Midfielder statistics

[specialun]

You wanted stats, so here they are ;D You've been warned!

1) On the pitch v off the pitch
2) Points per game when started (in period on pitch)
On the pitch:
(i) Start record: Record when start whilst on the pitch i.e. if taken off after 65 mins, score in those 65 mins.
(ii) On as a sib: Score in that period on as a sub

Off the pitch:
(i) Does not start - Record when off the pitch due to not starting - i.e, does not come on at all, or, if come on after eg) 70 mins, score at 70 mins
(ii) Taken off - score in period after taken off e.g. 1-1 at 70 mins and taken off, if we lose 2-1, score for period is 1-0 loss.

Goodwin:
On pitch
- Start: P15, W4, D5, L6 'PTS' = 17
- On as sub: P2, W1, D0, L1 'PTS' = 3
TOTAL: P17, W5, D5, L7 : PTS = 20 (1.18/game)

Off pitch
- Not start: P7, W3, D1, L3 'PTS': 10
- Taken off: P3, W0, D3, L0 'PTS': 3
TOTAL: P10, W3, D4, L3 : PTS = 13 (1.3/game)

Collins:
On pitch
- Start: P8, W3, D1, L4 'PTS' = 10
- On as sub: P3, W0, D2, L1 'PTS' = 2
TOTAL: P11, W3, D3, L5 : PTS = 12 (1.09/game)

Off pitch
- Not start: P14, W4, D5, L5 'PTS': 17
- Taken off: 0
TOTAL: P14, W4, D5, L5 : PTS = 17 (1.21/game)

Craney:
On pitch
- Start: P17, W5, D5, L7 'PTS' = 20
- On as sub: 0
TOTAL: P17, W5, D5, L7 : PTS = 20 (1.18/game)

Off pitch
- Not start: P5, W1, D2, L2 'PTS': 5
- Taken off: P5, W1, D3, L1 'PTS': 6
TOTAL: P10, W2, D5, L3 : PTS = 11 (1.1/game)

Flynn:
On pitch
- Start: P17, W4, D6, L7 'PTS' = 18
- On as sub: P0
TOTAL: P17, W4, D6, L7 : PTS = 18 (1.06/game)

Off pitch
- Not start: P5, W2, D0, L3 'PTS': 6
- Taken off: P3, W1, D2, L0 'PTS': 5
TOTAL: P8, W3, D2, L3 : PTS = 11 (1.38/game)

Worthington:
On pitch
- Start: P14, W5, D7, L2 'PTS' = 22
- On as sub: P6, W1, D5, L0 'PTS' = 8
TOTAL: P20, W6, D12, L2 : PTS = 30 (1.50/game)

Off pitch
- Not start: P8, W1, D2, L5 'PTS': 5
- Taken off: P7, W1, D2, L4 'PTS': 5
TOTAL: P15, W2 D4, L9 : PTS = 10 (0.67/game)

Granted, its a lot of numbers ;D- but its the results which matter at the end of the day not how many goals x scores, or tackles y makes, or runs z makes etc. Its the team which matters -

What does it show? Granted it doesn't take account of the formation, payer position (eg -goodwin some games`at rb, flynn some out wide etc), but its pretty conclusive:

i) Points in period on pitch when start:
1 = Worthington 1.57
2 = Collins 1.25
3 = Craney 1.18
4 = Goodwin 1.13
5 = Flynn 1.06

(ii) Ratio: ''Points'' per game on pitch divided by ''points'' per game when not on pitch - i.e. )On pitch points per game = 2, off pitch points per game = 1.....ratio= 2/1 = 2. i.e. Anything above 1 indicates positive influence on the team's results against standard.
1 = Worthington 2.25
2 = Craney 1.07
3 = Goodwin 0.91
4 = Collins 0.90
5 = Flynn 0.77

(iii) Percentage of games won in period on pitch per start
1 = Collins 37.5%
2 = Worthington 35.7%
3 = Craney 29.1%
4 = Goodwin 26.7%
5 = Flynn 23.5%

(iv) Percentage of games unbeaten when started
1 = Worthington 85.7%
2 = Goodwin 60%
3 = Craney and Flynn 58.8%
5 = Collins = 50%

Overall - Best midfielder for results (In above, 1st=5 points...5th = 1 point)
1 = Worthington 19 points
2 = Craney 13 points
3 = Collins 12 points
4 = Goodwin 11 points
5 = Flynn 5 points
So maybe that's why we let flynn go and worthy deserves to start! ?

