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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 9, 2023 11:19:02 GMT 1
- During Neil Warnock’s 15-game tenure Town won 7 games, which is as many as they had managed in the previous 31 games under Schofield, Pelach and Fotheringham.
- Although admittedly a small sample – but against very difficult opposition – Warnock’s win rate of 46.7% is the best since Lee Clark’s 48.6% (2008-12).
- Also, Warnock’s ratio of 1.67 points per game (3 points per win era) is second only to Clark (1.76).
- Once again, Town were not awarded even one home penalty. That’s now over two years and two months! The last home penalty was awarded against Cardiff City on 5th March 2021, and was missed by Yaya Sanogo on debut. That was during the Covid Pandemic and so the ground was shut at the time. You have to go back to 25th February 2020 and Karlan Grant’s penalty against Bristol City for the last time any paying customer saw Town take a penalty kick at home.
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Post by drewden on May 9, 2023 11:52:55 GMT 1
He also achieved 25 points out of a possible 45 points which equals 1.8 a game.
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Post by Dan on May 9, 2023 11:56:24 GMT 1
He also achieved 25 points out of a possible 45 points which equals 1.8 a game. It doesn't, it's 1.67 per game |
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Post by hypotenuse on May 9, 2023 13:09:04 GMT 1
12 of our 17 goals in the last 10 games came in the first 25 minutes of the second half. We conceded only 2 in that same time period. Whatever subtle changes Warnock makes at half time are like sprinkling gold dust.
We have now gone 43 seasons without finishing in the top 2 positions of the league we have been competing in (though still managed 5 promotions in that time).
Someone listed our top scorers in the league as Rhodes and Pearson with 5 goals - Danny Ward also scored 5.
We played on all 7 days of the week in a 9 game spell between (and including) Norwich (H) and Sheffield Utd (H). We have never played on all 7 days of the week in such a short time (in terms of league games). I wonder if any league team has?
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Post by Dan on May 9, 2023 13:49:24 GMT 1
Our 2 biggest defeats were both 4-0, in successive games (Burnley away and Coventry home). After that Coventry defeat we were 7 points off safety with 12 games left. We finished 9 points above the drop! That is just crazy. Half time against Norwich we were 8 points off safety with 9 and a half games left |
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Post by sabailand on May 9, 2023 14:34:05 GMT 1
41 players used across all competitions. That equals 2019/20 as the 2nd highest in our history. Only 1909/10 had more with 42. Jordan Rhodes top scored with just 6 goals. Not as bad as 2018/19 when Karlan Grant top scored with just 4. (Matty Pearson was joint league top scorer with Rhodes on 5 goals) Jack Rudoni appeared in every game. The first outfield player to do so since Nathan Clarke in 2005/06. He is also the first Town player to appear in all games, having made more than 1 substitute appearance in that time (Jack had 5 sub appearances). Nathan Clarke in 2005/06 and Gary Barnett in 1992/93 both appeared in every game having made 1 sub appearance. Every other Town player to appear in every game in a season, has started every match. As we got knocked out of both cups at the first hurdle by Preston, this season was the first time since 1958/59 that we have not faced a team ouside of our own league over a single season. When we played Sheff utd they were a premiership team, and when we played Reading they were a league 1 team.  |
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Post by Dan on May 9, 2023 14:35:57 GMT 1
41 players used across all competitions. That equals 2019/20 as the 2nd highest in our history. Only 1909/10 had more with 42. Jordan Rhodes top scored with just 6 goals. Not as bad as 2018/19 when Karlan Grant top scored with just 4. (Matty Pearson was joint league top scorer with Rhodes on 5 goals) Jack Rudoni appeared in every game. The first outfield player to do so since Nathan Clarke in 2005/06. He is also the first Town player to appear in all games, having made more than 1 substitute appearance in that time (Jack had 5 sub appearances). Nathan Clarke in 2005/06 and Gary Barnett in 1992/93 both appeared in every game having made 1 sub appearance. Every other Town player to appear in every game in a season, has started every match. As we got knocked out of both cups at the first hurdle by Preston, this season was the first time since 1958/59 that we have not faced a team ouside of our own league over a single season. When we played Sheff utd they were a premiership team, and when we played Reading the were a lwague 1 team. When we played Stoke we were a North East Counties team |
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Post by detox on May 9, 2023 14:41:25 GMT 1
The league table with just the last 15 games we were 5th...  |
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Post by sabailand on May 9, 2023 14:43:30 GMT 1
When we played Sheff utd they were a premiership team, and when we played Reading the were a lwague 1 team. When we played Stoke we were a North East Counties team And thats being kind. |
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Post by Mastercracker on May 9, 2023 15:02:40 GMT 1
The league table with just the last 15 games we were 5th... Kept the Town tradition of negative GD alive and well still  |
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Post by workshyfop on May 9, 2023 15:11:03 GMT 1
If you added all our possession in games together throughout the season, it comes to exactly 100%. #fact
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 9, 2023 16:38:55 GMT 1
The league table with just the last 15 games we were 5th... Quite a telling table that, it reinforces the view that we were well above the mark with our rivals, which also rams home the fact that we needed to be. The 9 points clear of relegation gives a skewed picture of the reality of our predicament. |
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Post by detox on May 9, 2023 16:47:14 GMT 1
The league table with just the last 15 games we were 5th... Quite a telling table that, it reinforces the view that we were well above the mark with our rivals, which also rams home the fact that we needed to be. The 9 points clear of relegation gives a skewed picture of the reality of our predicament. all those weeks of fretting and it just seemed to get fixed so quickly in the end...what can I stress about now ? |
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Post by goodbet on May 9, 2023 22:07:29 GMT 1
The league table with just the last 15 games we were 5th... Quite a telling table that, it reinforces the view that we were well above the mark with our rivals, which also rams home the fact that we needed to be. The 9 points clear of relegation gives a skewed picture of the reality of our predicament. The quote, "Lies, Dam Lies and Statistics comes to mind." We did a lot better at the end of the season and we are all grateful for this but we still showed a worrying lack of some basic skills in those games. We pass like a team from ? I can't say what level as the number of completed passes in a game is so low, I am not sure what level we were playing at. To start next season with the squad as it stands would not indicate that the new owners were trying to develop the club. Just because Colin got the players to perform does not mean that out new Manager/Coach who ever it may be will be able to get a tune out of them. |
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Post by 28901 on May 10, 2023 1:37:02 GMT 1
Our 2 biggest defeats were both 4-0, in successive games (Burnley away and Coventry home). After that Coventry defeat we were 7 points off safety with 12 games left. We finished 9 points above the drop! That is just crazy. Half time against Norwich we were 8 points off safety with 9 and a half games left That was the lowest point. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 10, 2023 2:48:21 GMT 1
Half time against Norwich we were 8 points off safety with 9 and a half games left That was the lowest point. Full time against Norwich was when I accepted our fate was relegation - What do I know? |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 8:53:44 GMT 1
Good job that we didn't finish 21st this season...
