Stan not the Man

[doniskebab7]

I've always been a bit of a silent vouyer on this messageboard, but I can't believe the tripe I've been reading of late. People come on here and express their opinion only to be shot down in flames by a swarm of cyber geeks.

I for one believed from the start that Stan was the wrong choice. I can accept that a new manager always needs time, but should this really be the case with Mr Ternant?

If a decent, non-arrogant manager had come into the club he would have watched the last 5 games last season taken the many possitives from that and brought in players to complement and develop that nucleus of players.

Mr Ternant has come in and dessamated a squad that had a hell of a lot of potential. Now I look on with envy at the likes of Graham Kavenner going to the likes of Carlisle while I watch my team full of miss fits and journeymen struggling at the wrong end of the table.

Ternant has doubled the wage bill and fed his ego. Now I hear his post match press conferences confirming his arrogance and turning on the fans. OK, I might expect be expecting Champagne football at Beer money prices. In reality we have paid Pub prices for a pint of Carling and recieved a can SKOL.

Last weekend we were outplayed by a 3rd rate team and only managed 2 shots on goal in a home match. If you look at Bristols defesive record it is one of the worst in the league..........these are facts and I believe it's unacceptable.

So you call me a pesamist, give me a negative vote or throw a burning tyre around my neck. I'm not a Stan fan and would ship him out before it's too late...........in my 20 year experience as a Town fan I would liken this team to that of Wadsworth and we all knoe what happened there.

[monkey]

Oct 20, 2008 19:28:02 GMT 1 doniskebab7 said:

Now I look on with envy at the likes of Graham Kavanagh going to the likes of Carlisle while I watch my team full of miss fits and journeymen struggling at the wrong end of the table.

Is that meant to be ironic?

[ksne]

I`m so in agreement that I`ve given you a positive.

[Deleted]

This post unlike others that have maybe been torn to shreds though is well written and portrays a point of view unlike others who don't so often substantiate a point.

A new manager does need time and yes it'll be the same with Stan. If we're still the same by around February with no signs of CONSISTENT improvement then I'll prob join the anti Stan brigade - but until then I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[ksne]

So if we continue in this vein until around Febuary and possibly facing relegation won`t you then feel that we should have got rid of him sooner?

I`m finding it hard to come to terms with the rubbish I`ve seen so far from ST and his signings.Please please someone reassure me that this is not going to go on for much longer.

[jonnyhtfc90]

People seem to think that after two poor seasons, a new start means that everything's suddenly going to fall into place. It isn't. Judge Stan on where he guides us to by the end of the season.

Patience, people!

[ksne]

Patience is runnig out fast.

[Tez]

I think we'll end up mid-table this season. (I WANT to be proved wrong...naturally. But I just can't see it happening for us this season.)

If Deano aint lost his patience with Stan by next pre-season when he takes over the reins from Uncle Ken, I can see us having a reet go next season.

[pling]

February will be too late, if we're still where we're at now, but I can't see us picking up mutch points in the next 5-6 matches so it might not be long before something has to be done. And can you please sack Andrew Watson when you take over in the summer, Deano? Not that he reads this....

[Nickhudds.UTT]

can see your frustration but stan has signed a few decent players, flynn and scoring a few, craney potentially looks good, roberts is decent, Butler is a decent defender, I like goodwin and he can play in several positions.

as for Parker imo he is not for us , because ; in my opinion his attitude is poor, seems to be very cocky and arrogant outside of Town, doesnt look interested. Stan had similar problems at Burnley but he eventually got them promotion and a very good side. No one is perfect and I agree he has many faults but he should be given at least this season. I trust Deano to make any decisions. TTID

[Deleted]

Oct 20, 2008 19:39:39 GMT 1 @ksne said:

So if we continue in this vein until around Febuary and possibly facing relegation won`t you then feel that we should have got rid of him sooner?

If we continue playing as we have in the last 5 games we'll climb the table, Saturday was poor, but the previous performances have been good. I was seriously questionning Stan after Tranmere, but since then I've seen enough to show me that he'll get it right. One bad game isn't going to change that view.

