Our ,er, "strikers"

[wigster]

Berzorg - a selfish show off of a player who seems to play only for his own enjoyment and self-gratification, rather than for his team mates or for our club. He should never play for us again this season and no way should we even think of signing the arrogant so-and-so on a permanent.

Koroma - should grow a pair. Invariably plays with his chin on his chest, is certainly not up for a battle, and has the one trick.

Healey - best finisher at the club (not saying a lot is it?) but injured throughout his career and injured soon after joining. Is taking a hell of a long time to come back from his latest injury . How many games now are we saying he can only manage 30 minutes?

Ward - if the answer is Danny Ward I don't know what on earth the question can be. Scored in one match all season and got 5 goals the whole of last season. Look at his career record - 80 goals in 15 years. We know why he's got a 2 year contract when most would have been happy for him to leave.

Radulovic - hadn't played since November or whenever when we signed him.Scored a good goal, and produced a good move on his debut but since then has hardly made an impression
. To be fair, he may be more a Jordan Rhodes type player than a leader of the line as he hardly seems to relish the physical side of football, but as yet does not strike me as a battler.

Hudlin,Harratt,Jones,Simpson,Phillips - none of them inspiring,for different reasons, and between them might make one decent striker.

I know I might just be repeating the obvious with the above observations, but when we all say that we should start with two strikers I can't for the life of me say which ones we should play, apart from Healey for,hopefully, one half.

Worryingly, most of these will still be here next season.

[htafcokay]

Just what does Kyle Hudlin have to do to get a game?!

[wigster]

Apr 20, 2024 21:12:16 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Just what does Kyle Hudlin have to do to get a game?!

Isn't he out on loan at Burton Albion and played for them 5 times (no goals), or is he back with us ?

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Said it at the time, Hudlin was a joke signing, no disrespect but is it any wonder we're in this mess with signings like this. Players like Jones and Harratt will be first choice next season.

[legoat]

Kyle Hudlin started up front for us at Hull this season.

Our starting striker.

We've signed two strikers since then.

Neither started today.

[space hardware]

Apr 20, 2024 21:21:30 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Said it at the time, Hudlin was a joke signing, no disrespect but is it any wonder we're in this mess with signings like this. Players like Jones and Harratt will be first choice next season.

We've signed lower league punts (that's "punts", by the way) for too long now and it's finally catching up with us.

No genuine Championship quality players in their prime have darkened our doors since relegation from the PL, which is utterly unforgivable when you consider the amount of money that has been incinerated since 2019.

Shambolic.

[aksaiblue]

3 wingers started and 3 strikers on the bench today, what a joke.

[benhomly]

Apr 20, 2024 21:14:34 GMT 1 wigster said:

Apr 20, 2024 21:12:16 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Just what does Kyle Hudlin have to do to get a game?!

Isn't he out on loan at Burton Albion and played for them 5 times (no goals), or is he back with us ?

I've a sneaky feeling he was being sarcastic

[Toxic Ted]

We’re missing Harrett. He’s the only genuine poacher we have.

[legoat]

Apr 20, 2024 21:48:41 GMT 1 Toxic Ted said:

We’re missing Harrett. He’s the only genuine poacher we have.

It would be a massive gamble bringing him back next season

[wigster]

Apr 20, 2024 21:45:55 GMT 1 benhomly said:

Apr 20, 2024 21:14:34 GMT 1 wigster said:

Isn't he out on loan at Burton Albion and played for them 5 times (no goals), or is he back with us ?

I've a sneaky feeling he was being sarcastic

Oops !

[colnevalleyblue]

Apr 20, 2024 21:48:41 GMT 1 Toxic Ted said:

We’re missing Harrett. He’s the only genuine poacher we have.

Lol!

[robinvar]

Healey seems gutsy. A lad who has come right from the bottom up. A keeper and someone who will be key to getting the cogs turning in the right direction.

[bluebeard]

Are Ward and Berzorg actually strikers. When we originally signed Ward from Bolton he was a winger and according to Matt Glennon Berzorg is not a striker.

[Tim Nice But Dim]

Apr 20, 2024 21:48:41 GMT 1 Toxic Ted said:

We’re missing Harrett. He’s the only genuine poacher we have.

Really, i nearly choked on my glass of Pimm's.

[utttrooper]

Whilst Burgzorg has been decent the past few games before today and I really didn't complain abkut him starting, he was quite shit today and whilst having plenty of talent has a shite mindset. Ward just hasn't been good enough since Carlos left and whilst playing decently today only has a future next season if we go down. Healey needs to start against the brum and is the one I'd back to save us out of all our strikers. Radulovic wasn't ready for the Championship when we signed him and whilst he seems tidy on the ball and seems to have a decent shot on him needs a preseason and to gey on the weights. Koroma isn't a striker and is a tad one dimensional but has quality and some people seem to have forgotten we signed him from fucking Leyton Orient. Jones only seems good against tired defences and isn't Championship quality yet. If we stay up I'd say we let Burgzorg go back unless he can prove himself in these next 2 games, let Ward go and bring in someone with quality like Ike Ugbo at the massive who's out of contract t at his parent club. If we go down I'd look to bring someone in who is young and could be great in a few years and look for a god loan in the mean time. Rhodes can go regardless, Harrat and Hudlin can go out on loan and I'd keep Simpson as he seems to be good at hassling defenders at the very least

[benhomly]

Apr 20, 2024 22:22:00 GMT 1 bluebeard said:

Are Ward and Berzorg actually strikers. When we originally signed Ward from Bolton he was a winger and according to Matt Glennon Berzorg is not a striker.

