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Post by terrier17 on Feb 6, 2022 14:11:11 GMT 1
Could an idea be moving away fans to the south end of Kilner and move coach parking etc to the opposite side nearer to the turnstiles there.
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Post by swam4mwg on Feb 6, 2022 14:30:06 GMT 1
Plod caused most of the problems after the game. Not sure what they were trying to achieve there. They basically brought both sets of fans together by stopping everyone from moving. Got a bit lively.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 6, 2022 14:31:16 GMT 1
Could it be an idea for the police to arrest and charge the stupid fuckers involved in this pathetic, anti-social behaviour and for the club to ban them? Then the rest of us can get on with supporting our club.
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Post by stevecato64 on Feb 6, 2022 14:31:19 GMT 1
I live in Manchester and close to Old Trafford, I know they keep away fans in there for a good while…
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2022 14:33:49 GMT 1
I live in Manchester and close to Old Trafford, I know they keep away fans in there for a good while… Probably because the home fans have much further to go to get home.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2022 14:39:20 GMT 1
Could an idea be moving away fans to the south end of Kilner and move coach parking etc to the opposite side nearer to the turnstiles there. how about some of these morons grew up now that would be a result!
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Post by Dan on Feb 6, 2022 14:41:46 GMT 1
Think what it needs is every single fan to be given their own 5 minute time slot to exit the ground in their own police escort, complete with full body length bubble wrap to cover themselves in as well as ear muffs so they don't hear any nasty words.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2022 14:42:33 GMT 1
In all seriousness though. I'm usually on the side of football supporters in general - still never forgiven Thatcher for demonising them. But between recent incidents and some really insidious stuff swirling around social media (from supporters of ALL clubs), feels like there's been a noticeable change in mood over the last year or two.
My theory is that it's a whole load of pent-up frustration - that in some cases leads to anger - thanks to lockdowns and the pandemic. Just to be 100% clear - I'm not trying to start a conversation about lockdowns or Covid. I just reckon it's a big factor - I may be wrong - but if that's the case, then you'd hope that it'll calm down before long.
Obviously dickheads will still be dickheads, but as always - it's just a minority.
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Post by swam4mwg on Feb 6, 2022 14:55:47 GMT 1
In all seriousness though. I'm usually on the side of football supporters in general - still never forgiven Thatcher for demonising them. But between recent incidents and some really insidious stuff swirling around social media (from supporters of ALL clubs), feels like there's been a noticeable change in mood over the last year or two. My theory is that it's a whole load of pent-up frustration - that in some cases leads to anger - thanks to lockdowns and the pandemic. Just to be 100% clear - I'm not trying to start a conversation about lockdowns or Covid. I just reckon it's a big factor - I may be wrong - but if that's the case, then you'd hope that it'll calm down before long. Obviously dickheads will still be dickheads, but as always - it's just a minority. A lot of Town fans are frustrated and angry even when Town are winning. Listening to some of them baffles me. As for the trouble yesterday, there is a history of trouble between Barnsley and Town. Doesn't take much to ignite it.
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Post by wigster on Feb 6, 2022 15:03:37 GMT 1
Plod caused most of the problems after the game. Not sure what they were trying to achieve there. They basically brought both sets of fans together by stopping everyone from moving. Got a bit lively. Been to, literally, hundreds and hundreds of Town matches and never yet seen a policeman/woman (sorry "plod") throwing a bottle or flare, fighting, standing there in a (pathetic) macho attitude,or threatening me. There may have been violence/fighting (sorry "got a bit lively") but the police don't cause that. Certain immature rather stupid supporters cause it - as though hurting an opposition supporter (sorry "giving them a slapping")shows how they are to be admired. When it does happen I personally am delighted that the police are there to protect me - I didn't realise they caused it...
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Post by capitalterrier on Feb 6, 2022 15:09:56 GMT 1
Simple solution would be to have police confiscate season cards from these pillocks if/when they're caught getting involved.
Communicate it clearly beforehand and then there can be no argument.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2022 15:16:37 GMT 1
In all seriousness though. I'm usually on the side of football supporters in general - still never forgiven Thatcher for demonising them. But between recent incidents and some really insidious stuff swirling around social media (from supporters of ALL clubs), feels like there's been a noticeable change in mood over the last year or two. My theory is that it's a whole load of pent-up frustration - that in some cases leads to anger - thanks to lockdowns and the pandemic. Just to be 100% clear - I'm not trying to start a conversation about lockdowns or Covid. I just reckon it's a big factor - I may be wrong - but if that's the case, then you'd hope that it'll calm down before long. Obviously dickheads will still be dickheads, but as always - it's just a minority. A lot of Town fans are frustrated and angry even when Town are winning. Listening to some of them baffles me. As for the trouble yesterday, there is a history of trouble between Barnsley and Town. Doesn't take much to ignite it. Ain't that the truth. Weird.
