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Post by stevecato64 on Feb 6, 2022 11:49:46 GMT 1
Is there a reason we can’t hold back the away fans for 15 mins at the end.. It would stop that bottle neck and incidents in the coach park area..
Yesterday was like a return to the past according to some.. It’s always a little more lively for FA cup games..
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 6, 2022 11:55:56 GMT 1
If they want to knock ten shades of shite our of each other, let them.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 12:06:44 GMT 1
If they want to knock ten shades of shite our of each other, let them. If they wish to meet up a long way away from the proper people attending a football match let them get on with it. At a football match or any other public event it was always mindless and it still is. If you need to be policed then there is something wrong between your ears. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Feb 6, 2022 12:07:43 GMT 1
The police seem to have new tactics which aren’t helping in my opinion Yesterday I stayed back to watch the  and after match celebrations. So I left 5-10 mins after the game and expected most Barnsley fans would be half way up Leeds road Instead when I came out there were dozens of police by the coaches clogging up the Barnsley fans trying to leave, they were stood in the driving rain getting soaked just wanting to get home Then theres a tiny minority of towns fans baiting them with “Barnsley get battered every week”. The police were marching around batons drawn basically shouting at people which I’m not sure helped. They were also zealous before kick off with two vans speeding around st Andrews car park, half a dozen police horses charging down st Andrews car park hill … and no sign of a big incident that i could see let alone something major given the police response Time for the police to row back to tactics that worked. I didn’t see much common sense policing yesterday, and I say that as a fan who has been to around a thousand games stretching back to the early 90s when there was more trouble |
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Post by softboy on Feb 6, 2022 12:13:45 GMT 1
It ws some of the worst trouble i have seen this season all the way up to railway station the main problem is that the away fans come out and have home fans either side and the police have very little idea what to do other than watch on and let it happen I think crowd trouble on a regular basis is now back to stay
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Post by huddersfc on Feb 6, 2022 12:15:05 GMT 1
If they want to knock ten shades of shite our of each other, let them. If they wish to meet up a long way away from the proper people attending a football match let them get on with it. At a football match or any other public event it was always mindless and it still is. If you need to be policed then there is something wrong between your ears. The problem is they won't meet miles from the ground. They would shit themselves as they don't have the police there. Its easy to goad people and act all Billy big bollocks when you know there are police there to stop them coming for you and vice versa. What tough guys. |
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Post by Lovechops on Feb 6, 2022 12:15:25 GMT 1
The police seem to have new tactics which aren’t helping in my opinion Yesterday I stayed back to watch the and after match celebrations. So I left 5-10 mins after the game and expected most Barnsley fans would be half way up Leeds road Instead when I came out there were dozens of police by the coaches clogging up the Barnsley fans trying to leave, they were stood in the driving rain getting soaked just wanting to get home Then theres a tiny minority of towns fans baiting them with “Barnsley get battered every week”. The police were marching around batons drawing basically shouting at people which I’m not sure helped. They were also zealous before kick off with two vans speeding around st Andrews car park, half a dozen police horses charging down st Andrews car park hill … and no sign of a big incident that i could see let alone something major given the police response Time for the police to row back to tactics that worked. I didn’t see much common sense policing yesterday, and I say that as a fan who has been to around a thousand games stretching back to the early 90s when there was more trouble It was the same when we played Barnsley at their place earlier , the only people causing situations were the police! |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 12:28:11 GMT 1
The police seem to have new tactics which aren’t helping in my opinion Yesterday I stayed back to watch the and after match celebrations. So I left 5-10 mins after the game and expected most Barnsley fans would be half way up Leeds road Instead when I came out there were dozens of police by the coaches clogging up the Barnsley fans trying to leave, they were stood in the driving rain getting soaked just wanting to get home Then theres a tiny minority of towns fans baiting them with “Barnsley get battered every week”. The police were marching around batons drawing basically shouting at people which I’m not sure helped. They were also zealous before kick off with two vans speeding around st Andrews car park, half a dozen police horses charging down st Andrews car park hill … and no sign of a big incident that i could see let alone something major given the police response Time for the police to row back to tactics that worked. I didn’t see much common sense policing yesterday, and I say that as a fan who has been to around a thousand games stretching back to the early 90s when there was more trouble It was the same when we played Barnsley at their place earlier , the only people causing situations were the police! Look around the games yesterday, teams taken off, fuckwits running onto the pitch and going at players.. Bottles coming onto the pitch. See the reaction in the media to all this and think about what's happened in the last 2 years with our 'freedoms'. They need new targets for this 'safe' approach to every part of our lives and they have millions more living in fear of everything from a virus to high gas prices, football will become another of the big 'distractions' from us being fucked over. They will HAVE to implement all the old restrictions at football matches, you can feel it coming. The fans, or some of them are going to just help them out and we will go backwards.. |
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Post by orinoco on Feb 6, 2022 12:29:33 GMT 1
Police have never treated football fans like human beings, all tarred with the same brush.