Don't think we need Glennon's insight to come to that conclusion; we've all seen that for ourselves. In abundance.

[PeeWee]

If i was Kevin Nagel i'd be on the phone to Breitenreiter telling him to play the two striker he'd bought against Birmingham. If Burgzorg starts again this manager has to go at the end of the season. However after his radio interview yesterday i think he will walk.

[specialun]

Obviously he has to start a central striker but as the OP said it’s not exactly an obvious choice

Saving grace is we have 5 subs so can / should be able to get 45 from Healey for example - and if that’s all he can do fine we’ve got subs to use

Those suggesting play two strikers the score was 0-0 when we took off Burgzorg and brought on two strikers. We created more chances but lost 4-0 in 30 mins. That’s 30 mins was a perfect example why we don’t play with two strikers.

[Big Ern]

Apr 21, 2024 10:23:09 GMT 1 specialun said:

Obviously he has to start a central striker but as the OP said it’s not exactly an obvious choice

Saving grace is we have 5 subs so can / should be able to get 45 from Healey for example - and if that’s all he can do fine we’ve got subs to use

Those suggesting play two strikers the score was 0-0 when we took off Burgzorg and brought on two strikers. We created more chances but lost 4-0 in 30 mins. That’s 30 mins was a perfect example why we don’t play with two strikers.

The problem wasn't bringing on 2 strikers. It was taking off Matos and Spencer. As soon as we did that we capitulated.

I've racked my brains over and over and still don't get it. Can somebody please justify the decision to keep Pearson on at right back and sub our best defender off who is actually a right back?

Also, the decision to take Matos off when Kasumu was having another of his poor games.

Bonkers decisions.

[rickrast]

Bad as Scargill's miners....our "goalscorers" always going on strike. We need some 'scabs'....break the strikers' strike.

[aksaiblue]

Apr 21, 2024 10:51:24 GMT 1 Big Ern said:

Apr 21, 2024 10:23:09 GMT 1 specialun said:

Obviously he has to start a central striker but as the OP said it’s not exactly an obvious choice

Saving grace is we have 5 subs so can / should be able to get 45 from Healey for example - and if that’s all he can do fine we’ve got subs to use

Those suggesting play two strikers the score was 0-0 when we took off Burgzorg and brought on two strikers. We created more chances but lost 4-0 in 30 mins. That’s 30 mins was a perfect example why we don’t play with two strikers.

The problem wasn't bringing on 2 strikers. It was taking off Matos and Spencer. As soon as we did that we capitulated.

I've racked my brains over and over and still don't get it. Can somebody please justify the decision to keep Pearson on at right back and sub our best defender off who is actually a right back?

Also, the decision to take Matos off when Kasumu was having another of his poor games.

Bonkers decisions.

I don't think AB likes Matos but the fact is he took him off at 1 -1 v PNE, 1 - 0 v Bristol City and 0 - 0 v Swansea, and we all know what happened. In the absence of Hoggy, he is the only player capable of protecting the back 4.

[isitjustme]

Apr 20, 2024 22:35:20 GMT 1 utttrooper said:

Whilst Burgzorg has been decent the past few games before today and I really didn't complain abkut him starting, he was quite shit today and whilst having plenty of talent has a shite mindset. Ward just hasn't been good enough since Carlos left and whilst playing decently today only has a future next season if we go down. Healey needs to start against the brum and is the one I'd back to save us out of all our strikers. Radulovic wasn't ready for the Championship when we signed him and whilst he seems tidy on the ball and seems to have a decent shot on him needs a preseason and to gey on the weights. Koroma isn't a striker and is a tad one dimensional but has quality and some people seem to have forgotten we signed him from fucking Leyton Orient. Jones only seems good against tired defences and isn't Championship quality yet. If we stay up I'd say we let Burgzorg go back unless he can prove himself in these next 2 games, let Ward go and bring in someone with quality like Ike Ugbo at the massive who's out of contract t at his parent club. If we go down I'd look to bring someone in who is young and could be great in a few years and look for a god loan in the mean time. Rhodes can go regardless, Harrat and Hudlin can go out on loan and I'd keep Simpson as he seems to be good at hassling defenders at the very least

Can somebody put me right on this. I thought Rhodes's contract was up at end of this season. And when we didn't recall from his loan in Jan, that was that, no longer a Town player after. Am I wrong? Wouldn't be the first time !!! 

[runner76]

to be fair, a lot of focus on strikers (which is fair enough) but we also need to look at defence which has been shocking this season. I cannot honestly think of any season in the modern era of the game where we have lost so many games with 4 + goals against us...........this season seems to be the most be some margin.....so unless these strikers are bagging 4+ in some games, we would still not be winning....

