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Post by C.H on Jan 3, 2009 21:39:07 GMT 1
sorry today i thought making a sub was wrong should have kept the same team till the end unless jevons was wanting to go off but caders was doing there right back all game but when craney came on it was just long balls all the time i aint slating the team or the manager cos they played well but we should have kept with pace down the right wing
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Post by specialun on Jan 3, 2009 21:41:22 GMT 1
Worth mixing it around imo. Don't shoot, you don't score.
Notb getting much from parker or jevons upfront and cadders was on form, worth the move when it was gettting stretched a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 21:50:37 GMT 1
Should have been Parker off not Jevons, at least Jevons stays central, with Parker and Cads, you're left with two players drifting wide and nothing through the middle
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 21:51:40 GMT 1
sorry today i thought making a sub was wrong should have kept the same team till the end unless jevons was wanting to go off but caders was doing there right back all game but when craney came on it was just long balls all the time i aint slating the team or the manager cos they played well but we should have kept with pace down the right wing I thought Cads was playing on the right wing? |
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Post by specialun on Jan 3, 2009 21:54:35 GMT 1
Should have been Parker off not Jevons, at least Jevons stays central, with Parker and Cads, you're left with two players drifting wide and nothing through the middle Be careful not to say anything positive about jevons - its not allowed! |
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Post by C.H on Jan 3, 2009 21:55:25 GMT 1
sorry today i thought making a sub was wrong should have kept the same team till the end unless jevons was wanting to go off but caders was doing there right back all game but when craney came on it was just long balls all the time i aint slating the team or the manager cos they played well but we should have kept with pace down the right wing I thought Cads was playing on the right wing? yeah i was saying he should have stayed there on the right wing and left jevons and parker upfront |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 22:00:08 GMT 1
Should have been Parker off not Jevons, at least Jevons stays central, with Parker and Cads, you're left with two players drifting wide and nothing through the middle Be careful not to say anything positive about jevons - its not allowed! [Whispers] I thought he played well [/Whispers] |
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Post by boothylegend on Jan 3, 2009 22:04:55 GMT 1
I thought it was the right sub, I might even have made it earlier. See Clark's just doing everything I would be doing, and look what's happening  . |
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Post by TerrierArmy on Jan 3, 2009 22:18:42 GMT 1
Jevons just needs a physical presences up front unfortunately for him Parker is not that. Jevons is slowly getting back to his best.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 3, 2009 22:21:33 GMT 1
Not sure what Jevons did to make you think that paulmat. Some of his little touches 40 yards from goal were ok when linking up with Roberts or somebody, but at the end of the day hes supposed to be a STRIKER. The one who gets on the end of things.
How many crosses, good ones too ,did we put into Oldhams box? How many times was it played into dangerous positions good strikers get goals from? From memory he got on the end of 1 cross and headed it well wide.
Jevons could still be playing now and he wouldn't have scored. The lack of a physical presence up front or at least a striker who looks like he might score the odd goal every now and then cost us 2 points today in a game we were comfortably the better side.
Jevons has played 717 minutes this season and not scored once. I bet you can count the number of times hes even come close to scoring on one hand.
I don't blame ritchie for signing him. He looked good when on loan and his track record wasn't bad at all, but hes been a monumentally disappointing signing in my opinion
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Post by Admin on Jan 3, 2009 22:25:04 GMT 1
Not sure what Jevons did to make you think that paulmat. Some of his little touches 40 yards from goal were ok when linking up with Roberts or somebody, but at the end of the day hes supposed to be a STRIKER. The one who gets on the end of things. How many crosses, good ones too ,did we put into Oldhams box? How many times was it played into dangerous positions good strikers get goals from? From memory he got on the end of 1 cross and headed it well wide. Jevons could still be playing now and he wouldn't have scored. The lack of a physical presence up front or at least a striker who looks like he might score the odd goal every now and then cost us 2 points today in a game we were comfortably the better side. Jevons has played 717 minutes this season and not scored once. I bet you can count the number of times hes even come close to scoring on one hand. I don't blame ritchie for signing him. He looked good when on loan and his track record wasn't bad at all, but hes been a monumentally disappointing signing in my opinion Didnt he have 3 pretty close attempts today cap'n? 2 headers and a curling left footer? He's so low on confidence its untrue. I cant really see him ever becoming established at town which is a shame as hes obviously a talented player. I much prefer him to parker personally but thats not saying a lot  |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 3, 2009 22:45:03 GMT 1
The curler that didn't curl at all and 2 unmemorable headers wide. In a game we dominated so much and had the ball in and around their goal SO many times, you've got to expect so much more from your striker?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2009 23:38:09 GMT 1
I just like some of the things he does. Manc is right, he's short on confidence, but he seems to be getting better with every game, and I'd rather have him collecting the ball and using it, rather than Parker tear-horsing down the channels and falling over. Neither of them are really producing, but I'd pick Jevons over Parker any day, especially with Cads playing the Parker role twice as well as Parker is.
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Jan 3, 2009 23:42:02 GMT 1
I think Jevo can do a job to be honest.
Much rather have him than parker................
