joek
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Post by joek on Apr 21, 2024 11:29:38 GMT 1
We don’t have one. Convinced myself that a silver lining to relegation would be the chance - if KN can bankroll us and sustain heavy losses (!!!) - to clear the slate and start again. Now with the chat on other threads about contracts and the difficulty to get rid of players, I’m not even sure we can do that, can we?
I would have happily seen Corberan off after that spanking at Norwich in the first season, but he knew what he was doing didn’t he? He coached the players into a way of playing - not everyone liked it - and improved them. He’s doing it again at WBA. Williamson is doing it at MK Dons. McKenna has done it at Ipswich. Martin did it at MK Dons, Swansea and now Saints. McCann presumably is doing it at Donny.
How many of our players have got better recently? Spencer? And he was coached by the Motherwell staff!
If KN is serious, he must, must, must find someone to hang his hat on and stick with. AB has been a disaster, DM was a disaster, NW was perfect for our squad but not a manager to build around long-term. Problem of course, is that our exec team have shown themselves to be completely ill equipped to make recruitment decisions of this nature.
KN did not become a rich man by being an idiot. My only hope is that he can see what a disaster his tenure has been so far, realises he has been let down by key people around him, and finds some people that can put it right.
I just hope that whatever league we are in next year, I am watching a Huddersfield team that I can identify with, that has players who respect the shirt, look like they’ve been coached and can actually pass the ball.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 21, 2024 11:32:41 GMT 1
Yep, no shape. It’s been like this at times this season…
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Post by rockwall on Apr 21, 2024 11:35:09 GMT 1
We don’t have one. Convinced myself that a silver lining to relegation would be the chance - if KN can bankroll us and sustain heavy losses (!!!) - to clear the slate and start again. Now with the chat on other threads about contracts and the difficulty to get rid of players, I’m not even sure we can do that, can we? I would have happily seen Corberan off after that spanking at Norwich in the first season, but he knew what he was doing didn’t he? He coached the players into a way of playing - not everyone liked it - and improved them. He’s doing it again at WBA. Williamson is doing it at MK Dons. McKenna has done it at Ipswich. Martin did it at MK Dons, Swansea and now Saints. McCann presumably is doing it at Donny. How many of our players have got better recently? Spencer? And he was coached by the Motherwell staff! If KN is serious, he must, must, must find someone to hang his hat on and stick with. AB has been a disaster, DM was a disaster, NW was perfect for our squad but not a manager to build around long-term. Problem of course, is that our exec team have shown themselves to be completely ill equipped to make recruitment decisions of this nature. KN did not become a rich man by being an idiot. My only hope is that he can see what a disaster his tenure has been so far, realises he has been let down by key people around him, and finds some people that can put it right. I just hope that whatever league we are in next year, I am watching a Huddersfield team that I can identify with, that has players who respect the shirt, look like they’ve been coached and can actually pass the ball. Technical director at MK Dons gave Martin, Manning and now Williamson their 1st jobs. Seems to know a good manager.... |
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Post by specialun on Apr 21, 2024 11:35:28 GMT 1
AB wants to play a high press
I’d like that too but we don’t have the players capable - definitely not mentally, some not physically
Yesterdays instruction was supposedly to play a high press from the front 4 in the final 3rd - if that’s what he told the players only Rudoni did that imo. Koroma sometimes, Burgzorg trotted around and Thomas either did it well or didn’t even bother trying. The midfield two were then so far behind. You press as a unit not in 1 or 2 or don’t press at all
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Amigo
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Post by Amigo on Apr 21, 2024 11:41:54 GMT 1
Personally this is why I think we'd be better staying with AB. He knows what he wants to do it but can't do it with this lot because they aren't fit enough, but he'll now know who he can trust to get on board with it over the summer for next season and who has to go.