[boooothy]

Feels like years ago now but when the summer transfer window closed every single one of us were perplexed at no striker signing after Rhodes left.

I specifically remember replying to Kevin on Twitter along the lines of, thank fuck Warnock is here cause no other bugger would get goals out of that squad.

[utttrooper]

Apr 22, 2024 10:34:10 GMT 1 isitjustme said:

Apr 20, 2024 22:35:20 GMT 1 utttrooper said:

Whilst Burgzorg has been decent the past few games before today and I really didn't complain abkut him starting, he was quite shit today and whilst having plenty of talent has a shite mindset. Ward just hasn't been good enough since Carlos left and whilst playing decently today only has a future next season if we go down. Healey needs to start against the brum and is the one I'd back to save us out of all our strikers. Radulovic wasn't ready for the Championship when we signed him and whilst he seems tidy on the ball and seems to have a decent shot on him needs a preseason and to gey on the weights. Koroma isn't a striker and is a tad one dimensional but has quality and some people seem to have forgotten we signed him from fucking Leyton Orient. Jones only seems good against tired defences and isn't Championship quality yet. If we stay up I'd say we let Burgzorg go back unless he can prove himself in these next 2 games, let Ward go and bring in someone with quality like Ike Ugbo at the massive who's out of contract t at his parent club. If we go down I'd look to bring someone in who is young and could be great in a few years and look for a god loan in the mean time. Rhodes can go regardless, Harrat and Hudlin can go out on loan and I'd keep Simpson as he seems to be good at hassling defenders at the very least

Can somebody put me right on this. I thought Rhodes's contract was up at end of this season. And when we didn't recall from his loan in Jan, that was that, no longer a Town player after. Am I wrong? Wouldn't be the first time !!! 

I meant as in he can just go and we don't renew his contract

[tepidterrier]

Apr 22, 2024 14:23:57 GMT 1 runner76 said:

to be fair, a lot of focus on strikers (which is fair enough) but we also need to look at defence which has been shocking this season. I cannot honestly think of any season in the modern era of the game where we have lost so many games with 4 + goals against us...........this season seems to be the most be some margin.....so unless these strikers are bagging 4+ in some games, we would still not be winning....

Helik has got a free pass from most because of his goals, and early season form. Since the new year he's been poor. Pearson has been absolutely disgraceful at times, and has developed a Hogg complex. Lees has been hit and miss. Balker is like a Rolls Royce made of paper that won't go near other cars. Nakayama was getting there by the time of his injury. Jackson nowhere near the level required. And if Ayina can't unseat any of the above I'm not sure he has a future with us. Spencer and to a much lesser extent Headley emerge with some credit this season.

[boooothy]

Apr 22, 2024 10:34:10 GMT 1 isitjustme said:

Apr 20, 2024 22:35:20 GMT 1 utttrooper said:

Whilst Burgzorg has been decent the past few games before today and I really didn't complain abkut him starting, he was quite shit today and whilst having plenty of talent has a shite mindset. Ward just hasn't been good enough since Carlos left and whilst playing decently today only has a future next season if we go down. Healey needs to start against the brum and is the one I'd back to save us out of all our strikers. Radulovic wasn't ready for the Championship when we signed him and whilst he seems tidy on the ball and seems to have a decent shot on him needs a preseason and to gey on the weights. Koroma isn't a striker and is a tad one dimensional but has quality and some people seem to have forgotten we signed him from fucking Leyton Orient. Jones only seems good against tired defences and isn't Championship quality yet. If we stay up I'd say we let Burgzorg go back unless he can prove himself in these next 2 games, let Ward go and bring in someone with quality like Ike Ugbo at the massive who's out of contract t at his parent club. If we go down I'd look to bring someone in who is young and could be great in a few years and look for a god loan in the mean time. Rhodes can go regardless, Harrat and Hudlin can go out on loan and I'd keep Simpson as he seems to be good at hassling defenders at the very least

Can somebody put me right on this. I thought Rhodes's contract was up at end of this season. And when we didn't recall from his loan in Jan, that was that, no longer a Town player after. Am I wrong? Wouldn't be the first time !!! 

We still pay him, so he’s ours.

[isitjustme]

Apr 22, 2024 15:46:19 GMT 1 boooothy said:

Apr 22, 2024 10:34:10 GMT 1 isitjustme said:

Can somebody put me right on this. I thought Rhodes's contract was up at end of this season. And when we didn't recall from his loan in Jan, that was that, no longer a Town player after. Am I wrong? Wouldn't be the first time !!! 

We still pay him, so he’s ours.

Yes he's ours till end of season, but I haven't heard anything about offering him a new contract.

[boooothy]

Apr 22, 2024 15:55:18 GMT 1 isitjustme said:

Apr 22, 2024 15:46:19 GMT 1 boooothy said:

We still pay him, so he’s ours.

Yes he's ours till end of season, but I haven't heard anything about offering him a new contract.

No i don’t believe anything is official but if i know Jordan he’ll be wherever offers him the best contract.