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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2022 11:25:46 GMT 1
I won't offer my opinion, I will just pop up a poll see what the general feeling is after this latest announcement.
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Post by Larry David on Jul 7, 2022 11:27:27 GMT 1
Like Boris Johnson... Should have gone ages ago
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Post by ruggedivy on Jul 7, 2022 11:28:53 GMT 1
Out - clearly no interest in investing in the club.
Just wants his money back.
Let’s finally get someone in who can lead us forward and end this saga.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2022 11:30:22 GMT 1
In, not impressed with Schofield in charge but what is the alternative to Hoyle?
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Post by htafc on Jul 7, 2022 11:33:07 GMT 1
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Jul 7, 2022 11:35:10 GMT 1
I don't think this is the time or place to start a poll on the 'owner' of the club. We have no real inside knowledge of what the financial position is at Town. Yes, there the published accounts but they are out of date the moment they are published the way modern clubs operate. Hoyle may well be sucking the club dry but at the same time he may be providing the life support necessary to keep us going. He has been successful in the past and his ownership, in the main, can be looked back on with pride, apart from that second season in the Greedy league and some of the mistakes made with purchases and contracts. He deserves at the very least a chance to take us forward ... unless there is a more responsible person out there willing to invest time and money into the club to replace him. If so who is that person and where are they?
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Post by aideybabes on Jul 7, 2022 11:36:02 GMT 1
In, not impressed with Schofield in charge but what is the alternative to Hoyle? The alternative is the entire football leagues many coaches which we could try attract to the club. However if we can save 50p by appointing someone within the club will do. Where’s the ambition, I’m not writing Scofield off but it doesn’t look all that attractive does it. |
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Post by pilks123 on Jul 7, 2022 11:37:56 GMT 1
Out - seen nothing to suggest pushing on from a great performance and improving as a club. Rumours of key players either wanting to leave or refusing to sign new contracts, replacing people on the cheap and now having a good manager walk because of not agreeing to the direction of the club. Town are anything but stable at the minute and the whole PH debacle hasn't helped either. I thank dean for getting us to the premier league in my lifetime and for his backing of the club through difficult times. Starting to feel though this is similar to the situation with boris in that he has his own interests above the club and for the good of town a fresh start with new ownership might be good for us. Worried this is barnsley all over again, got 15/1 there for town to get relegated  |
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Post by rsouls on Jul 7, 2022 11:39:17 GMT 1
Hoyle you done us once kno your fucking us up again
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Post by ram on Jul 7, 2022 11:41:20 GMT 1
Danny Schofield was a half decent player,but the lads he will be trying to coach are better than he was.Imagine being a skilled worker and the boss puts an apprentice in as foreman telling you how to do your job.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2022 11:45:01 GMT 1
In, not impressed with Schofield in charge but what is the alternative to Hoyle? The alternative is the entire football leagues many coaches which we could try attract to the club. However if we can save 50p by appointing someone within the club will do. Where’s the ambition, I’m not writing Scofield off but it doesn’t look all that attractive does it. I meant alternative owner, they aren't queuing up and whether you like it or not Phil didn't have the pennies to run a championship football club currently losing 4 million a year just to have a bottom 6 wage bill |
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Post by crux on Jul 7, 2022 11:45:47 GMT 1
Danny Schofield was a half decent player,but the lads he will be trying to coach are better than he was.Imagine being a skilled worker and the boss puts an apprentice in as foreman telling you how to do your job. Carlos was a shite goalkeeper, but last season wasn't bad 🤔 |
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Post by harris on Jul 7, 2022 11:46:51 GMT 1
Danny Schofield was a half decent player,but the lads he will be trying to coach are better than he was.Imagine being a skilled worker and the boss puts an apprentice in as foreman telling you how to do your job. Carlos was a shite goalkeeper, but last season wasn't bad 🤔 Was just about to say the same 😂 |
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Post by ram on Jul 7, 2022 11:49:23 GMT 1
Well. as a retired artisan I would tell him to piss off.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 7, 2022 11:49:38 GMT 1
His transformation from 2018 to now is absolutely fucking bizarre. He's morphed into Ken Davy.
I support HTFC not Dean Hoyle and DH of the last 4 years seems to have HTFC nowhere near the top of his list of priorities. There would be an angry mob outside now at plenty of other clubs, and tbh they would be justified.
Find a buyer for the club and go count your money, please.
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Post by impact on Jul 7, 2022 11:50:08 GMT 1
No one has a clue what went on but yeah, this will help.
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Post by thomo on Jul 7, 2022 11:52:24 GMT 1
Can’t wait for him to go. He f**ked up our premier league legacy and now he’s f**king up our chance to establish ourselves as a solid championship side. Go now Dean. I’d take our chances with administration rather than have you in charge - the club is going nowhere. You will not be welcome at the John Smiths stadium any more. Hero to Zero
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Post by townatheart on Jul 7, 2022 11:56:33 GMT 1
Danny Schofield was a half decent player,but the lads he will be trying to coach are better than he was.Imagine being a skilled worker and the boss puts an apprentice in as foreman telling you how to do your job. Sorry but IMO that is at the least a weak argument. Simple response is a certain Alex Ferguson, second might even be Carlos Corberan😉. That said I am not at all impressed with the appointment of Schofield |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 7, 2022 11:58:14 GMT 1
Danny Schofield was a half decent player,but the lads he will be trying to coach are better than he was.Imagine being a skilled worker and the boss puts an apprentice in as foreman telling you how to do your job. Try telling Jose ‘the translator’ that |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Jul 7, 2022 11:58:24 GMT 1
No one has a clue what went on but yeah, this will help. There will never be anything official with stuff like this will there? Just spin and rumours, so that's all we can go on. I think a logical spin on it would be that Carlos feels very undervalued and sees a total lack of ambition following a fantastic achievement last time around. Missing out on targets to rivals, unable to convince key players to stay etc. Just a high expectation of being able to work miracles again whilst other teams around us spend. He didn't even get rewarded for finsihing 3rd and reaching the play-off final, pretty shit is that! |
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Post by terriers2000 on Jul 7, 2022 12:00:54 GMT 1
sooner he has gone, the better
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jul 7, 2022 12:01:16 GMT 1
Hard to say given everything surrounding the situation is speculative at best.