[BlackLive]

You think Deano or the GMs did all that calculations before the loan move too?

THOSE*
really need to read my posts first...

[Tez]

Good work man. Got headache now?

[Nickhudds.UTT]

;D ;D ;D ;D speechless, you deserve a medal !!

[specialun]

Dec 1, 2008 22:57:53 GMT 1 Nickhudds.UTT said:

;D ;D ;D ;D speechless, you deserve a medal !!

I need a drink ;D

[thrice]

Good stuff thanks a lot.

Compelling reading but I'm afraid I'm still not won over.

You need to get out more ;D.

[sunflower]

Dec 1, 2008 22:59:14 GMT 1 specialun said:

Dec 1, 2008 22:57:53 GMT 1 Nickhudds.UTT said:

;D ;D ;D ;D speechless, you deserve a medal !!

I need a drink ;D

and a life.

[specialun]

Dec 1, 2008 23:05:13 GMT 1 thrice said:

Good stuff thanks a lot.

Compelling reading but I'm afraid I'm still not won over.

You need to get out more ;D.

You're telling me - don't ask for anymore

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Look , lets just accept we are shit without worthy in the side, he has the midas touch ( uses cream for it ! ) , he has GOT TO START , or we are all doomed !!

[thrice]

I see we are unbeaten when he comes off the bench.

We should stick him on at the death to kill time; I'll give you that!

[andyhudd]

Now you need to look at combinations ...

Report back tomorrow ...

Good work there. Interesting.

Worthy does seem well worth a start, going on the stats in here, and in the other Worthington stats thread.

[TomTheTerrier]

Interesting enough stuff but you can never really look just at stats without the context.

For instance, Worthy and Collins haven't been played out of position this season, while Goodwin and Flynn for the majority have. You'd need to look at the results with those players in the correct position to get a proper picture. Also Collins has far less games than any of the others, so his stats are more emphasised in those games, when Stan left and we picked up a few points.

I'm just not convinced, stats look convincing on the page, but i've been in the stand for nearly every game, and they don't reflect what i've seen at all. And it wasn't selective viewing, I don't have anything against these players.

[thrice]

Dec 1, 2008 23:23:16 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Interesting enough stuff but you can never really look just at stats without the context.

For instance, Worthy and Collins haven't been played out of position this season, while Goodwin and Flynn for the majority have. You'd need to look at the results with those players in the correct position to get a proper picture. Also Collins has far less games than any of the others, so his stats are more emphasised in those games, when Stan left and we picked up a few points.

I'm just not convinced, stats look convincing on the page, but i've been in the stand for nearly every game, and they don't reflect what i've seen at all. And it wasn't selective viewing, I don't have anything against these players.

mmm mmm. Yeah I think you should develop some form of Duckworth-Lewis formula to be applied Specialun. If a jobs worth doing its worth doing properly .

[specialun]

Dec 1, 2008 23:23:16 GMT 1 TomTheTerrier said:

Interesting enough stuff but you can never really look just at stats without the context.

For instance, Worthy and Collins haven't been played out of position this season, while Goodwin and Flynn for the majority have. You'd need to look at the results with those players in the correct position to get a proper picture. Also Collins has far less games than any of the others, so his stats are more emphasised in those games, when Stan left and we picked up a few points.

I'm just not convinced, stats look convincing on the page, but i've been in the stand for nearly every game, and they don't reflect what i've seen at all. And it wasn't selective viewing, I don't have anything against these players.

I agree with the goodwin, flynn points, and it doesn't look at fornations, combinations etc.

But that aside, goodwin has started 15, craney 17, flynn 17 and worthy 14 so its a pretty decent marker, far from perfect, but a decent marker.

The goodwin point applies more to comparing collins, craney, goodwin where results seem pretty similar (thus far). Its the striking comparison between flynn and worthy which is surprising and perhaps a telling point when standing back.

[bigfatmonkey]

good stats but i think slightly distorted due to the number of games goodwin played at full back where looked shockingly lost. interesting reading all the same, i think it's clear from watching (leyton orient aside) that town as a team look considerably more comfortable with worthy on the pitch and these stats seem to back that up