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Post by York Terrier on Apr 2, 2022 10:03:47 GMT 1
We have done really well in the transfer market recently but a 3 year contract for Jordan appears to be something of a fools errand. He is just a shadow of the footballer we had all Those years ago no pace poor control and unfortunately brings virtually nothing to the team. Whatever happens this season we need to recruit two new forwards to replace Rhodes and FC who I guess will not be offered another contract.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 2, 2022 10:16:59 GMT 1
Invisible yesterday, can’t see him improving over the next two years.
Need to ship him out ASAP to a lower level where he may still have a career, can only see it happening if we cover a fair bit of his wages though.
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 2, 2022 10:18:01 GMT 1
It might help if he he gets better service.
Until that happens, don’t judge him (and certainly not after very few starts in the Team).
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 2, 2022 10:20:37 GMT 1
It might help if he he gets better service. Until that happens, don’t judge him (and certainly not after very few starts in the Team). Has Danny Ward had better service ? He seems to be doing OK. Rhodes is a club legend but unfortunately gone at the game
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 2, 2022 10:20:43 GMT 1
Fair comment, a few times yesterday we knocked balls into space beyond him for him to try run onto. We need to get the best we can out of him and that is not his strength.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 2, 2022 10:22:58 GMT 1
Fair comment, a few times yesterday we knocked balls into space beyond him for him to try run onto. We need to get the best we can out of him and that is not his strength. You can't expect a team lying third in the league to completely alter its style and formation just to accommodate a guy who's scored about 15 goals in 5 years
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Post by sonny on Apr 2, 2022 10:25:53 GMT 1
He can't run, can't win or hold up the ball and doesn't score. Apart from that he's been great.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 2, 2022 10:28:48 GMT 1
Fair comment, a few times yesterday we knocked balls into space beyond him for him to try run onto. We need to get the best we can out of him and that is not his strength. You can't expect a team lying third in the league to completely alter its style and formation just to accommodate a guy who's scored about 15 goals in 5 years Brother Ted, we’re in agreement. Look at my first comment on this thread. Personally, if Grant was fit I’d play him ahead of Rhodes as an unknown quantity. Every team knows Rhodes is shot. Defenders just need to get tight to stop him winning the first ball, they can push right up on him.
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Post by runner76 on Apr 2, 2022 10:29:53 GMT 1
Town don’t need strikers or goals to win games and get promoted
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 2, 2022 10:31:35 GMT 1
If that lad hadn’t superman-ed one off his toe end, we might be saying “good old Rhodes … one chance, one goal, one nil, job done Jordan!” He’s a goalscorer, pure and simple. Playing him as a lone striker is never going to work (yes, I know Campbell partnered him a bit in the second half).
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Post by frankslegs on Apr 2, 2022 10:53:45 GMT 1
As everybody would agree our signings this season have been mostly brilliant.I would say that Jordan is not one of them.He doesn’t fit in the CC systems at all and a three year contract seems ridiculous at the pint of signing but more so now..I have no edge against him at all but it was a strange decision.He will now take the winning penalty at Wembley and see us up….
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Post by morleyterrier on Apr 2, 2022 11:10:20 GMT 1
Fair comment, a few times yesterday we knocked balls into space beyond him for him to try run onto. We need to get the best we can out of him and that is not his strength. You can't expect a team lying third in the league to completely alter its style and formation just to accommodate a guy who's scored about 15 goals in 5 years Your point works both ways. Why select a Player in a formation (and style) that does not suit him (and then judge him on his performance when he never really had a chance to shine for this reason?).
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 2, 2022 11:22:16 GMT 1
I said when we signed him I thought it was a bad one. Just offers nothing as a lone striker which is the line up of choice.
Fingers crossed he improves like ward has but I don’t hold much hope
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 2, 2022 11:36:06 GMT 1
You can't expect a team lying third in the league to completely alter its style and formation just to accommodate a guy who's scored about 15 goals in 5 years Your point works both ways. Why select a Player in a formation (and style) that does not suit him (and then judge him on his performance when he never really had a chance to shine for this reason?). Look at the last 5 year stats . There has to come a time when the obvious slaps you in the face
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 2, 2022 11:55:19 GMT 1
You can't expect a team lying third in the league to completely alter its style and formation just to accommodate a guy who's scored about 15 goals in 5 years Brother Ted, we’re in agreement. Look at my first comment on this thread. Personally, if Grant was fit I’d play him ahead of Rhodes as an unknown quantity. Every team knows Rhodes is shot. Defenders just need to get tight to stop him winning the first ball, they can push right up on him. Can I ask how you have formed an opinion that Grant is capable of playing Championship level football?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 2, 2022 11:58:05 GMT 1
I said when we signed him I thought it was a bad one. Just offers nothing as a lone striker which is the line up of choice. Fingers crossed he improves like ward has but I don’t hold much hope Think that’s the point Turbo. We all know he’s not able to play this role - so why was he picked last night? Obviously not what he was but it’s like asking Holmes to play in goal.
