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Post by kennyk2 on May 4, 2024 19:01:49 GMT 1
I wouldn't have thought so with last week's outburst. First game next season we have this squad and the manager still intact... really?
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 19:07:02 GMT 1
I wouldn't have thought so with last week's outburst. First game next season we have this squad and the manager still intact... really? I bet that’s exactly what we’ll do 👌🤍💙
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Post by kennyk2 on May 4, 2024 19:10:34 GMT 1
I wouldn't have thought so with last week's outburst. First game next season we have this squad and the manager still intact... really? I bet that’s exactly what we’ll do 👌🤍💙 The way this shitshow's going you could be right.
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Post by Wings of a Duff on May 4, 2024 19:11:59 GMT 1
If you thought about your posts like you do your articles, nobody on here would ever have an issue with you. You're like Jekyll & Hyde, so it's a bit rich to accuse others of "flip flopping" IMO. Can you provide some examples of this flip flopping? Exhibit A: Your articles, interviews with former players/managers etc. Exhibit B: Your entire demeanour when you post on here away from threads related to your work. It's like you're two different people.
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Post by htafcokay on May 4, 2024 19:13:40 GMT 1
Can you provide some examples of this flip flopping? Exhibit A: Your articles, interviews with former players/managers etc. Exhibit B: Your entire demeanour when you post on here away from threads related to your work. It's like you're two different people. No, I'm just a miserable c***.
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Post by rubicon on May 4, 2024 19:20:59 GMT 1
I was really up there in the clouds with this guys appointment, BUT, boy, how that's changed. 1. No real sign of the attacking football promised, so no different to Moore in that respect. ( Yes I do know about Watford and Leeds) 2. Excuses and blaming the players week after week, sure they're shit, but it's just an easy option. 3. No attempt to win at certain games like Rotherham, just why? 4. Why are we the only bottom six/eight team not putting in a shift on the final day? 5. He isn't living here. Sure his family have jobs and positions etc, but unlike Wagner, it just seems half arsed. Maybe my view only, but it just adds to his heart not being in it. 6. I can't see how it's going to improve, have no confidence in the guy, owner or anyone else at the club. It's abominable all round. 7. Yes I've had a few, so all comments whilst sincerely felt at this minute, need to be taken with a pinch of salt tomorrow.......maybe.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on May 4, 2024 19:28:23 GMT 1
Well, Wagner’s “not normally a third league” manager, but when Norwich almost inevitably kick him out, I’d prefer him than AB, although AB may well be the best of the rest we can hope to attract.
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Post by efesodje23 on May 4, 2024 19:29:24 GMT 1
I've seen absolutely nothing from AB to suggest he is any better or worse than Moore, Siewert or even MF.
Tactics and style of play have been baffling. Really weird set-ups, Kasumu playing wider than Thomas about 5/6 games ago etc and don't even get me started on his substitutions.
It's been shite. Let's not sugar coat it. We're effectively saying we're relying on seeing something different and inspired from AB when he's had plenty of time to get something better (than the shite he has stumped up) out of the current squad. The squad is a problem, but he's meant to be a manager. Grow some balls and put the B team players in 5/6 games ago if the first team stunk that much. He'd then maybe have an argument for deserving next season.
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Post by detox on May 4, 2024 19:32:30 GMT 1
I'm still not 100% about AB...the revelations he's made have made me uneasy because it does smack a bit of blaming everybody else..it's not my fault. There seems an air of 'superiority' about him, a lack of patience..even a bit of easily irritated . Whatever the weaknesses of our squad he found zero solution..he couldn't motivate, or connect, or unite the team...we couldn't win, we couldn't score..it's not all down to the players, the coach has to find ways to to solve these problems, and he didn't.
maybe he's in denial about his own failings ?
We have a massive job now during the summer, we probably need to sign 10 new players..and they have to be the right players this time..grafters, committed, energetic..etc. Who is going to decide..? More importantly though, we need a coach that connect with the players, can direct, motivate , develop. I just don't think AB is that man..he wants it handed on a plate.We don't need a coach that goes public criticising the players, the club..everything.
Next season, with so many changes in personnel could be an instant hit, but only if we have the right motivator in charge..and I just don't think AB is that man.
I don't know what KN has said to him, but it already smacks of AB saying' let me think about it...I'll let you know if I think you're worthy of my talents'...