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Post by 28901 on Feb 6, 2022 15:19:58 GMT 1
In all seriousness though. I'm usually on the side of football supporters in general - still never forgiven Thatcher for demonising them. But between recent incidents and some really insidious stuff swirling around social media (from supporters of ALL clubs), feels like there's been a noticeable change in mood over the last year or two. My theory is that it's a whole load of pent-up frustration - that in some cases leads to anger - thanks to lockdowns and the pandemic. Just to be 100% clear - I'm not trying to start a conversation about lockdowns or Covid. I just reckon it's a big factor - I may be wrong - but if that's the case, then you'd hope that it'll calm down before long. Obviously dickheads will still be dickheads, but as always - it's just a minority. A lot of Town fans are frustrated and angry even when Town are winning. Listening to some of them baffles me. As for the trouble yesterday, there is a history of trouble between Barnsley and Town. Doesn't take much to ignite it. I dont think there is now. There used to be early 80s for sure but we're quite matey now especially after the non relegation season
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 6, 2022 15:32:20 GMT 1
A lot of Town fans are frustrated and angry even when Town are winning. Listening to some of them baffles me. As for the trouble yesterday, there is a history of trouble between Barnsley and Town. Doesn't take much to ignite it. Ain't that the truth. Weird. There's an old dude on the row behind, who I suspect is actually a nice chap, but he's always making snidey remarks about the team. Yesterday he as good as said everyone else must be shit with how well we're doing 😆 As for the gobshite who isn't usually there who was shouting "forward" every bloody minute 🙈
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Post by stevecato64 on Feb 6, 2022 15:36:35 GMT 1
Imagine how friendly they would have been if either team were relegated that day, there would have been carnage.. Not a Yorkshire love in…
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Feb 6, 2022 15:53:05 GMT 1
WYP are a firm of themselves they want trouble we’ve been saying keep the away fans in for 15 mins for decades to clear the concourse etc etc it’s not rocket science.... so why don’t they , what’s the problem, is it monetary, I’ve worked at the club never got a straight answer to this except that keeping the away fans in makes them annoyed and angry ? But so what if there’s no one to fight get them on the coaches walk them to the cars and trains bloody hell it’s easy to police surely
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Post by willo on Feb 6, 2022 16:30:04 GMT 1
WYP are a firm of themselves they want trouble we’ve been saying keep the away fans in for 15 mins for decades to clear the concourse etc etc it’s not rocket science.... so why don’t they , what’s the problem, is it monetary, I’ve worked at the club never got a straight answer to this except that keeping the away fans in makes them annoyed and angry ? But so what if there’s no one to fight get them on the coaches walk them to the cars and trains bloody hell it’s easy to police surely We were kept in years ago at away games for maybe 10-15 mins after the final whistle, you knew the reason why and you just got used to it. Once the rest of stadium was emptied of home supporters, you were let out. It’s not rocket science and surely the police cost wouldn’t increase for the sake of 15 mins. If we have to return to this because a few divs can’t behave themselves - and assuming you can read, you know who you are - so be it.
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Post by sabailand on Feb 6, 2022 16:31:50 GMT 1
Ain't that the truth. Weird. There's an old dude on the row behind, who I suspect is actually a nice chap, but he's always making snidey remarks about the team. Yesterday he as good as said everyone else must be shit with how well we're doing 😆 As for the gobshite who isn't usually there who was shouting "forward" every bloody minute 🙈 Yesterday late in the game Sorba Thomas had a shot and the keeper made a good save, bloke behind me said 'garbage', i had to say summat.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 16:35:02 GMT 1
WYP are a firm of themselves they want trouble we’ve been saying keep the away fans in for 15 mins for decades to clear the concourse etc etc it’s not rocket science.... so why don’t they , what’s the problem, is it monetary, I’ve worked at the club never got a straight answer to this except that keeping the away fans in makes them annoyed and angry ? But so what if there’s no one to fight get them on the coaches walk them to the cars and trains bloody hell it’s easy to police surely I think we all had thought that the fuckwits had been marginalised and moved away from the stadiums and surrounds so normal people could go to football matches. We're we wrong?? Maybe... As I said if you need policing to stop you being a fuckwit then you are the problem.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 16:37:42 GMT 1
There's an old dude on the row behind, who I suspect is actually a nice chap, but he's always making snidey remarks about the team. Yesterday he as good as said everyone else must be shit with how well we're doing 😆 As for the gobshite who isn't usually there who was shouting "forward" every bloody minute 🙈 Yesterday late in then game Sorba Thomas had a shot and the keeper made a good save, bloke behind me said 'garbage', i had to say summat. Sorba would have been responsible for at least 2 Barnsley goals had they made more of their possession near our goal. He gives up chasing back and he switches off so regularly and his man just walks off him. Gotta be better we don't have wingers just attacking anymore.
