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Post by 882119728 on Oct 19, 2008 20:39:19 GMT 1
Peter Taylor at Wycombe, Martin Allen at Cheltenham Town, Danny Wilson at Hartlepool - These are the blokes we should be chasing to take up the challenge. So sad when u consider 18000 season ticket sales, centenary and all that.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Oct 19, 2008 20:45:33 GMT 1
BOLLOCKS
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Post by honleyterrier on Oct 19, 2008 20:50:00 GMT 1
shut up.................
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Post by 882119728 on Oct 19, 2008 20:52:06 GMT 1
they ve got a hell of a lot more about them than this loser!
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Post by htfc4lyfe85 on Oct 19, 2008 20:56:16 GMT 1
oh f off. just you wait and see
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Post by honleyterrier on Oct 19, 2008 20:56:22 GMT 1
Peter Taylor at Wycombe, Martin Allen at Cheltenham Town, Danny Wilson at Hartlepool - These are the blokes we should be chasing to take up the challenge. So sad when u consider 18000 season ticket sales, centenary and all that. well you go follow one of them then.... im sick off the negative ppl on here, give the guy + the players a pissing chance... UTT
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Post by 882119728 on Oct 19, 2008 21:02:28 GMT 1
...obviously you are incapable of holding a sensible argument so just hurl abuse! Look at the facts - we are a quarter of the way into the season and are WAY off the pace. We could have been getting 20000plus crowds but THOUSANDS each week dont show. We have won ONCE at home all year. We have a dis-jointed team who dont seem to be playing for each other. Before too long we will be clasping a long shot dream of a play off place. For what its worth, in my humble opinion, having watched Town since 1977 - he aint for us
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Post by boothylegend on Oct 19, 2008 21:03:11 GMT 1
I think you deserve a proper response, although I don't agree with what you say. I think Ternent needs to be given more time; although I too wish that he'd be much more positive in his approach; if we'd have attacked yesterday, we'd have won.
As for those that you named; Peter Taylor has failed in his last 2 jobs, although maybe he'd do better with greater resources?
Martin Allen is a pretty much identical manager to Stan; in that he's more of an aggressive manager, although again with greater resources than he had at Brentford he may be able to build an aggressive yet skillful side.
Danny Wilson; I was working out in the same gym as him only a few weeks ago, so it'd be a bit of a shock to see him managing Town. I think he's the least inspiring of your suggestions, and given the amount of time fans are willing to give new managers, he'd have a very short settling in period.
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Post by 190119 on Oct 19, 2008 21:17:33 GMT 1
...obviously you are incapable of holding a sensible argument so just hurl abuse! Look at the facts - we are a quarter of the way into the season and are WAY off the pace. We could have been getting 20000plus crowds but THOUSANDS each week dont show. We have won ONCE at home all year. We have a dis-jointed team who dont seem to be playing for each other. Before too long we will be clasping a long shot dream of a play off place. For what its worth, in my humble opinion, having watched Town since 1977 - he aint for us FWIW I think he has to be given time to sort it. I think Dean Hoyle will give him enough rope and then if we are still gash he will get rid, Stan is a very poor ambassador for the club with his post match comments. If it was my business and my money he would be gone tomorrow.
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Post by terracesider on Oct 19, 2008 21:56:13 GMT 1
I'm in agreement with your comment - in most businesses he wouldn't have lasted this long - his P.R. alone in such a high profile public job would have seen him on his way.. But Mr Hoyle & Mr.Davy are no doubt well versed in the matter of surgery (they didn't get to be zillionaires by being nice guys now did they?) so we have to trust them to know when the time for change is right. But then football is different from real life ain't it? UTT
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 20, 2008 0:58:55 GMT 1
Interesting point about him being a poor ambassador for the club. I was watching Football League review on sky the other day and it crossed my mind whether we'd ever have ternent on there, or ITVs soccernight thing for Yorkshire clubs. Not a chance. They wouldn't ask and he wouldn't do it if they did. Don't think his dour, condesending mutterings would come across well if you could actually see him aswell. Its not a vital part of a managers job of course but compare him to McCall who unsurprisingly gets asked to do a lot of tv work, promoting the chickens everytime he does. Hes young, lively, funny,humble and honest. He comes over very well and through him, so do his club.