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Post by efesodje23 on May 4, 2024 19:35:09 GMT 1
I'm still not 100% about AB...the revelations he's made have made me uneasy because it does smack a bit of blaming everybody else..it's not my fault. There seems an air of 'superiority' about him, a lack of patience..even a bit of easily irritated . Whatever the weaknesses of our squad he found zero solution..he couldn't motivate, or connect, or unite the team...we couldn't win, we couldn't score..it's not all down to the players, the coach has to find ways to to solve these problems, and he didn't. maybe he's in denial about his own failings ? We have a massive job now during the summer, we probably need to sign 10 new players..and they have to be the right players this time..grafters, committed, energetic..etc. Who is going to decide..? More importantly though, we need a coach that connect with the players, can direct, motivate , develop. I just don't think AB is that man..he wants it handed on a plate.We don't need a coach that goes public criticising the players, the club..everything. Next season, with so many changes in personnel could be an instant hit, but only if we have the right motivator in charge..and I just don't think AB is that man. I don't know what KN has said to him, but it already smacks of AB saying' let me think about it...I'll let you know if I think you're worthy of my talents'... Yep. We are terriers. He thinks he's a Tibet Mastiff.
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Post by harris on May 4, 2024 19:37:32 GMT 1
Andre has accepted his mistakes. And he’s let the truth out about certain players taking the club for a ride with disgraceful behaviour he hasn’t seen in 30 years.
Only Town fans could see that as ‘blaming everyone else for problems that are his fault’. Christ alive.
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Post by drumriggend on May 4, 2024 19:43:31 GMT 1
He’s been sold a pup..
He’s obviously partly responsible for taking the job on..not done his own personal due diligence but..
I’m sympathetic with him..
I I’m personally hoping he stays..
But wouldn’t be surprised if he fooked off..
Put it this way..
If we had kept Darren Moore until now and got relegated..
Then announced Andre as our new manager next week..
Everyone would s creaming theresens saying how the foook have we got him🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
It’s a no brainier for me..
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Post by boooothy on May 4, 2024 19:45:26 GMT 1
I've seen absolutely nothing from AB to suggest he is any better or worse than Moore, Siewert or even MF. Tactics and style of play have been baffling. Really weird set-ups, Kasumu playing wider than Thomas about 5/6 games ago etc and don't even get me started on his substitutions. It's been shite. Let's not sugar coat it. We're effectively saying we're relying on seeing something different and inspired from AB when he's had plenty of time to get something better (than the shite he has stumped up) out of the current squad. The squad is a problem, but he's meant to be a manager. Grow some balls and put the B team players in 5/6 games ago if the first team stunk that much. He'd then maybe have an argument for deserving next season. The only thing is his reputation. Siewart can’t come in shouting his mouth off “like he’s won the European Cup” he commanded no respect. Same with Moore after Warnock let the silly little boys piss about. As for Fotheringham he just got laughed at and became a joke figure trying to implement discipline and hard work. If players know André is the boss and there is no use running off crying to the owner. That they will be allowed to rot in the reserves as they used to say. His CV should demand respect. Having said that if he wants to leave he can leave for me as a total and complete flop and a failure.
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Post by detox on May 4, 2024 19:50:17 GMT 1
Andre has accepted his mistakes. And he’s let the truth out about certain players taking the club for a ride with disgraceful behaviour he hasn’t seen in 30 years. Only Town fans could see that as ‘blaming everyone else for problems that are his fault’. Christ alive. yeah a couple of sentences that yeah i've probably made mistakes, then 2 paragraphs on everyone else.. Christ you're so gullible....
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 4, 2024 19:50:21 GMT 1
Can someone expand on the thing about him ‘not living here’?
Was he really flying home regularly, and leaving training to others?
If there’s truth in that, it would seem odd.
It would be like a taster visit to Managing HTFC?
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Post by jasrick on May 4, 2024 19:51:11 GMT 1
He’s been sold a pup.. He’s obviously partly responsible for taking the job on..not done his own personal due diligence but.. I’m sympathetic with him.. I I’m personally hoping he stays.. But wouldn’t be surprised if he fooked off.. Put it this way.. If we had kept Darren Moore until now and got relegated.. Then announced Andre as our new manager next week.. Everyone would s creaming theresens saying how the foook have we got him🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ It’s a no brainier for me.. 🍻🍻 Agreed. Unlike Moore, Fotheringham and Siewart, AB has a managerial record to back up his abilities. Either he has become a crap manager since we took him on or there’re other factors to blame for the team’s poor performance. I’m sure he hasn’t become a bad manager in the space of 3-4 months. If he’s willing to stay, we back him to sort this mess out and I’m sure he’ll end up being successful with us.