From The times :
In the Championship season of 2020-21 Derby County were spared relegation only by a points deduction for Sheffield Wednesday — but Derby were demoted a year later because they received a points penalty themselves. In that latter campaign Reading were saved from relegation purely by Derby’s points deduction — but a year later (this season) they have suffered the drop through their own points penalty.
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Post by 28901 on May 10, 2023 9:47:06 GMT 1
That was the lowest point. Full time against Norwich was when I accepted our fate was relegation - What do I know? Actually I was over it at half time. I knew we were done. But that second half we played quite well and took the game to them. Could have won it. |
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Post by araucaria on May 10, 2023 10:02:52 GMT 1
Own goals, 5, joint-top league scorer, surely for the first time ever?
Edit: perhaps it’s for the best that it was actually only 4, with Ben Jackson being credited with the third at Luton. I hope that this hasn’t shaken Bassingham Terrier’s confidence in me as I continue my quest to prove that Fred Robinson missed a penalty in our 4-0 win at home to Wigan in October 1979.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 10, 2023 10:08:25 GMT 1
Own goals, 5, joint-top league scorer, surely for the first time ever? Brilliant spot!  (although I'll quickly add that I haven't checked this. It's almost certainly correct though.) |
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Post by irverino on May 10, 2023 10:12:08 GMT 1
Anyone super Town fan go to all 48 games?......if you did all four PNE games (esp EFL cup), you did well.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 10, 2023 10:30:43 GMT 1
Own goals, 5, joint-top league scorer, surely for the first time ever? I'd also be interested to know when in history that we've ever had a top scorer with fewer than 5 league goals? That is an appalling statistic!! |
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Post by rockwall on May 10, 2023 11:42:55 GMT 1
Own goals, 5, joint-top league scorer, surely for the first time ever? I'd also be interested to know when in history that we've ever had a top scorer with fewer than 5 league goals? That is an appalling statistic!! Rhodes got 5 didn't he? 7 overall. I could be wrong. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 10, 2023 11:47:12 GMT 1
I'd also be interested to know when in history that we've ever had a top scorer with fewer than 5 league goals? That is an appalling statistic!! Rhodes got 5 didn't he? 7 overall. I could be wrong. 6 overall. 5 League, 1 vs Preston in the EFL. Kamberi got the FAC goal at Deepdale. |
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Post by rockwall on May 10, 2023 11:58:59 GMT 1
Rhodes got 5 didn't he? 7 overall. I could be wrong. 6 overall. 5 League, 1 vs Preston in the EFL. Kamberi got the FAC goal at Deepdale. Ah yess! Thanks. |
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on May 10, 2023 12:06:52 GMT 1
I'd also be interested to know when in history that we've ever had a top scorer with fewer than 5 league goals? That is an appalling statistic!! Rhodes got 5 didn't he? 7 overall. I could be wrong. Yep so I'm wondering if this is the lowest ever, or have we had seasons prior to this with fewer than 5? Edit: Karlan Grant got 4 in the Premier League relegation season |
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Post by rockwall on May 10, 2023 12:09:43 GMT 1
Rhodes got 5 didn't he? 7 overall. I could be wrong. Yep so I'm wondering if this is the lowest ever, or have we had seasons prior to this with fewer than 5? Edit: Karlan Grant got 4 in the Premier League relegation season It is an area we need to improve. As much as I like Ward, we need someone probably mid 20s who will get us at least 15 a season. It's not an easy ask. But there will be players out their capable. |
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Post by Mastercracker on May 10, 2023 12:09:45 GMT 1
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 10, 2023 12:10:24 GMT 1
Rhodes got 5 didn't he? 7 overall. I could be wrong. Yep so I'm wondering if this is the lowest ever, or have we had seasons prior to this with fewer than 5? Edit: Karlan Grant got 4 in the Premier League relegation season You beat me to it. But there is a rider with the Grant total in that we only played 38 games that season. I'd speculate - without having checked - that, over a 46 game season, this will be our lowest ever top scorer total. But then there were the 42 game seasons too... |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 10, 2023 12:13:04 GMT 1
You have to be careful with Transfermarkt though... they're not always reliable. Their Town managerial stats, for example, are all over the shop. Edit
Ah... I see that you have edited your original post.
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