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Post by tvor on Feb 6, 2022 12:31:05 GMT 1
The police seem to have new tactics which aren’t helping in my opinion Yesterday I stayed back to watch the  and after match celebrations. So I left 5-10 mins after the game and expected most Barnsley fans would be half way up Leeds road Instead when I came out there were dozens of police by the coaches clogging up the Barnsley fans trying to leave, they were stood in the driving rain getting soaked just wanting to get home Then theres a tiny minority of towns fans baiting them with “Barnsley get battered every week”. The police were marching around batons drawing basically shouting at people which I’m not sure helped. They were also zealous before kick off with two vans speeding around st Andrews car park, half a dozen police horses charging down st Andrews car park hill … and no sign of a big incident that i could see let alone something major given the police response Time for the police to row back to tactics that worked. I didn’t see much common sense policing yesterday, and I say that as a fan who has been to around a thousand games stretching back to the early 90s when there was more trouble They stopped everyone going up the ramp to allow people in the south stand to disperse. In trying to stop a bottle neck on the bridge, they created one where the away coaches park with significant number of away fans. This doesn’t mean the people fighting are blameless but they need to have a rethink on why they are there. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 6, 2022 12:37:08 GMT 1
Police have nevervyreated football fans like human beings, all tarred with the same brush. You have just tarred all police with the same brush. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Feb 6, 2022 12:41:26 GMT 1
There was a massive brawl just where the path meets the ramp so both set of fans mixing but yesterday was different. It all started with some mouthy Barnsley fans
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Post by rockwall on Feb 6, 2022 12:50:19 GMT 1
Police were a disgrace yesterday after the game.
Saw numerous police goading both sets of fans and winding them up.
At one point 3 just stood watching a brawl outside gas club.
No police, no trouble.
Over zealous police, lots of trouble.
Coincidence?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 6, 2022 12:51:39 GMT 1
There was a massive brawl just where the path meets the ramp so both set of fans mixing but yesterday was different. It all started with some mouthy Barnsley fans Of course it did. Our hordes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it |
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Post by terrierneil on Feb 6, 2022 12:57:48 GMT 1
I've never once felt unsafe at a home game. Seen more aggro in local cafe.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 13:02:23 GMT 1
Truth is you don't have to do anything to get fuckwits being fuckwits and they know it. Fans need to realise they will be the only ones blamed whatever happens and the TV becomes more and more important to the game until eventually it is the game.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Feb 6, 2022 13:05:36 GMT 1
Saw fighting on St Andrews road before and after the match. The two incidents that I saw It had nothing to do with the police goading anyone. But I'd agree there was some bizarre tactics from them used (  was that cordrone about in the car park). It was two groups of young lads intent on fighting each other. Town fans after the game were probably the instigators if anything |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 13:05:50 GMT 1
I've never once felt unsafe at a home game. Seen more aggro in local cafe. It does not matter how safe you and thousands of others 'feel', those who feel unsafe will win the day. The world has changed. The drip, drip of racial abuse, incidents of disorder, pitch incursions and bottle throwing will build. It's something else to add to the things we NEED keeping safe from by restriction or bans. |
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Post by willo on Feb 6, 2022 13:08:53 GMT 1
I've never once felt unsafe at a home game. Seen more aggro in local cafe. We never see any trouble either but we come along Leeds Rd and outside of if we’re playing lufc or bcfc (if anyone can remember that far back 😆), away fans come in from the other direction. The authorities are just going to have to start keeping away fans in the ground for 10-15 mins after full time again to avoid any bother. Certainly none of our lot will have hung around in the rain yesterday for a chance to confront their lot had this happened. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Feb 6, 2022 13:12:37 GMT 1
There was a massive brawl just where the path meets the ramp so both set of fans mixing but yesterday was different. It all started with some mouthy Barnsley fans Of course of it did. Our hoardes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it Where you there!! i was just saying how it started and a large group of Town fans were a disgrace yesterday and from what i was told before the game in the car park some poor lad got a right beating covered in blood. There was a lot of Police there yesterday but very poorly organized, there was a right brawl behind what was once the Sports centre it went on for ages apparently with no Police about, someone was laid out unconscious. |