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Post by royrace on Apr 21, 2024 11:46:23 GMT 1
AB wants to play a high press I’d like that too but we don’t have the players capable - definitely not mentally, some not physically Yesterdays instruction was supposedly to play a high press from the front 4 in the final 3rd - if that’s what he told the players only Rudoni did that imo. Koroma sometimes, Burgzorg trotted around and Thomas either did it well or didn’t even bother trying. The midfield two were then so far behind. You press as a unit not in 1 or 2 or don’t press at all You see a lot of the players looking round at each other wondering why the other isn't doing what they think they should be. For a simpleton that just looks to me like they haven't been coached effectively and messages aren't getting across for whatever reason. Head coaches fault, his assistants, the players or all of the above? |
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Post by specialun on Apr 21, 2024 12:09:33 GMT 1
AB wants to play a high press I’d like that too but we don’t have the players capable - definitely not mentally, some not physically Yesterdays instruction was supposedly to play a high press from the front 4 in the final 3rd - if that’s what he told the players only Rudoni did that imo. Koroma sometimes, Burgzorg trotted around and Thomas either did it well or didn’t even bother trying. The midfield two were then so far behind. You press as a unit not in 1 or 2 or don’t press at all You see a lot of the players looking round at each other wondering why the other isn't doing what they think they should be. For a simpleton that just looks to me like they haven't been coached effectively and messages aren't getting across for whatever reason. Head coaches fault, his assistants, the players or all of the above? Combination to me - it’s not to say the messages aren’t getting across. You also need a football brain - message could be crystal clear. It sounds like he said final third press, elsewhere on pitch compact. That’s pretty simple aside him putting a flashing light a third down the pitch not sure what he could do you’d expect an under 15 team to understand it Obviously we don’t know if the message was that clear but it didn’t sound like he was asking much! |
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Post by benhomly on Apr 21, 2024 12:51:00 GMT 1
We don’t have one. Convinced myself that a silver lining to relegation would be the chance - if KN can bankroll us and sustain heavy losses (!!!) - to clear the slate and start again. Now with the chat on other threads about contracts and the difficulty to get rid of players, I’m not even sure we can do that, can we? I would have happily seen Corberan off after that spanking at Norwich in the first season, but he knew what he was doing didn’t he? He coached the players into a way of playing - not everyone liked it - and improved them. He’s doing it again at WBA. Williamson is doing it at MK Dons. McKenna has done it at Ipswich. Martin did it at MK Dons, Swansea and now Saints. McCann presumably is doing it at Donny. How many of our players have got better recently? Spencer? And he was coached by the Motherwell staff! If KN is serious, he must, must, must find someone to hang his hat on and stick with. AB has been a disaster, DM was a disaster, NW was perfect for our squad but not a manager to build around long-term. Problem of course, is that our exec team have shown themselves to be completely ill equipped to make recruitment decisions of this nature. KN did not become a rich man by being an idiot. My only hope is that he can see what a disaster his tenure has been so far, realises he has been let down by key people around him, and finds some people that can put it right. I just hope that whatever league we are in next year, I am watching a Huddersfield team that I can identify with, that has players who respect the shirt, look like they’ve been coached and can actually pass the ball. He looked great when he first came back but now he's being played out of position he just looks like the rest of them |
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Post by turbo2 on Apr 21, 2024 12:57:34 GMT 1
We don’t have one. Convinced myself that a silver lining to relegation would be the chance - if KN can bankroll us and sustain heavy losses (!!!) - to clear the slate and start again. Now with the chat on other threads about contracts and the difficulty to get rid of players, I’m not even sure we can do that, can we? I would have happily seen Corberan off after that spanking at Norwich in the first season, but he knew what he was doing didn’t he? He coached the players into a way of playing - not everyone liked it - and improved them. He’s doing it again at WBA. Williamson is doing it at MK Dons. McKenna has done it at Ipswich. Martin did it at MK Dons, Swansea and now Saints. McCann presumably is doing it at Donny. How many of our players have got better recently? Spencer? And he was coached by the Motherwell staff! If KN is serious, he must, must, must find someone to hang his hat on and stick with. AB has been a disaster, DM was a disaster, NW was perfect for our squad but not a manager to build around long-term. Problem of course, is that our exec team have shown themselves to be completely ill equipped to make recruitment decisions of this nature. KN did not become a rich man by being an idiot. My only hope is that he can see what a disaster his tenure has been so far, realises he has been let down by key people around him, and finds some people that can put it right. I just hope that whatever league we are in next year, I am watching a Huddersfield team that I can identify with, that has players who respect the shirt, look like they’ve been coached and can actually pass the ball. He looked great when he first came back but now he's being played out of position he just looks like the rest of them I shouldn’t be blaming the manager as he’s just another in a long line that can’t get a tune out of this lot. But I’ve said so many times, put your best players in their correct position and then fill in around them. We simply continue to put square pegs in round holes. And get a fucking striker on the pitch |