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Post by harris on May 4, 2024 20:01:46 GMT 1
Andre has accepted his mistakes. And he’s let the truth out about certain players taking the club for a ride with disgraceful behaviour he hasn’t seen in 30 years. Only Town fans could see that as ‘blaming everyone else for problems that are his fault’. Christ alive. yeah a couple of sentences that yeah i've probably made mistakes, then 2 paragraphs on everyone else.. Christ you're so gullible.... Gullible? So you think what he’s saying is completely unsubstantiated? Do me a favour.
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Post by harris on May 4, 2024 20:03:00 GMT 1
Can someone expand on the thing about him ‘not living here’? Was he really flying home regularly, and leaving training to others? If there’s truth in that, it would seem odd. It would be like a taster visit to Managing HTFC? Kev called this out as absolute bollocks a few weeks ago.
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 20:04:57 GMT 1
Can someone expand on the thing about him ‘not living here’? Was he really flying home regularly, and leaving training to others? If there’s truth in that, it would seem odd. It would be like a taster visit to Managing HTFC? Kev called this out as absolute bollocks a few weeks ago. Kev isn’t here either though. And the other two clowns are probably tossing it off too 😂👏
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 4, 2024 20:05:25 GMT 1
Can someone expand on the thing about him ‘not living here’? Was he really flying home regularly, and leaving training to others? If there’s truth in that, it would seem odd. It would be like a taster visit to Managing HTFC? Kev called this out as absolute bollocks a few weeks ago. Ta, didn’t seem right at all. Proves the value of fake news of course.
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Post by buckers on May 4, 2024 20:07:30 GMT 1
Kev called this out as absolute bollocks a few weeks ago. Kev isn’t here either though. And the other two clowns are probably tossing it off too 😂👏 Nagle is here.
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Post by goodbet on May 4, 2024 20:11:24 GMT 1
He’s been sold a pup.. He’s obviously partly responsible for taking the job on..not done his own personal due diligence but.. I’m sympathetic with him.. I I’m personally hoping he stays.. But wouldn’t be surprised if he fooked off.. Put it this way.. If we had kept Darren Moore until now and got relegated.. Then announced Andre as our new manager next week.. Everyone would s creaming theresens saying how the foook have we got him🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ It’s a no brainier for me.. 🍻🍻 Agreed. Unlike Moore, Fotheringham and Siewart, AB has a managerial record to back up his abilities. Either he has become a crap manager since we took him on or there’re other factors to blame for the team’s poor performance. I’m sure he hasn’t become a bad manager in the space of 3-4 months. If he’s willing to stay, we back him to sort this mess out and I’m sure he’ll end up being successful with us. His last job before us was not a good recommendation so not just when joining us did he become crap. There are factors that in the team's poor performance, but his performance since joining has not been good. If we are to back anyone we need someone in charge who has some footballing knowledge and can pick a player and knowns the sort of player we need. This is not someone who we seem to have at the club at the moment. So whomever is the manager they will need a lot of luck.
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 20:14:19 GMT 1
Kev isn’t here either though. And the other two clowns are probably tossing it off too 😂👏 Nagle is here. He’s here today - he’s still not here day in day out. I manage a team remotely as well and it’s tough. I travel back every week to check in / see people in person. But being geographically distant - you have to really trust that people you’re leaving in charge are doing a good job. And I find it hard to see that ANYONE comes out of this first season with any credit at all. Players / Management / whoever. Maybe it’s old school but I think they need someone there day in day out letting them know they can’t down tools and slack off. I’m probably wrong though. Just my observation from afar.
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Post by prepare on May 4, 2024 20:14:49 GMT 1
He’s been sold a pup.. He’s obviously partly responsible for taking the job on..not done his own personal due diligence but.. I’m sympathetic with him.. I I’m personally hoping he stays.. But wouldn’t be surprised if he fooked off.. Put it this way.. If we had kept Darren Moore until now and got relegated.. Then announced Andre as our new manager next week.. Everyone would s creaming theresens saying how the foook have we got him🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ It’s a no brainier for me.. 🍻🍻 Agreed. Unlike Moore, Fotheringham and Siewart, AB has a managerial record to back up his abilities. Either he has become a crap manager since we took him on or there’re other factors to blame for the team’s poor performance. I’m sure he hasn’t become a bad manager in the space of 3-4 months. If he’s willing to stay, we back him to sort this mess out and I’m sure he’ll end up being successful with us. I agree but it as to be quick and I’m sure it will
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Post by Big Ern on May 4, 2024 20:26:55 GMT 1
He’s here today - he’s still not here day in day out. I manage a team remotely as well and it’s tough. I travel back every week to check in / see people in person. But being geographically distant - you have to really trust that people you’re leaving in charge are doing a good job. And I find it hard to see that ANYONE comes out of this first season with any credit at all. Players / Management / whoever. Maybe it’s old school but I think they need someone there day in day out letting them know they can’t down tools and slack off. I’m probably wrong though. Just my observation from afar. Isn't that Jake Edwards job?
