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Post by malcolmbrown on Jan 3, 2009 18:20:00 GMT 1
I know this is obvious but we're not going to reach the play offs without one.
Fair play to the players today for fighting back against a solid if unspectacular Oldham side.
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Post by pompeyterrier on Jan 3, 2009 19:08:26 GMT 1
Your right, it is obvious  We've got Boothy coming back by the sounds of it so hopefully he can provide the back-up for this guy when he eventually comes, but the BIG question is who we gonna get? |
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Post by reinwoodboy on Jan 3, 2009 19:44:02 GMT 1
It's so obvious to everyone we need a big lad who is gonna put himself about and score 20 goals a season. The Bristol Rovers striker Lambert would be ideal. We would be so much better with a good olod fashoined striker who can win high balls, has pace and can score 20+ goals. If only Boothy could return as the bionic man? But sadly he is past it now... sigh.
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Post by thrice on Jan 3, 2009 19:48:24 GMT 1
If the two teams had of switched strikers today I'm sure we would have won by a country mile. Hughes & Byfield did not give our defence a moments peace all game and contested every ball in contrast to Jevons & Parker at the other end. You do not have to be big to compete though just look at Cads.
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Post by htfc7 on Jan 3, 2009 19:51:25 GMT 1
byfield is on loan and he would be a good buy for us. he played really well today
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Post by HD8 Blue & White on Jan 4, 2009 9:07:15 GMT 1
IMO niether Parker or Jevons are quite good enough to get us where we need to be, simple as that really.
We had enough possesion and put enough quality balls into the box to have battered one of the best teams in L1 yesterday, but the simple truth is that we just didnt work thier keeper nearly enough.
Goals win games! Strikers should be judged on scoring goals, not fancy little flicks and bits of link up play 50 yds from the goals or headless chicken dasshes down the wing.
2 propper strikers soon as please Lee
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 4, 2009 9:20:48 GMT 1
after a good sleep we need 2 strikers and get rib of jevons.
id bring in a big man and leon best, as someone mentioned lambert would be good but he would cost us.
i think this cody mcdonald is big of a big physical presence with pace but is he ready for the step up?
either or id be looking to bring two strikers in now before end of the month to leave us with 2 new ones, boothy and parker.
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Post by andyhudd on Jan 4, 2009 10:30:03 GMT 1
We need some decent competition, and we probably can't count on Boothy to be totally fit between now and the end of the season.
I think we could do with 2 new strikers, as well as keeping hold of Jevons and Parker, but that might be wishful thinking!
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 4, 2009 10:54:25 GMT 1
But thanks to giving season tickets away, often to people who never use them, you are resigned to having to sell before you can buy, and realistically the only players that other clubs will want are those you don't want to lose. But who needs players when you have such a great management team. |
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Post by hughphamism on Jan 4, 2009 10:57:04 GMT 1
We made MORE money by selling seasonb tickets the way we did so your argument doesn't wash. Jealousy will get you nowhere!
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Post by CREDERE!!!!! on Jan 4, 2009 11:12:27 GMT 1
i think we need 2 strikers, rest of the squad except the left back position maybe ?? looks quite solid, we need a young version of boothy to get onto those quality crosses cads and roberts are putting into the area. sign 2 up asap.
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 4, 2009 11:17:53 GMT 1
We made MORE money by selling seasonb tickets the way we did so your argument doesn't wash. Jealousy will get you nowhere! Ok, let's do the maths... Last season how many season tickets did you sell, shall we say 8,000 at £300? = £2,400,000. This season, 16,000 at £100 = £1,600,000. Next season, back to 8,000 at £400? Leeds sold 12,000 at £500 = £6,000,000 plus at least 8,000 more paying an average of £27 a game, Bates is raking it in, just hope he gets his chequebook out. Anyway, don't want to get bogged down in figures, lies, damn lies and statistics and all that. |
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Post by terrierng on Jan 4, 2009 12:09:07 GMT 1
tickets wernt all a oner though mine was 125 and some were more,cant be arsed working it out but around 9k will be at an average of 150 i would say.
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Post by Dell12 on Jan 4, 2009 12:09:26 GMT 1
The average price last season was nowhere near £300, not with students, OAPs and free tickets for under 7's. I'd put it closer to £200. I take your point though, we still made less in the short term, although if we've gained fans in the long term the club will benefit.
Thats before you take in to account extra shirt/programme sales etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 12:12:08 GMT 1
byfield is on loan and he would be a good buy for us. he played really well today Byfield is shit,i thought we needed a goal scorer? He didn`t have a shot at goal all game,i didn`t see him beat Clarke or Butler once,thats why they took him off. So lets sign another Parker. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 12:15:37 GMT 1
But thanks to giving season tickets away, often to people who never use them, you are resigned to having to sell before you can buy, and realistically the only players that other clubs will want are those you don't want to lose. But who needs players when you have such a great management team. We are not short of a few bob when it comes to transfer fees, the problem is we have a wage structure in place which is already stretched as it is. That is why we have to sell and that doesnt mean our better players either because in most cases our better players are on less than our crap players  |
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Post by hughphamism on Jan 4, 2009 12:27:22 GMT 1
The breakeven point was either 12 or 14K-can't remember which & we sold 16300 in the end so we're definitely better off. That's before you take into account the additional revenue that generates (including 3 new shirts!).