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 21, 2024 12:58:02 GMT 1
We don’t have one. Convinced myself that a silver lining to relegation would be the chance - if KN can bankroll us and sustain heavy losses (!!!) - to clear the slate and start again. Now with the chat on other threads about contracts and the difficulty to get rid of players, I’m not even sure we can do that, can we? I would have happily seen Corberan off after that spanking at Norwich in the first season, but he knew what he was doing didn’t he? He coached the players into a way of playing - not everyone liked it - and improved them. He’s doing it again at WBA. Williamson is doing it at MK Dons. McKenna has done it at Ipswich. Martin did it at MK Dons, Swansea and now Saints. McCann presumably is doing it at Donny. How many of our players have got better recently? Spencer? And he was coached by the Motherwell staff! If KN is serious, he must, must, must find someone to hang his hat on and stick with. AB has been a disaster, DM was a disaster, NW was perfect for our squad but not a manager to build around long-term. Problem of course, is that our exec team have shown themselves to be completely ill equipped to make recruitment decisions of this nature. KN did not become a rich man by being an idiot. My only hope is that he can see what a disaster his tenure has been so far, realises he has been let down by key people around him, and finds some people that can put it right. I just hope that whatever league we are in next year, I am watching a Huddersfield team that I can identify with, that has players who respect the shirt, look like they’ve been coached and can actually pass the ball. He looked great when he first came back but now he's being played out of position he just looks like the rest of them I can see why he is being played out of position though. We don’t have a remotely championship standard left back at the club. And our best bet of scoring is a set piece so the more centre backs on the pitch ie Pearson the better. |
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Post by dezzly on Apr 21, 2024 13:24:28 GMT 1
AB wants to play a high press I’d like that too but we don’t have the players capable - definitely not mentally, some not physically Yesterdays instruction was supposedly to play a high press from the front 4 in the final 3rd - if that’s what he told the players only Rudoni did that imo. Koroma sometimes, Burgzorg trotted around and Thomas either did it well or didn’t even bother trying. The midfield two were then so far behind. You press as a unit not in 1 or 2 or don’t press at all He alluded to that in his interview after also.Saying there were two groups,ones that did what they were meant to and others Thad didn’t and then stating that when this is the case it will never work. Get the feeling that some of the players aren’t having AB and some are.Seems to be a running theme with this squad regardless of manager.Obviously I’m guessing here but it seems a fair few don’t want to play to a game plan or as a team and just want to do whatever they feel like doing,some weeks they will perform cos they fancy it and others they won’t. The obvious plan he set out yesterday was to try press them and nick the ball high and then if they beat the press to drop into shape make it difficult and play on the break with the pacey front men.Problem being if half can’t be arsed with the press then you just end up having even less of the ball,making it easy for them to get out and just been camped in your own half. Iv said a few times now but if he wants to stay I’d keep AB but we have to get rid of those who aren’t team players and get in the types of players he wants. If he goes iv no clue where we look to. |
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 21, 2024 13:27:07 GMT 1
AB wants to play a high press I’d like that too but we don’t have the players capable - definitely not mentally, some not physically Yesterdays instruction was supposedly to play a high press from the front 4 in the final 3rd - if that’s what he told the players only Rudoni did that imo. Koroma sometimes, Burgzorg trotted around and Thomas either did it well or didn’t even bother trying. The midfield two were then so far behind. You press as a unit not in 1 or 2 or don’t press at all You see a lot of the players looking round at each other wondering why the other isn't doing what they think they should be. For a simpleton that just looks to me like they haven't been coached effectively and messages aren't getting across for whatever reason. Head coaches fault, his assistants, the players or all of the above? The only system these players have been able to play effectively is sit deep and when we get the ball launch it over the opposition defence to chase, and try to play in their half. If we lose the ball we retreat to half way and press when they come into our half. We did this well for a month under Warnock. He realised that the players are VERY limited and stripped the game back to basics so they were able to follow it. We then weakened the squad in the summer and made the inexplicable decision to remove Warnock after 7 games. The powers that be lacked football understanding, which is why Cartwright and Edwards should be given the boot, because most of us on here could see that what Warnock was doing was exceptional, but not sustainable long term. We needed better players, but we didn’t get any. What we need is a complete overhaul top to bottom. We need everything lined up and everyone singing from the same hymn sheet. We need a director of football in place with a clear vision and values for the team, a manager who aligns with that, and a recruitment team that is able to recruit players to suit the football we want to play. It shouldn’t be difficult and they need to get on with it now. |
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