 2019 9:40:13 GMT 1
Grabara: good shot stopper but wish he'd stop punching it when he could catch it.
Flo: had a good game last night, and defended at least as well as anyone else, you all need a new scapegoat.
Kongolo: poor game
Elphick: gives me palpatations
Hogg: continues to be a problem
Mbenza: was he playing?
Pritchard: will be good when we can support the attack with more bodies
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Post by artysid on Aug 22, 2019 9:45:22 GMT 1
Is there a solution short term regardless of who becomes the Manager?
I doubt it, this set of players look shot to pieces.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 22, 2019 10:00:56 GMT 1
I feel sorry for Siewert because trying to coach this bunch of players must have been soul destroying. I don't, he wasn't good enough and should never have got the job in rhe first place. How many other pl clubs would appoint a non league German manager? it is true. it's almost like it was a part of a plan to sink the club. Never mind we can all be happy with the knowledge that town might be financially OK in league one. That does not excuse the players giving up though. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 22, 2019 10:09:59 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 22, 2019 10:14:13 GMT 1
Is there a solution short term regardless of who becomes the Manager? I doubt it, this set of players look shot to pieces. Sadly I have to confirm that the blindingly obvious is that Elphick cannot play in this division. We are at least 2 possibly 3 years too late bringing him in. It's causing us unnecessary problems and I just don't see it going away over time. The standard of goals we concede is appalling for a 2nd tier club, but they have been for 3 seasons at least now. Full enema of the coaching staff first followed by a severe window regarding moving on quite a few players, taking hits if we have to. The continuing on with the same staff and squad even with a new manager will probably now not work. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 22, 2019 10:18:47 GMT 1
Lets hope he's a get of his arse and go and watch them type of bloke and not a bloke who relies on overly edited highlights videos and meaningless stats. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 22, 2019 10:19:18 GMT 1
One of our biggest issues at the moment is that We've got a striker who can't retain the ball. On the few occasions that he does he ends up 30 yards nearer to his goal than when he received it
1 goal from open play in 4 games isn't enough to keep him in when it's to the detriment of our play. Start Campbell on Saturday and see if he helps up get further up the pitch for longer spells
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Post by royrace on Aug 22, 2019 10:21:48 GMT 1
The only positive for me is that Hudson has had less than a week to get his ideas across. The team has been coached by Jan for well over six months. Expecting a good performance last night was probably unrealistic. Hopefully it's a matter of time before we see improvement on the pitch.
The squad is good enough to compete even when factoring in the ridiculous decisions and appalling recruitment.
Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 22, 2019 10:45:57 GMT 1
In my little opinion we are a team of overpaid misfits and have no plan or tactics along with a past it old defender !
Just play the young lads ! Cant be worse
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 22, 2019 10:57:37 GMT 1
Kongolo has to play centre back..
Elphick is fooked..
Flo could play left back..
He did a few games in prem..
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Post by Hazza on Aug 22, 2019 10:59:18 GMT 1
One of our biggest issues at the moment is that We've got a striker who can't retain the ball. On the few occasions that he does he ends up 30 yards nearer to his goal than when he received it 1 goal from open play in 4 games isn't enough to keep him in when it's to the detriment of our play. Start Campbell on Saturday and see if he helps up get further up the pitch for longer spells Grant was truly awful last night. No link up play at all. Let alone the miss at the end. Either he needs a partner or replacing. Preferably the former as He will score goals |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 22, 2019 11:05:29 GMT 1
I'm glad he sees his main area of expertise in the recruitment department of his overall DOFO tasks. Think he has a CV to back it up, too. Positve news it would seem. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 22, 2019 13:53:09 GMT 1
Is that the Smith that can’t get in Stokes side? I stopped reading at that point The same Smith that got in the Championship team of the season yes? that Smith. Clutching at straws there mate. Bottom of the table at Stoke and can’t get in the side already |
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Post by impact on Aug 22, 2019 16:36:59 GMT 1
The same Smith that got in the Championship team of the season yes? that Smith. To be fair i would have had Smith ahead of Flo but 1) Smith, just like Mooy, didn't want to be here. Not helped by being stripped of the captaincy mid season i would guess. 2) If we got £4m for him, that is a good deal in my opinion. Like most of our players, he is probably low on confidence, and moving to another team low on confidence won't help him. The sad thing is our options at right back aren't great after Flo. It's Bockhorn, Bacuna or Duhaney i guess. Maybe we look at 3 at the back as the way forward as we don't have any options at left back either. I would wager money Smith lost the captaincy because he wanted out, rather than the other way round. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 17:00:00 GMT 1
While I won't argue with a lot of that, your misuse of the word 'of' grates on me like nails scraping down a blackboard. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 17:11:55 GMT 1
Grabara - How many clean sheets have we kept so far? Flo - Lightweight, gets pushed off the ball. Can't defend. NOT a championship player. Kongolo - NOT a left back. NOT a 17m pound player. Cebtre half that we overpaid for. Elphick - tChris Lucketti; get kongolo at centre half and Elphick on the bench and try to get another CB in on loan. Schindler - No pace, was showed up massively last year and it continues this year. Chalobah - Was at ipswich last year, Mooy replacement? come on... Hogg - Slow, always due a yellow. a thankless task with no quality around him. VLP - Needs to play to get us up the pitch. cant be worse than our other wingers. Mbenza - 10m... wow... get a PL loan player to replace. Pritchard - cant score, cant assist, no pace, cant tackle, cant win balls int he air. 10m? come on... get a PL loan to replace. Grant - Will score at this level and probably be sold in Jan or next May Considering your assessment of the ten in front of him how many clean sheets were you expecting? |
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