Where this goes next season - who knows.
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Post by huddersviking on Jan 4, 2009 12:33:11 GMT 1
parker would really look a much better player if he had a target man up front with him! as at moment when we do get ball up top hes asked to hold it up or beat the offside trap which is making him look 10 times worse than he is! byfeild would work awesome with parker!
saying that, i just want a striker that can hold it up and bring others in around him, we would look a much stringer attacker line up
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Post by runner76 on Jan 4, 2009 12:45:42 GMT 1
We need Boothy from 15 years ago, and Stead alongside him................ ;D ;D
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 4, 2009 13:02:41 GMT 1
The breakeven point was either 12 or 14K-can't remember which & we sold 16300 in the end so we're definitely better off. That's before you take into account the additional revenue that generates (including 3 new shirts!). Where this goes next season - who knows. Fair enough lads, you know better than me, I was just stirring it a bit. I wish my season ticket was £100, I'm still paying mine off with interest  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 13:17:42 GMT 1
byfield is on loan and he would be a good buy for us. he played really well today He was terrible yesterday not what we need at all. |
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Post by Tez on Jan 4, 2009 13:25:55 GMT 1
We just looked so blunt up front yesterday. Cads put in some cracking crosses but there was no-one to get on the end of 'em. I've got full faith that Clark and staff will find the right man we're after.
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Post by bluearmy86 on Jan 4, 2009 14:17:29 GMT 1
I thought our defence made Byfield and Hughes look very ordinary to be honest. Clarke just stepped out, collected the ball and set off on a dribble many times.
I think we need a goalscorer like Phillips (can't see him coming at all though), then somebody like Booth for when he isn't fit. who? i just don't know.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Jan 5, 2009 13:16:33 GMT 1
We made MORE money by selling seasonb tickets the way we did so your argument doesn't wash. Jealousy will get you nowhere! Ok, let's do the maths... Last season how many season tickets did you sell, shall we say 8,000 at £300? = £2,400,000. This season, 16,000 at £100 = £1,600,000. Next season, back to 8,000 at £400? Leeds sold 12,000 at £500 = £6,000,000 plus at least 8,000 more paying an average of £27 a game, Bates is raking it in, just hope he gets his chequebook out. Anyway, don't want to get bogged down in figures, lies, damn lies and statistics and all that. I don't think we need financial lessons from anyone that rips off The St John's Brigade |
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Post by bluemond on Jan 5, 2009 13:27:22 GMT 1
As quoted by me on the 20 Oct Dean Wideass
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Post by captainbeefheart on Jan 5, 2009 16:35:02 GMT 1
Ok, let's do the maths... Last season how many season tickets did you sell, shall we say 8,000 at £300? = £2,400,000. This season, 16,000 at £100 = £1,600,000. Next season, back to 8,000 at £400? Leeds sold 12,000 at £500 = £6,000,000 plus at least 8,000 more paying an average of £27 a game, Bates is raking it in, just hope he gets his chequebook out. Anyway, don't want to get bogged down in figures, lies, damn lies and statistics and all that. I don't think we need financial lessons from anyone that rips off The St John's Brigade So, you'd rather believe the word of a, let's face it, rather shady and untrustworthy first aid charitable institution than the word of our honest, sincere and beloved chairman?  By the way, some knuckle-dragging neanderthal Leeds fans saw to it that they got their money. |
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Post by rantinray on Jan 5, 2009 16:44:10 GMT 1
We have needed a competent forward for many seasons. We could also do with a mid-field ball winner and a competent centre half.
Are we going to get either? I hope so. As I have stated before the goal stats do not lie. Look at those stats for the last 3 to 4 seasons. Every year they show the same thing, we cannot score goals and we also ship goals.
If it came down to one player then I would opt for a goalscorer. The guy having some pace would be a bonus. In all fairness to Boothy he is not the fastest guy on planet football. He is about the best you can get in the air for his outstanding heading ability.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Jan 5, 2009 16:45:02 GMT 1
I don't think we need financial lessons from anyone that rips off The St John's Brigade So, you'd rather believe the word of a, let's face it, rather shady and untrustworthy first aid charitable institution than the word of our honest, sincere and beloved chairman? By the way, some knuckle-dragging neanderthal Leeds fans saw to it that they got their money. The £100 season ticket was a goodwill gesture from the club to the fans to celebrate our centenary year. I wouldn't hold your breath for a goodwill gesture from YOUR honest, sincere and beloved chairman ;D |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 5, 2009 18:20:14 GMT 1
The target figure was 13500 for this season but that wasn't a break even figure. It was how many we'd have to sell to match last seasons ST income.
Thanks to various things such as rent etc and the increased wage bill, the 'break even' figure must be a lot higher than we sold. Im sure someone mentioned 18500 at the time but that might be just my bad memory.
Either way, breaking even wasn't the point of the exercise and Hoyle will have budgeted for the losses the cheap STs caused, though as we sold about 3000 more than they expected those losses will be less than he thought they might have been.
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