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Post by 28901 on Feb 6, 2022 13:18:00 GMT 1
There was a massive brawl just where the path meets the ramp so both set of fans mixing but yesterday was different. It all started with some mouthy Barnsley fans Of course of it did. Our hoardes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it Do we have hoards of idiots? Its ususlly a safe place to visit. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 13:19:02 GMT 1
Of course of it did. Our hoardes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it Where you there!! i was just saying how it started and a large group of Town fans were a disgrace yesterday and from what i was told before the game in the car park some poor lad got a right beating covered in blood. There was a lot of Police there yesterday but very poorly organized, there was a right brawl behind what was once the Sports centre it went on for ages apparently with no Police about, someone was laid out unconscious. Think you answered the question there. No police and disorder up and down. We will NEED heavy policing again. We will NEED restrictions on away travel etc, the country will be media led into supporting these desperately NEEDED actions against the scourge of football fans making others FEEL unsafe again. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Feb 6, 2022 13:20:02 GMT 1
Of course of it did. Our hoardes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it Where you there!! i was just saying how it started and a large group of Town fans were a disgrace yesterday and from what i was told before the game in the car park some poor lad got a right beating covered in blood. There was a lot of Police there yesterday but very poorly organized, there was a right brawl behind what was once the Sports centre it went on for ages apparently with no Police about, someone was laid out unconscious. When I was walking down there was a young lad with blood pouring from his nose surrounded by police. |
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Post by 28901 on Feb 6, 2022 13:20:36 GMT 1
I've never once felt unsafe at a home game. Seen more aggro in local cafe. Same. I walk out up north end of Kilner behind FM stand. Rarely even see an away fan. If anyone is concerned just leave that way. |
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Post by willo on Feb 6, 2022 13:22:45 GMT 1
Of course of it did. Our hoardes of idiots who are out in force every game will have had nothing whatsoever to do with it Do we have hoards of idiots? Its ususlly a safe place to visit. It’ll be the £10 admission fee that brought them out yesterday. |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Feb 6, 2022 13:30:54 GMT 1
I use to park my car in the Canalside and never saw any trouble unless we played Leeds/Bradford, now i park off Fitzwilliam street and there has been problems against Swansea, Hull, Stoke but nothing on the scale of yesterday and yesterday looking around you to see who was who!! idiots running about with scarfs covering their faces.
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Post by terrierneil on Feb 6, 2022 13:32:08 GMT 1
I've never once felt unsafe at a home game. Seen more aggro in local cafe. It does not matter how safe you and thousands of others 'feel', those who feel unsafe will win the day. The world has changed. The drip, drip of racial abuse, incidents of disorder, pitch incursions and bottle throwing will build. It's something else to add to the things we NEED keeping safe from by restriction or bans. LOL get a grip |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 6, 2022 13:49:24 GMT 1
It does not matter how safe you and thousands of others 'feel', those who feel unsafe will win the day. The world has changed. The drip, drip of racial abuse, incidents of disorder, pitch incursions and bottle throwing will build. It's something else to add to the things we NEED keeping safe from by restriction or bans. LOL get a grip Said that for 2 years, nobody with any influence did. If you don't see shit coming you get shit on. |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Feb 6, 2022 13:53:55 GMT 1
It's not Rocket Science. Keep the away fans in 10-15 mins. Then put a barrier of stewards and police on the ramp and the exit to the coaches from the south stand. Preferably with a couple of police dog handlers in the mix. Then escort any that are left going up to the station.
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Post by bluestripe on Feb 6, 2022 14:10:14 GMT 1
It's not Rocket Science. Keep the away fans in 10-15 mins. Then put a barrier of stewards and police on the ramp and the exit to the coaches from the south stand. Preferably with a couple of police dog handlers in the mix. Then escort any that are left going up to the station. Are police still allowed to keep fans back? Wasn't it challenged as "infringing human rights"? I could have dreamt it though. |
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and after match celebrations. So I left 5-10 mins after the game and expected most Barnsley fans would be half way up Leeds road
and after match celebrations. So I left 5-10 mins after the game and expected most Barnsley fans would be half way up Leeds road
was that cordrone about in the car park).
