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Post by VLP Fan Club on Apr 24, 2024 15:27:24 GMT 1
Everyone seemed pretty happy at the end of the January transfer window. I was. I did question the Radulovic signing but was in a tiny minority there. I don’t remember many questioning the André appointment at the time. I do recall Maynard stating we needed a relegation specialist but it was a sole voice. We had one, and sacked him when we weren’t looking in any form of danger.
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 24, 2024 15:29:39 GMT 1
The only ray of light at the minute is that whichever league we are in next year our owner is still backing the club. However much fans might think they are hurting this is going to cost him millions. And while some mistakes have been made he is not the reason we are in a mess. This club was a mess when he came in and had been for years. He's done absolutely nothing to arrest the slide. He has put money in which would've helped but any benefit has been taken away by letting fucking Cartwright spend it
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Post by monkbar on Apr 24, 2024 15:30:48 GMT 1
Everyone seemed pretty happy at the end of the January transfer window. I was. I did question the Radulovic signing but was in a tiny minority there. I don’t remember many questioning the André appointment at the time. I do recall Maynard stating we needed a relegation specialist but it was a sole voice. We had one, and sacked him when we weren’t looking in any form of danger. I wouldn't say that, we were only 17th having beaten Rotherham at home.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 24, 2024 15:31:24 GMT 1
Everyone seemed pretty happy at the end of the January transfer window. I was. I did question the Radulovic signing but was in a tiny minority there. I don’t remember many questioning the André appointment at the time. I do recall Maynard stating we needed a relegation specialist but it was a sole voice. We had one, and sacked him when we weren’t looking in any form of danger. Yeah, but but but but but but but but but but but but but.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 24, 2024 15:32:05 GMT 1
We had one, and sacked him when we weren’t looking in any form of danger. I wouldn't say that, we were only 17th having beaten Rotherham at home. Warnock left us in 16th place, we have not been any higher all season.
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Post by monkbar on Apr 24, 2024 15:32:55 GMT 1
I wouldn't say that, we were only 17th having beaten Rotherham at home. Warnock left us in 16th place, we have not been any higher all season. 17th when it was announced. But my point was hardly not in any form of danger.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 24, 2024 15:39:59 GMT 1
Everyone seemed pretty happy at the end of the January transfer window. I was. I did question the Radulovic signing but was in a tiny minority there. I don’t remember many questioning the André appointment at the time. I do recall Maynard stating we needed a relegation specialist but it was a sole voice. We had one, and sacked him when we weren’t looking in any form of danger. Agreed. The nicest way i can describe that decision is retarded.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 24, 2024 15:44:01 GMT 1
Warnock left us in 16th place, we have not been any higher all season. 17th when it was announced. But my point was hardly not in any form of danger. We'd just got going, and having beaten a world class manager/team before the international break, and then the win over Rotherham, there was a bit of confidence. We also got a point out of the Stoke game, which we didn't deserve. It felt daft to get rid when we'd just got some momentum. No point going over it though, it happened, but we can still call it what it was. A stupid decision.
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Post by goodbet on Apr 24, 2024 15:45:07 GMT 1
Everyone seemed pretty happy at the end of the January transfer window. I was. I did question the Radulovic signing but was in a tiny minority there. I don’t remember many questioning the André appointment at the time. I do recall Maynard stating we needed a relegation specialist but it was a sole voice. There were a few Cartwright clones telling us all that the January was the best window for Town ever. Most of us were just waiting to see them play, and we had to wait for quite a while for them. None of them were Championship ready, which is what was needed.
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 24, 2024 15:45:14 GMT 1
Thought it was worth posting this again. No wish to make comment. The only ray of light at the minute is that whichever league we are in next year our owner is still backing the club. However much fans might think they are hurting this is going to cost him millions. And while some mistakes have been made he is not the reason we are in a mess. This club was a mess when he came in and had been for years. I suspect relegation would result in costing him fewer millions than staying in this league would ? (which is an interesting thought to contemplate on)
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Post by bluebell on Apr 24, 2024 15:46:05 GMT 1
I am still to this day, wondering what the hell Edwards and Cartwright meant in the was it Moore first interview, when they said now we are "in a position of strength". They never seemed to explain that or Nagle has not explained that either, as when Warnock left as someone pointed out we were 17th, where was this strength? Could Nagle help with this please , as his chief exec and sporting director used this, maybe he can fully explain what the hell they were talking about or thinking by saying this? By the way and this is IMO - Edwards and Cartwright were insluting Nagles intellgence or using his lack of knowledge about English football by appointing Moore. As getting to the Premier league and Moore will and have never being used in the same sentence.It will be a very intersting summer regardless of a great escape or as we asume relegation.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 24, 2024 15:46:50 GMT 1
Everyone seemed pretty happy at the end of the January transfer window. I was. I did question the Radulovic signing but was in a tiny minority there. I don’t remember many questioning the André appointment at the time. I do recall Maynard stating we needed a relegation specialist but it was a sole voice. There were a few Cartwright clones telling us all that the January was the best window for Town ever.Most of us were just waiting to see them play, and we had to wait for quite a while for them. None of them were what were Championship ready, which is what was needed. That's just Town fans. Every January window is the best window ever.