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 2, 2022 11:59:46 GMT 1
Brother Ted, we’re in agreement. Look at my first comment on this thread. Personally, if Grant was fit I’d play him ahead of Rhodes as an unknown quantity. Every team knows Rhodes is shot. Defenders just need to get tight to stop him winning the first ball, they can push right up on him. Can I ask how you have formed an opinion that Grant is capable of playing Championship level football? Interesting thoughts here on the B team, including Grant, from David Hartrick and Steve Chicken. Ooh to be a
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 2, 2022 12:00:37 GMT 1
Rhodes clearly isn't a great option as a starting player in our system, but he's still a pretty decent 'go-to' off the bench and will be a good influence around the club. Happy to have him. I don't think anyone expected a goal machine when we signed him. A three year contract though? Hmmmm.....
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 2, 2022 12:03:43 GMT 1
I said when we signed him I thought it was a bad one. Just offers nothing as a lone striker which is the line up of choice. Fingers crossed he improves like ward has but I don’t hold much hope Think that’s the point Turbo. We all know he’s not able to play this role - so why was he picked last night? Obviously not what he was but it’s like asking Holmes to play in goal. You're basing this notion that if you play to his strengths he's a 20goal plus striker on what he did 8-12 years ago . It's bonkers. I had no problem with us signing him . Wages will be lowish. Could make an impact coming on in games but id underestimated his deterioration.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 2, 2022 12:23:35 GMT 1
Brother Ted, we’re in agreement. Look at my first comment on this thread. Personally, if Grant was fit I’d play him ahead of Rhodes as an unknown quantity. Every team knows Rhodes is shot. Defenders just need to get tight to stop him winning the first ball, they can push right up on him. Can I ask how you have formed an opinion that Grant is capable of playing Championship level football? I haven’t, yet. But I have formed the opinion that Rhodes isn’t so trying an alternative is fairly risk free.
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Post by golcarexile on Apr 2, 2022 12:30:58 GMT 1
Could be wrong, but I think the only league game that he has played any part in that we have lost is the Fulham 5-1. On that basis, while he hasn't set the world alight, he certainly hasn't let anyone down when called upon. Why bash the lad?
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Post by ldr on Apr 2, 2022 12:38:28 GMT 1
It was quite a hard watch with Jordan last night. You can just tell from his movement that his race has run. He will never lose that finishers instinct but sadly, his body cannot get into converting positions. There were occasions last night where the ball had gone before Rhodes had even had time to adjust his body.
If he was a unit who enjoyed getting into arm wrestles with the centre halves then he might still have some utility to us but that’s not his game. He was probably worth a punt on a one year deal but three years is bonkers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 12:39:02 GMT 1
Who knows what wage he’s on? Cos a three year contract on £5k a week is better than having for two years at £10k a week!
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Post by drewden on Apr 2, 2022 12:41:05 GMT 1
Done nothing in all the games he has played, be typical for him to score a wonder goal in the play offs, that sees us to the final.
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Post by ldr on Apr 2, 2022 12:41:29 GMT 1
Could be wrong, but I think the only league game that he has played any part in that we have lost is the Fulham 5-1. On that basis, while he hasn't set the world alight, he certainly hasn't let anyone down when called upon. Why bash the lad? I’m not sure it’s bashing. It’s just fans voicing honest opinions. None of us takes any glee as I’m sure we’d all love it to be a success for the lad. He might still make a positive impression on this season; I really hope he does.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 2, 2022 12:59:37 GMT 1
The lad is happy to play a support act, some forwards would grumble about it.
I hope the scapegoat mantle isn’t shifting from Turton to Rhodes just because, as mentioned above, he hasn’t had service or much game time. The man knows where the goal is and I wouldn’t bet against him getting a crucial goal or two before the season’s end.
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Post by Amigo on Apr 2, 2022 13:01:54 GMT 1
Could be wrong, but I think the only league game that he has played any part in that we have lost is the Fulham 5-1. On that basis, while he hasn't set the world alight, he certainly hasn't let anyone down when called upon. Why bash the lad? It's seems strange but yeah our record this season even including cup games he's appeared in is - Games - 21 Won - 12 Drawn - 7 Lost - 2 Over 2 points a game if all converted to league games. If nothing else he seems to be a lucky mascot.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 2, 2022 13:12:57 GMT 1
It might help if he he gets better service. Until that happens, don’t judge him (and certainly not after very few starts in the Team). He missed 4 clear chances last night
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 2, 2022 13:14:56 GMT 1
If that lad hadn’t superman-ed one off his toe end, we might be saying “good old Rhodes … one chance, one goal, one nil, job done Jordan!” He’s a goalscorer, pure and simple. Playing him as a lone striker is never going to work (yes, I know Campbell partnered him a bit in the second half). Going off the chances in the 2nd half what's to say he'd have scored if the bloke hadn't handled it.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 2, 2022 13:16:33 GMT 1
We'd probably do better with Pipa up there rather than Rhodes if our game plan is to overhit balls for him to chase after
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