DuffMan
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Post by DuffMan on Apr 13, 2023 9:31:26 GMT 1
I've noticed that you cannot place a bet on the championship relegation race. I assumed this was because they were waiting for the points deductions to be settled but it seems not one single bookie is willing to offer a market for this other than the exchange markets. Do they know something we don't about points deductions?
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Post by Grim on Apr 13, 2023 9:37:39 GMT 1
Relegation odds available for all other divisions. Definitely odd.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 13, 2023 9:49:11 GMT 1
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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 13, 2023 9:50:42 GMT 1
Relegation odds available for all other divisions. Definitely odd.Or maybe even !!! 😉 |
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 13, 2023 10:18:58 GMT 1
Does any team down there have a case pending?
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Post by cat57 on Apr 13, 2023 10:32:16 GMT 1
Somebody put a lot of Money on W.B.A last week
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Post by DuffMan on Apr 13, 2023 10:46:31 GMT 1
interesting, so Betway have broken ranks and put a book on. The betfair odds are from the exchange |
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 13, 2023 10:47:19 GMT 1
Rumours around the West Mids regarding WBA and Brum but can’t see anything happening this season.
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Post by waggers on Apr 13, 2023 11:17:22 GMT 1
Somebody put a lot of Money on W.B.A last week Saw them at about evens, thought it was just an error on oddschecker. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 11:23:51 GMT 1
Sounds like there could be a club about to go into administration, since those points would be deducted immediately.
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 13, 2023 11:28:07 GMT 1
Sounds like there could be a club about to go into administration, since those points would be deducted immediately. Would be next season now wouldn't it? |
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 13, 2023 11:33:12 GMT 1
Yeah deadline for this season was a few weeks ago I think
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Post by townrwe on Apr 13, 2023 11:34:13 GMT 1
Rumours are that wba will go bust if they don't get promotion to premier league. That's looking a distant hope at the moment, so the moment it's mathematical impossible to gain promotion they will fold... sounds like the situation is more desperate than a simple administration.
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 13, 2023 11:38:21 GMT 1
Rumours are that wba will go bust if they don't get promotion to premier league. That's looking a distant hope at the moment, so the moment it's mathematical impossible to gain promotion they will fold... sounds like the situation is more desperate than a simple administration. That's what happens when your owner borrows money from the club and can't pay it back |
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 13, 2023 11:41:45 GMT 1
If it’s WBA then can we forget the grant money?
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Post by leroy212 on Apr 13, 2023 11:43:28 GMT 1
If it’s WBA then can we forget the grant money? Most probably, wonder if Carlos will walk like he tried to do here |
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Post by mosher on Apr 13, 2023 11:50:41 GMT 1
If it’s WBA then can we forget the grant money? Don't football creditors come first? Even if they go bust completely they still have to raise what they can for creditors surely? I remember when a firm I worked for went bust all the joiners' equipment, office equipment, etc was sold off to pay off what they could as they couldn't sell the business as a going concern. This was in the 90s though so perhaps the rules have changed? |
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Post by DuffMan on Apr 13, 2023 11:59:36 GMT 1
Has someone invented the wba rumour based on the odds provided on this thread?
If you click through they are only offering odds on anyone that can still mathematically go down. The WBA odds will just be out of date from when they were down there similar to the boro odds.
As someone has stated any admin points would go onto next season so unless someone has broken some rules it won’t happen
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Post by simontrevittsears on Apr 13, 2023 11:59:48 GMT 1
I wonder what the table would look like with all WBA results expunged? I know we would lose a point, not sure about our relegation rivals.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 13, 2023 12:01:20 GMT 1
Rabbit holes…
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Post by DuffMan on Apr 13, 2023 12:04:34 GMT 1
I wonder what the table would look like with all WBA results expunged? I know we would lose a point, not sure about our relegation rivals. Why would they expunge all their results, they will 100% finish the season. |
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Post by simontrevittsears on Apr 13, 2023 12:09:18 GMT 1
I wonder what the table would look like with all WBA results expunged? I know we would lose a point, not sure about our relegation rivals. Why would they expunge all their results, they will 100% finish the season. I was commenting on the rumour that they would fold as soon as it was mathematically impossible for them to achieve promotion to the premier league, in which case they wouldn't finish the season. i didn't say they wouldn't, just wondering how it would impact us if they didn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 12:10:34 GMT 1
Sounds like there could be a club about to go into administration, since those points would be deducted immediately. Would be next season now wouldn't it? Oh yeah, of course - my bad! That's that theory out the window. |
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 13, 2023 12:38:32 GMT 1
Sounds like there could be a club about to go into administration, since those points would be deducted immediately. Would be next season now wouldn't it? Not necessarily. If they made a difference to this season's total they would be applied immediately - e.g. if it relegated a team that would be safe otherwise they would be taken off now. If a 12 point deduction had no material effect - e.g. a team finishing 15th instead of 12th, then they would be applied next season. Deadline in March is purely for whether the deduction applies this season automatically (before the deadline), or whether the EFL waits to see if a 12 point deduction is material (after the deadline) |
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 13, 2023 12:46:37 GMT 1
Would be next season now wouldn't it? Not necessarily. If they made a difference to this season's total they would be applied immediately - e.g. if it relegated a team that would be safe otherwise they would be taken off now. If a 12 point deduction had no material effect - e.g. a team finishing 15th instead of 12th, then they would be applied next season. Deadline in March is purely for whether the deduction applies this season automatically (before the deadline), or whether the EFL waits to see if a 12 point deduction is material (after the deadline) That's interesting. I think most thought it was just a straight-forward cut-off for current season or next. |
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Post by mosher on Apr 13, 2023 12:51:10 GMT 1
Not necessarily. If they made a difference to this season's total they would be applied immediately - e.g. if it relegated a team that would be safe otherwise they would be taken off now. If a 12 point deduction had no material effect - e.g. a team finishing 15th instead of 12th, then they would be applied next season. Deadline in March is purely for whether the deduction applies this season automatically (before the deadline), or whether the EFL waits to see if a 12 point deduction is material (after the deadline) That's interesting. I think most thought it was just a straight-forward cut-off for current season or next. Me too, but if ilsonterrier is right it would be nice to drag someone else into it. Irony being Carlos being the manager who jumped ship (allegedly) because of a relegation-likely squad is now the manager of the team who could be joining us in the basement. Karma? |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Apr 13, 2023 13:34:13 GMT 1
Do any other teams have any suspended points from previous misdemeanors, like Reading did?
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Post by Wings of a Duff on Apr 13, 2023 14:16:55 GMT 1
Do any other teams have any suspended points from previous misdemeanors, like Reading did? I thought Birmingham did, they've been sailing close to the wind for about a decade. |
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 13, 2023 18:03:55 GMT 1
Do any other teams have any suspended points from previous misdemeanors, like Reading did? I thought Birmingham did, they've been sailing close to the wind for about a decade. Doesn't look like they're going to lose any points Birmingham City: English Football League says failed takeover broke owners test rules - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65256341 |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 13, 2023 18:14:55 GMT 1
How does this work...?
"As a consequence of the ruling, Richardson and Lopez have been banned from acting as a 'relevant person' in any similar takeover bid for two months and one month, respectively. The sanctions are suspended until the end of the 2023-24 season."
So if the sanctions are suspended, does that mean they CAN act as a relevant person?
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