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Post by blueb on Oct 20, 2008 1:12:41 GMT 1
Interesting point about him being a poor ambassador for the club. I was watching Football League review on sky the other day and it crossed my mind whether we'd ever have ternent on there, or ITVs soccernight thing for Yorkshire clubs. Not a chance. They wouldn't ask and he wouldn't do it if they did. Don't think his dour, condesending mutterings would come across well if you could actually see him aswell. Its not a vital part of a managers job of course but compare him to McCall who unsurprisingly gets asked to do a lot of tv work, promoting the chickens everytime he does. Hes young, lively, funny,humble and honest. He comes over very well and through him, so do his club. Personally i don't really give a cr@p about how he comes accross in the media, likewise i don't judge a manager on whether i like them as a person which a lot seem to. Actually I don't think he's done much wrong in the media, blaming the players was certainly an unorthadox approach but i'm not convinced it was wrong. Maybe I missed something else ?
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 20, 2008 1:27:37 GMT 1
I wouldn't describe that post match press conference as unorthodox. Think 'cowardly' is a better word for it. Don't you, as a fan, want to hear your managers thoughts on a game, especially one where we were utter crap? Why he thinks we were crap. Why he changed this position or that position. What he intends to do to improve it. Does he see any positives etc etc I know I do. To simply walk into the room of journalists, put ALL the blame on the players, say none of it was his fault, then storm off again refusing to answer any questions was the act of a coward, and a deluded one too if he genuinely didn't think he shared any of the blame for it, and worst of all showed a complete disregard for the supporters of the club ( not for the only time after his lie about the team he would play at darlo).
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Post by blueb on Oct 20, 2008 2:08:59 GMT 1
I wouldn't describe that post match press conference as unorthodox. Think 'cowardly' is a better word for it. Don't you, as a fan, want to hear your managers thoughts on a game, especially one where we were utter crap? Why he thinks we were crap. Why he changed this position or that position. What he intends to do to improve it. Does he see any positives etc etc I know I do. To simply walk into the room of journalists, put ALL the blame on the players, say none of it was his fault, then storm off again refusing to answer any questions was the act of a coward, and a deluded one too if he genuinely didn't think he shared any of the blame for it, and worst of all showed a complete disregard for the supporters of the club ( not for the only time after his lie about the team he would play at darlo). I disagree, I found it mildly amusing and was also convinced by his demeanor that he was seriously hurt/peed off/angry etc and that the players were going to get a good shoeing which is a welcome change from Ritchies apathetic lovey dovey approach IMO. If it ocurred every week it would be unacceptable but as a one off I didn't have a problem with it at all.
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Post by nshackle on Oct 20, 2008 7:18:34 GMT 1
[ I disagree, I found it mildly amusing and was also convinced by his demeanor that he was seriously hurt/peed off/angry etc and that the players were going to get a good shoeing which is a welcome change from Ritchies apathetic lovey dovey approach IMO. If it ocurred every week it would be unacceptable but as a one off I didn't have a problem with it at all. I have to agree here. Ritchie was on Sky's Big league Weekend on Friday and was stating how he 'liked to send his teams out to entertain...'. I went to every home game last season, and other than the Birmingham game can barely recall an entertaining game during his tenure. Yet this is the type of response the media love to hear whether true or not. I think Ternent 'plays' the media to a certain extent which frustrates them. The answers he often provides, I suspect are not always what he truly thinks.
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Post by welshmatt on Oct 20, 2008 9:12:29 GMT 1
Hmmm, I can see that this thread as per usual has a lot of opinions. As a relatively new fan and somebody who has followed the scene around the leagues for many years, Stan T is well known as being one of the most hated lower league managers around, ok, so that isn't anything to judge him on now, but he is also well known for playing long ball.
I have just read his usual excuses from Saturdays game vs Bristol R (who were by far the better team on the day) and he himself laughingly said that maybe the lads should have played more long ball for the last 10 - 15 minutes, hang on, isn't that what I have witnessed every game so far anyway, how much more long ball can you play. Keep the blasted ball on the ground.
Is he for Huddersfield Town, probably not, but where do we go next. I agree, a quarter of the season and it is like watching paint dry. One Dicko returns to Derby, what options are open to a long ball manager then?
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Post by Floyds on Oct 20, 2008 9:18:29 GMT 1
im not bothered how he comes across - but if he is not winning games - and we are near the bottom of the table - his post match comments will not help his cause, either to the fans or to DH.
he can be as rude/ignorant as he likes if we are top of the league, unfortunately for him, and for us, we are 16th instead...
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Post by wonderousworthy on Oct 20, 2008 9:42:15 GMT 1
Peter Taylor at Wycombe, Martin Allen at Cheltenham Town, Danny Wilson at Hartlepool - These are the blokes we should be chasing to take up the challenge. So sad when u consider 18000 season ticket sales, centenary and all that. ARE YOU SAIN Martin Alen has achieved nothing compared to most managers and as for Danny Wilson I'd rather give the job to John Dungheap! Peter Taylor maybe but why are you even talking of replacing Stan AFTER WE DREW A GAME. After 3/4 defeats on the trot talk about it but not after 2 games unbeaten! Fickle fan alert!