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Post by aideybabes on Jul 7, 2022 12:08:26 GMT 1
The alternative is the entire football leagues many coaches which we could try attract to the club. However if we can save 50p by appointing someone within the club will do. Where’s the ambition, I’m not writing Scofield off but it doesn’t look all that attractive does it. I meant alternative owner, they aren't queuing up and whether you like it or not Phil didn't have the pennies to run a championship football club currently losing 4 million a year just to have a bottom 6 wage bill I always said Potless didn’t have a pot to piss in when it came to running a football club however in fairness to Phil, it was coming good before he was outed. I’m conflicted with Hoyle because he’s given us some great memories / times but also left us in the shit when wanting his brass back when he brokered the deal with Phil. He then took over again using phil’s team and we got to PO final. That said though if he feels he’s taken the club as far as he thinks he’s willing to in terms of investment then get on the phone to the yanks or someone who will pump so decent cash in Otherwise it’s piss weak football and relegation scraps year in year out. |
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Post by aideybabes on Jul 7, 2022 12:11:18 GMT 1
His transformation from 2018 to now is absolutely fucking bizarre. He's morphed into Ken Davy. I support HTFC not Dean Hoyle and DH of the last 4 years seems to have HTFC nowhere near the top of his list of priorities. There would be an angry mob outside now at plenty of other clubs, and tbh they would be justified. Find a buyer for the club and go count your money, please. There’s a discussion in that I feel he only rescued the club when Phil was outed because if the club had of gone tits up he’d have zero chance of getting his remaining monies back. He had to spend to accumulate in terms of trying to recoup his overall investments in HTAFC. As a 25% stakeholder still he had a duty of care to invest or place it in administration as it couldn’t run as a going concern unable to pay wages etc. I don’t begrudge him wanting his brass back but give the club a fighting chance to compete for gods sake. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 7, 2022 12:15:52 GMT 1
Just when you think the 17 year old juveniles on DATM couldn't get any more ridiculous...
I'll be interested to see how many put their £ on the line.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 7, 2022 12:26:33 GMT 1
Hoyle you done us once kno your fucking us up again FFS |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 7, 2022 12:31:33 GMT 1
Think he is in danger in becoming the most divisive man in the clubs history.
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Post by workshyfop on Jul 7, 2022 12:40:31 GMT 1
He’s bleeding the club dry. Took the parachute payments, the proceeds from player sales (with Big Phil as the patsy, then coming back as the self-proclaimed saviour) and is now cutting the budget further after a successful season.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 7, 2022 12:41:32 GMT 1
Think he is in danger in becoming the most divisive man in the clubs history. there's stiff competition on here! He's not even close. |
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Post by dugnet on Jul 7, 2022 12:42:40 GMT 1
His transformation from 2018 to now is absolutely fucking bizarre. He's morphed into Ken Davy. I support HTFC not Dean Hoyle and DH of the last 4 years seems to have HTFC nowhere near the top of his list of priorities. There would be an angry mob outside now at plenty of other clubs, and tbh they would be justified. Find a buyer for the club and go count your money, please. I've supported him for so long but as you say the transformation in the past 4 years has been peculiar. I will always be grateful for the money and considerable time he has given to the club but since our ascent to the Premier League he seems to have worked to erode all goodwill there was towards him. That is very sad. Today I feel disappointed to have lost a talented coach and have clearly been unable to support him. I additionally feel insulted that we are expected to believe that this was a shock. I am sorry but that just isn't credible and shouldn't be used as an explanation. The truth is DH has not chosen to invest any further. What I can't fathom is that surely the best way of getting your money back was to build the team and potentially get promoted. This was obviously not seen as a strategy DH wanted to pursue. It is easy to say "it's time to go" but it's not as easy as that. The structure, that PH introduced, is sound but it requires everyone working together and to be built on. Who might be interested in the project is anyone's guess. DH has to own where we are right now: He created the debt in his early years with a "gung-ho" approach. He failed to have a plan for our Premier League success. He identified PH (who is looking increasingly like a very good owner with every day that passes) and sold to him. He failed to effectively re-engage with the fans and explain (like he used to). He recorded a bitter podcast, where everything was everyone's fault than his. He put out a message to suggest that he had "rescued the club" from administration when the majority of debt was actually owed to him i.e. it didn't make sense. He has failed to support a talented coach who vastly overachieved and build on that platform. The one group of people who are not to blame are us, the fans. DH seems to completely ignore this these days, moreover he can appear to consider us a bunch of ingrates. I hope things get better but right now today feels far more deflating than being relegated from the Premier League ever did. I can't help think we need a fresh mindset and approach. I don't wish DH or his family any ill. I genuinely appreciate his considerable contribution but today has really put him in the pariah position. I can't imagine this would have been allowed to happen 10 years go. How times change eh? |
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