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Post by ldr on Apr 24, 2024 16:04:30 GMT 1
We had one, and sacked him when we weren’t looking in any form of danger. Agreed. The nicest way i can describe that decision is retarded. The way I described it the time was ‘an act of self harm’. I had no problem getting rid of NW; rather it was the timing, how it was done and the fucking replacement that was so, so damaging.
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Post by ldr on Apr 24, 2024 16:07:26 GMT 1
There were a few Cartwright clones telling us all that the January was the best window for Town ever.Most of us were just waiting to see them play, and we had to wait for quite a while for them. None of them were what were Championship ready, which is what was needed. That's just Town fans. Every January window is the best window ever. Sometimes, it’s like that when we appoint a new manager as well. But there was little to zero enthusiasm for Moore, despite the marketing nonsense spouted by the club.
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Post by softboy on Apr 24, 2024 21:40:51 GMT 1
I watch Town up and down the country like a lot of us do but AB shows absolutely no passion/emotion on the touch line. Personally I would get rid now (although I feel he will walk if we go down anyway) but better to bite the bullet now.
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Apr 24, 2024 23:12:07 GMT 1
I watch Town up and down the country like a lot of us do but AB shows absolutely no passion/emotion on the touch line. Personally I would get rid now (although I feel he will walk if we go down anyway) but better to bite the bullet now. I partially agree and disagree with this. But, for the part that Buzz (Mark Fortheringham) showed passion and emotion. Yet, we all hated him. Corberan was often emotionless in his spell, until he was. I like to see passionate and emotion driven coaches on the sideline, but, I don't think it's everything. I don't like that we brought in AB, and he's not had the ability to bring his own players in. The constant chopping and changing of managers and keeping with for the most part the same group of players is alarming. We've looked solid in most parts under AB, up until the 70th minute on average where the lack of fitness shows in the players. Hence the big collapses that we have. I will argue that I do find it confusing why he's adamant on keeping our strikers on the bench though. I'm genuinely unsure why that is.
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Post by shawsie on Apr 24, 2024 23:54:07 GMT 1
I watch Town up and down the country like a lot of us do but AB shows absolutely no passion/emotion on the touch line. Personally I would get rid now (although I feel he will walk if we go down anyway) but better to bite the bullet now. I partially agree and disagree with this. But, for the part that Buzz (Mark Fortheringham) showed passion and emotion. Yet, we all hated him. Corberan was often emotionless in his spell, until he was. I like to see passionate and emotion driven coaches on the sideline, but, I don't think it's everything. I don't like that we brought in AB, and he's not had the ability to bring his own players in. The constant chopping and changing of managers and keeping with for the most part the same group of players is alarming. We've looked solid in most parts under AB, up until the 70th minute on average where the lack of fitness shows in the players. Hence the big collapses that we have. I will argue that I do find it confusing why he's adamant on keeping our strikers on the bench though. I'm genuinely unsure why that is. Cos we havent got anybody to give them the guns to fire......or like the rest theyre always bloody unfit!
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 25, 2024 6:53:20 GMT 1
I watch Town up and down the country like a lot of us do but AB shows absolutely no passion/emotion on the touch line. Personally I would get rid now (although I feel he will walk if we go down anyway) but better to bite the bullet now. Any manager that doesn't jump about on the touchline like a demented fool and shout incomprehensible instructions to the players in a foreign language, can do one as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 25, 2024 7:15:40 GMT 1
Good intentions waisted by shit for brains put in charge of trying to making things happen! 'Waisted by shit for brains' How ironic.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 25, 2024 7:21:33 GMT 1
I watch Town up and down the country like a lot of us do but AB shows absolutely no passion/emotion on the touch line. Personally I would get rid now (although I feel he will walk if we go down anyway) but better to bite the bullet now. Any manager that doesn't jump about on the touchline like a demented fool and shout incomprehensible instructions to the players in a foreign language, can do one as far as I'm concerned. Worringly, this is the intellect of most Town fans. 'hEs SHit, hE jUSt StaNdS StILl!!!'