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Post by Sheps on Oct 20, 2008 11:24:55 GMT 1
Did we even sell 18,000 season tickets
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Oct 20, 2008 13:20:33 GMT 1
Did we even sell 18,000 season tickets No.
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Post by marshian on Oct 20, 2008 13:33:04 GMT 1
Naive fan alert more like.
ONE HOME WIN this season and that against a very poor Northampton, and someone is happy with a draw against a team only a few places above us who came for a draw. Bristol Rovers were pretty stupid for not realising how easy we would be to beat.
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Post by anderlechtterrier on Oct 20, 2008 13:46:06 GMT 1
oh f off. just you wait and see Didnt you proudly announce that you were to be a father only the other day?? I hope the mother of your child isnt subject to being told to "F OFF" if you dont agree with her opinion. Swearing is one thing, partial to the odd bit of factory floor language myself. Directing it squarely at a woman is another thing.
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Post by blueb on Oct 20, 2008 15:51:11 GMT 1
oh f off. just you wait and see Didnt you proudly announce that you were to be a father only the other day?? I hope the mother of your child isnt subject to being told to "F OFF" if you dont agree with her opinion. Swearing is one thing, partial to the odd bit of factory floor language myself. Directing it squarely at a woman is another thing. Of FFS, is nowhere sacred ? Do we have to study avatars on message boards these days to make sure we don't accidentally say F off to a lady in cyberspace !?!?! That would never do would it ;D Sh1t happens, it's not a crime and doesn't make him a wife beater - Get over it ! It's a message board !
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Post by htfc4lyfe85 on Oct 20, 2008 16:07:10 GMT 1
thanks blue b. its not like i am going to ever met her don't want to but the point is it is a message board, my emotions were running high. but if i say f off to another man would you complain, we should treat women equally as millions of people keep saying.
and just cos i made a post you cannot judge what type of person who i am.
you don't know me and i wouldn't want to get to know you
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Post by styrene45 on Oct 20, 2008 17:36:06 GMT 1
Peter Taylor?? lol Martin F*ckin Allen LOL!!!! More please, you're killing me! Sorry young'un but, well, to put it quite simply, you're talking bollox. Still, with your homework done you can jump back on your keyboard and slag off your beloved team's manager for gaining a point at the weekend. Nice one.
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Post by anderlechtterrier on Oct 20, 2008 18:27:55 GMT 1
Peter Taylor?? lol Martin F*ckin Allen LOL!!!! More please, you're killing me! Sorry young'un but, well, to put it quite simply, you're talking bollox. Still, with your homework done you can jump back on your keyboard and slag off your beloved team's manager for gaining a point at the weekend. Nice one. She's older than you.
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Post by anderlechtterrier on Oct 20, 2008 18:37:30 GMT 1
Of FFS, is nowhere sacred ? Do we have to study avatars on message boards these days to make sure we don't accidentally say F off to a lady in cyberspace !?!?! That would never do would it ;D Sh1t happens, it's not a crime and doesn't make him a wife beater - Get over it ! It's a message board ! Thats right its a message board that men, women, children of all ages frequent and whilst i am no angel and will argue and fight and swear with the best of them, hell im not averse to telling a female to shut her cakehole when the mood takes me but you dont have to be einstien to glance to the left of someones post to ascertain thier gender if theyve published it and she in this instance has. There are still some levels of decorum left and effing and jeffing at a female aint on.
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Post by anderlechtterrier on Oct 20, 2008 18:41:53 GMT 1
thanks blue b. its not like i am going to ever met her don't want to but the point is it is a message board, my emotions were running high. but if i say f off to another man would you complain, we should treat women equally as millions of people keep saying. and just cos i made a post you cannot judge what type of person who i am. you don't know me and i wouldn't want to get to know you The feeling is mutual and if you choose to say F off to a man then thats your perogative and you accept the ramifications that come with that. The chances are a female probably wont threaten to put your teeth down your throat. Incidentally, your post speaks volumes about you Einstein.
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Post by 882119728 on Oct 20, 2008 18:47:41 GMT 1
Actually, Im a bloke!!! Cant think why I set my self up as a woman! hahaha. Ooops Anyway, feel free to abuse me whatever my gender cos I really dont give a shiiite!!!
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Post by anderlechtterrier on Oct 20, 2008 18:56:19 GMT 1
Actually, Im a bloke!!! Cant think why I set my self up as a woman! hahaha. Ooops Anyway, feel free to abuse me whatever my gender cos I really dont give a shiiite!!! Hahaha....Quality.. Fruedian Slip.
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