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Post by bluebeard on Feb 6, 2022 16:41:10 GMT 1
Saw fighting on St Andrews road before and after the match. The two incidents that I saw It had nothing to do with the police goading anyone. But I'd agree there was some bizarre tactics from them used ( was that cordrone about in the car park). It was two groups of young lads intent on fighting each other. Town fans after the game were probably the instigators if anything I thought they were Town fans in that cordon, if not what was it all about it was getting nasty and if they were Barnsley fans that means that they were then surrounded by Town fans. To me, the Police seemed to be losing it with that cordon yesterday and the Police horses had all on to maintain order. I remember one thing from the trouble at matches in the 70's/80's the Police dogs you didn't mess with them and it use to maintain order, you don't see them anymore at football matches are they another product of Teresa May's cut backs.
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Post by sabailand on Feb 6, 2022 16:52:41 GMT 1
Saw fighting on St Andrews road before and after the match. The two incidents that I saw It had nothing to do with the police goading anyone. But I'd agree there was some bizarre tactics from them used ( was that cordrone about in the car park). It was two groups of young lads intent on fighting each other. Town fans after the game were probably the instigators if anything I thought they were Town fans in that cordon, if not what was it all about it was getting nasty and if they were Barnsley fans that means that they were then surrounded by Town fans. To me, the Police seemed to be losing it with that cordon yesterday and the Police horses had all on to maintain order. I remember one thing from the trouble at matches in the 70's/80's the Police dogs you didn't mess with them and it use to maintain order, you don't see them anymore at football matches are they another product of Teresa May's cut backs. Dont know but if a dog took a bight out of an unruly fan the fan might start to cry and sue.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 6, 2022 17:11:04 GMT 1
Of course of it did. Our hoardes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it Do we have hoards of idiots? Its ususlly a safe place to visit. Most away games I go to we have 20/25 children drunk, being dickheads
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Feb 6, 2022 17:12:49 GMT 1
Could an idea be moving away fans to the south end of Kilner and move coach parking etc to the opposite side nearer to the turnstiles there. how about some of these morons grew up now that would be a result! Not going to happen there kids will be there 16 years or so
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Post by htfctx on Feb 6, 2022 17:24:38 GMT 1
What is wrong with away fans in the popular lower north stand? Bottom level exit one direction, upper deck exit in the opposite direction?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 6, 2022 17:27:09 GMT 1
What is wrong with away fans in the popular lower north stand? Bottom level exit one direction, upper deck exit in the opposite direction? Where would the put the coaches and how would they keep the fans apart around the back between the stand and the cinema 🤔
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Post by htfctx on Feb 6, 2022 17:37:56 GMT 1
What is wrong with away fans in the popular lower north stand? Bottom level exit one direction, upper deck exit in the opposite direction? Where would the put the coaches and how would they keep the fans apart around the back between the stand and the cinema 🤔 Keep away fans behind and escort them to the coaches?
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Post by willo on Feb 6, 2022 17:39:58 GMT 1
What is wrong with away fans in the popular lower north stand? Bottom level exit one direction, upper deck exit in the opposite direction? Where would the put the coaches and how would they keep the fans apart around the back between the stand and the cinema 🤔 Also that’s right next to the family area and you don’t want the goading clowns anywhere near that area if it can be helped.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 17:55:46 GMT 1
Seems like many accept some levels of fuckwittery at football matches??
I guarantee you that the levels now don't have to get within a tenth of what they were before, before football crowds are made examples of.
A minority was never a good enough excuse for the old fuckwittery, it certainly won't be now.
We had a season of football just on TV, it could well be a trial run along with all the other 'social studies' that took place?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 6, 2022 18:19:24 GMT 1
We keep being told in all aspects of our life that what was acceptable 50 years ago is not necessarily acceptable now. Not allowed to tell jokes about certain subjects etc.
Yesterday, walking past the coaches amongst the scuffles and aggressive behaviour, it occurred to me that harmless elderly people, families and lots of women ( it’s a fact that more women attend games now) had to endure this stupid childish behaviour by “fans” from both teams, as they headed home in the pouring rain.
But let’s not kid ourselves that this is only caused by 16 year old’s. I’ve personally witnessed aggro caused by blokes in their 50’s at the last 3 home games on the walk back into town after the game.
Instead of criticising the police they should be supported to go in hard and fast to route out these people , punish them and give them life bans.
Times have changed - deal with it.
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