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 25, 2024 7:33:28 GMT 1
Any manager that doesn't jump about on the touchline like a demented fool and shout incomprehensible instructions to the players in a foreign language, can do one as far as I'm concerned. Worringly, this is the intellect of most Town fans. 'hEs SHit, hE jUSt StaNdS StILl!!!' I don't know why people are so hung up on this. Wagner never used to jump about yet he's our most successful manager in years.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 25, 2024 7:36:25 GMT 1
Worringly, this is the intellect of most Town fans. 'hEs SHit, hE jUSt StaNdS StILl!!!' I don't know why people are so hung up on this. Wagner never used to jump about yet he's our most successful manager in years. Simple things please simple minds, I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2024 8:02:54 GMT 1
I partially agree and disagree with this. But, for the part that Buzz (Mark Fortheringham) showed passion and emotion. Yet, we all hated him. Corberan was often emotionless in his spell, until he was. I like to see passionate and emotion driven coaches on the sideline, but, I don't think it's everything. I don't like that we brought in AB, and he's not had the ability to bring his own players in. The constant chopping and changing of managers and keeping with for the most part the same group of players is alarming. We've looked solid in most parts under AB, up until the 70th minute on average where the lack of fitness shows in the players. Hence the big collapses that we have. I will argue that I do find it confusing why he's adamant on keeping our strikers on the bench though. I'm genuinely unsure why that is. Cos we havent got anybody to give them the guns to fire......or like the rest theyre always bloody unfit! As he explains it ... an 80% fit striker would be ineffective starting against 100% fit opposition. An 80% fit striiker CAN be effective in the latter part of the game against TIRING opposition.
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Post by ldr on Apr 25, 2024 8:11:43 GMT 1
Worringly, this is the intellect of most Town fans. 'hEs SHit, hE jUSt StaNdS StILl!!!' I don't know why people are so hung up on this. Wagner never used to jump about yet he's our most successful manager in years. Wagner was ultra positive early doors, loads of encouragement and applauding even if mistakes were made. I suppose he was trying to instill an ethos. He became less animated thereafter. Siewert was off the wall bonkers on the sidelines and the Cowleys were dicks. Warnock was Warnock but a mellower Warnock probably because of his age. Powell was a statue; the leaning tower of Powell against the side of the dugout. Robins was meek yet he proves he has a managers rage when he started a scrap with a ball boy a few weeks back. LC went from positivity to a seething rage in his tenure. I guess what I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t really matter what a coach does in a sideline really; it’s what the lads do on the pitch and no amount of histrionics will ever change that.
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 25, 2024 9:41:39 GMT 1
I don't know why people are so hung up on this. Wagner never used to jump about yet he's our most successful manager in years. Wagner was ultra positive early doors, loads of encouragement and applauding even if mistakes were made. I suppose he was trying to instill an ethos. He became less animated thereafter. Siewert was off the wall bonkers on the sidelines and the Cowleys were dicks. Warnock was Warnock but a mellower Warnock probably because of his age. Powell was a statue; the leaning tower of Powell against the side of the dugout. Robins was meek yet he proves he has a managers rage when he started a scrap with a ball boy a few weeks back. LC went from positivity to a seething rage in his tenure. I guess what I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t really matter what a coach does in a sideline really; it’s what the lads do on the pitch and no amount of histrionics will ever change that. Lee Clark spent half the game leathering water bottles. That went well.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 25, 2024 9:49:24 GMT 1
I don't know why people are so hung up on this. Wagner never used to jump about yet he's our most successful manager in years. Wagner was ultra positive early doors, loads of encouragement and applauding even if mistakes were made. I suppose he was trying to instill an ethos. He became less animated thereafter. Siewert was off the wall bonkers on the sidelines and the Cowleys were dicks. Warnock was Warnock but a mellower Warnock probably because of his age. Powell was a statue; the leaning tower of Powell against the side of the dugout. Robins was meek yet he proves he has a managers rage when he started a scrap with a ball boy a few weeks back. LC went from positivity to a seething rage in his tenure. I guess what I’m trying to say is that it doesn’t really matter what a coach does in a sideline really; it’s what the lads do on the pitch and no amount of histrionics will ever change that. You've forgotten Corberan. He reminded me of that Simpson's episode where Mr Burns takes charge of the softball team.
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Post by castletown on Apr 25, 2024 10:19:51 GMT 1
Buxton often spent a large portion of the match sat in the directors box smoking a cigar..imagine the abuse he'd get now
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 25, 2024 10:21:29 GMT 1
Buxton often spent a large portion of the match sat in the directors box smoking a cigar..imagine the abuse he'd get now Wasn't that Tom Johnston?
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Post by scutcher on Apr 25, 2024 11:31:44 GMT 1
Where is the message from Kevin?
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Post by runner76 on Apr 25, 2024 11:35:13 GMT 1
Where is the message from Kevin? We need to win a game to hear from him
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