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Post by Floyds on May 4, 2024 20:28:37 GMT 1
He’s here today - he’s still not here day in day out. I manage a team remotely as well and it’s tough. I travel back every week to check in / see people in person. But being geographically distant - you have to really trust that people you’re leaving in charge are doing a good job. And I find it hard to see that ANYONE comes out of this first season with any credit at all. Players / Management / whoever. Maybe it’s old school but I think they need someone there day in day out letting them know they can’t down tools and slack off. I’m probably wrong though. Just my observation from afar. Isn't that Jake Edwards job? Yeah - but he’s probably tossing it off too - not sure I would trust that lad to run a bath let alone a football club.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 4, 2024 20:29:26 GMT 1
Just seen his interview on Sky. Feels like a lot of bridge building is needed. If he stays he’s got a lot of arms round shoulders conversations to be had with some of this team. I tend to ignore rumour on here about the back office stuff, but for AB to come out with his recent words makes you wonder has been going on over the course of the last season. It proves the old adage to me, that the right attitude & aptitude, mixed with a little bit of talent is always going to win the day. Seems like the tail was wagging the dog? Football has been shown to be about the best TEAM. Average teams with the right mentality, playing for each other and giving 1000% will be any team of all-stars every time. Look at PSG. Look at Leicester and Huddersfield a few years ago. Ipswich this year. Wrexham. I could go on but it's also no coincidence that the most successful managers are great man-managers. Ferguson, warnock etc Yes you need ability and tactics but the difference is team spirit and willingness to run through walls.
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Post by gledholt terrier on May 4, 2024 20:33:02 GMT 1
Genuinely not sure if I want him to stay or not. On the one hand, he will absolutely ensure the disruptive dividers will be drummed out, it looks like he has a pedigree and I think turning to an old school manager is regressive.
Unfortunately, he has shown absolutely zero positives in team selection or use of subs, there is no discernible style of play and I think he starts next season with negative equity among the fans, rightly or wrongly.
The straw to clutch at is that he seems to have some leverage to change things. Perhaps an autocratic approach, including being given overrides with the 2 Directors (if they are still here). I’ve heard, and I don’t want to go all castle hill here, that Edwards has or is being been shifted sideways to concentrate on gaining control of the stadium (no idea if that’s true). I suspect it may be harsh to sack Cartwright, who hasn’t really had enough time. But I’d do it.
As it stands at the moment, I fear we could drop right through to the basement for the 3rd time in my Town supporting life.
Anyway, Summer (or what we now laughingly call Summer) awaits. See you in August.
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Post by Moooooy on May 4, 2024 20:37:49 GMT 1
Just seen his interview on Sky. Feels like a lot of bridge building is needed. If he stays he’s got a lot of arms round shoulders conversations to be had with some of this team. I tend to ignore rumour on here about the back office stuff, but for AB to come out with his recent words makes you wonder has been going on over the course of the last season. It proves the old adage to me, that the right attitude & aptitude, mixed with a little bit of talent is always going to win the day. Seems like the tail was wagging the dog? Football has been shown to be about the best TEAM. Average teams with the right mentality, playing for each other and giving 1000% will be any team of all-stars every time. Look at PSG. Look at Leicester and Huddersfield a few years ago. Ipswich this year. Wrexham. I could go on but it's also no coincidence that the most successful managers are great man-managers. Ferguson, warnock etc Yes you need ability and tactics but the difference is team spirit and willingness to run through walls. And those great managers run the show. What they say goes, and if a player or players don’t want to play along they get binned off. For too long the players have run the show here, it’s time to redress the balance and get everyone pulling in the right direction, led by the manager.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 4, 2024 20:40:36 GMT 1
If he needs strongly convincing or doesnt look 100% up for the fight then I hope KN puts a huge penalty clause in his contract if he walks. We need someone committed not another corboran or robins situation.
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