The trouble is the worst performances have come at home, so a lot of fans haven't seen what some of these new signings are capable of.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

exactly, Ive seen us play well in several away matches, inparticular at oldham.

[Deleted]

I'd be interested to know how many away matches some of the Ternent knockers have been too.

This is absolutely not meant at a dig at anyone who hasn't been to many away matches, but I do think people who have seen us play at Oldham and at Swindon, will probably be willing to give Stan a bit more time than those who haven't.

['Uddersfield]

How has Stan suddenly turned on the fans when all he has done is compliment them on their support and say we deserve better?
We need stability, all we've done recently is sack managers and feeding into the short termist nature of football these days, that critics and experts are writing about and from a neutrals perspective, whenever you see it happen at another club you laugh.
He's had about 10 games. We're visibily improving. Give him a chance. I don't care if I'm proved wrong, and I am a diehard fan, but in situations like this you need perspective or else it gets embarrassing.

And I'm glad Dean Hoyle has his head screwed on with what he has said, because if he gets sacked it would just mean Hoyle is getting far too emotionally attatched and going with his heart rather than his head.

[htfc]

nickhudd how can you say parker is not rite for us and his attitude is poor??

he aint had a chance yet

we all know how quick he is andhow skillfull he can be,

[mickydombat]

Ternent is turgid full stop.

[monkey]

Doncaster didn't sack their manager this time last season.

They had 1 more point than we have now after the same number of games, after destroying town at the Keepmoat.

Look where they are now.... and no, you can't use that shoestring budget crap, because they bought Hayter among others.

[Tez]

The analogy with Hull and Phil Brown has been overused the last few weeks after their cracking start to the Prem season. THIRD.. sensational!

But they stuck with their man when they were 18th in the Championship this stage last year.

Anyone else remember our 3-1 and 4-0 drubbings of Hull in 03/04 and 04/05 or just me?! ;D

[thrice]

We have lost one game out of our last five in the league, and that game was lost with a disputed 90th minute goal against the league leaders. Get a grip folks. If you cannot see signs of improvement and reasons to be positive then you simply don't want to.

[morrisraspass]

Oct 20, 2008 19:28:02 GMT 1 doniskebab7 said:

Now I hear his post match press conferences confirming his arrogance and turning on the fans.

I don't understand where some people are getting this 'turning on the fans' stuff from, unless I'm listening to some post-match comments from a parallel universe.

He seems to be saying that in the main the fans have been tremendous but he can understand that a few of them are getting frustrated, and he's asking people to see that we are improving, it will take time, and you're entitled to your point of view, but stick with us. What exactly is so wrong with that?

[sunflower]

It's easy to forget the state we were in last March, with a manager who leaned on the dug out for the entire match and loads of players who were just going through the motions. The club needed a massive shake up!

It's just a reflection of the modern football fan really, some just can't grasp the need for stability in a club, Ternent's way is to rip a club to the bones and build it back up "his way", and that does not happen overnight.

It's a shame there's been so much hype before a ball was even kicked, and some fans have so little patience. I'd think the real moaners are the ones who have returned with the £100 tickets (those who steadily went awol since 2000!) I don't blame them for not going cos it has been crap the last few years but if they thought this was an instant fix to a sick club they are in cloud cuckoo land!

We've got a new chairman/owner and a new manager and are going in the right direction, painfully slow i agree, but a certain section of the support are not helping at the moment and personally i'd rather they didn't bother going. At least the next 2 games are away when the real fans will be there to support our team!

[marshian]

Oh not the 'only the real fans go away' argument again. Yawn yawn yawn

[Dell12]

I'm not too sure about 'this shot down in flames' attitude. This is a message board where people discuss ideas. If we all the had the same view it would be pritty dull.

[CaptainHart]

Oct 20, 2008 21:03:47 GMT 1 Tez said:

The analogy with Hull and Phil Brown has been overused the last few weeks after their cracking start to the Prem season. THIRD.. sensational!

But they stuck with their man when they were 18th in the Championship this stage last year.

Anyone else remember our 3-1 and 4-0 drubbings of Hull in 03/04 and 04/05 or just me?! ;D

And how long did Phil Brown's under-achieving predecessor get?