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Post by henseventee on Jan 3, 2009 23:43:56 GMT 1
The curler that didn't curl at all Which stand are you in? If you're in the south end of the Antich you'd have seen a hell of a lot of movement from Jevons with that effort, beat the keeper and could easily have been the winning goal for us. |
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Post by andyfcuk85 on Jan 3, 2009 23:48:33 GMT 1
The curler that didn't curl at all Which stand are you in? If you're in the south end of the Antich you'd have seen a hell of a lot of movement from Jevons with that effort, beat the keeper and could easily have been the winning goal for us. I think if he gets a goal or two and a new strike partner we could have a danerous combo with him and someone whos prolific |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 4, 2009 1:52:17 GMT 1
The curler that didn't curl at all Which stand are you in? If you're in the south end of the Antich you'd have seen a hell of a lot of movement from Jevons with that effort, beat the keeper and could easily have been the winning goal for us. Middle of the antich, right behind the path of that 'curler'. He wasn't as poor today as he has been in other games but all his good work was done well away from their goal. If we're going to do anything we need a much better centre forward than jevons,simple as that. Parkers a frustrating little bugger, but I don't really see him as being the answer up front either cos hes similar to cads in that he does all his best work out wide. Jevons is the only 'true' striker we have at the moment but when he plays both our centre backs look far more likely to score than he does! |
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Post by HD8 Blue & White on Jan 4, 2009 8:54:58 GMT 1
IMO niether Parker or Jevons are quite good enough to get us where we need to be, simple as that really.
We had enough possesion and put enough quality balls into the box to have battered one of the best teams in L1 yesterday, but the simple truth is that we just didnt work thier keeper nearly enough.
Goals win games! Strikers should be judged on scoring goals, not fancy little flicks and bits of link up play 50 yds from the goals or headless chicken dasshes down the wing.
2 propper strikers soon as please Lee
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 4, 2009 9:27:37 GMT 1
Which stand are you in? If you're in the south end of the Antich you'd have seen a hell of a lot of movement from Jevons with that effort, beat the keeper and could easily have been the winning goal for us. Middle of the antich, right behind the path of that 'curler'. He wasn't as poor today as he has been in other games but all his good work was done well away from their goal. If we're going to do anything we need a much better centre forward than jevons,simple as that. Parkers a frustrating little bugger, but I don't really see him as being the answer up front either cos hes similar to cads in that he does all his best work out wide. Jevons is the only 'true' striker we have at the moment but when he plays both our centre backs look far more likely to score than he does! SLAPS hold your breath, I AGREE WITH YOU! |
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Post by sowerbyterrier2 on Jan 4, 2009 9:55:58 GMT 1
Middle of the antich, right behind the path of that 'curler'. He wasn't as poor today as he has been in other games but all his good work was done well away from their goal. If we're going to do anything we need a much better centre forward than jevons,simple as that. Parkers a frustrating little bugger, but I don't really see him as being the answer up front either cos hes similar to cads in that he does all his best work out wide. Jevons is the only 'true' striker we have at the moment but when he plays both our centre backs look far more likely to score than he does! SLAPS hold your breath, I AGREE WITH YOU! my thoughts too |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jan 4, 2009 14:09:30 GMT 1
I think Jevons is looking a lot better and was very unlucky not to score. When he finally gets one will it make a big difference to his confidence I wonder?
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Post by C.H on Jan 4, 2009 14:29:06 GMT 1
got to give them more chances together they have only played 2/3 games together they need a goal then maybe they will get going
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 14:37:11 GMT 1
Think it was a decent change to be honest think craney is as likely as anyone to grab a goal and gave them something to think about by moving cads who ws our best player going forward yesterday.
Prefer Jevons to Parker think he he was to play off a decent out and out striker he would look a different player. He is a link up forward who needs to play off someone rather than leading the line. He will get goals if he plays alongside the right man and he will also create more than he scores. I honestly expect to see a lot more from Jevons in the second half of this season if we bring in the right kind of striker.
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Post by timrankhan on Jan 4, 2009 15:08:38 GMT 1
I think Jevo can do a job to be honest. Much rather have him than parker................ Jevons looks woefully short on confidence, he looks afraid to do anything in case he makes a mistake IMO if he leaves, he'll score 10 goals at another club between now and end of season |
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Post by cdfan on Jan 4, 2009 17:38:46 GMT 1
How many times have I heard that a footballer is "short of confidence". As far as I am concerned, "short of confidence is football speak for "crap". Period.
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Post by Floyds on Jan 4, 2009 18:01:13 GMT 1
Jevons is a striker who hasnt scored since the final day of last season.
Quite simply, if we (or any other team for that matter) are to be successful, they need at least one striker who has scored more than 1 goal in half a season!
He might be short on confidence - but he still looks lightweight and doesnt look like scoring at all. That curling shot was a couple of yards wide and never looked like going in from where i sit (back middle Antich)
Parker wasnt much better though - and either one could have been taken off.
We desperately need someone with some presence up front. we looked good yesterday but had no cutting edge in the final third at all...
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 4, 2009 18:04:40 GMT 1
The only reason I didn't make it as a pro footballer was because I was always 'short on confidence' I reckon.
Eventually I became very confident I wasn't good enough.
Jevons doesn't lack confidence. He lacks the stomach for a battle and the ability we need in a striker. Don't see anything in his performances at all that warrent some of the patience he gets from some of you. Play him this way, play him that, needs this type of partner, just needs a goal...etc.
Meanwhile he swannies round the pitch being outmuscled by even the tinyest opposition player, avoiding the goal-scorer tables with complete 100% consistancy.
If someone wanted him on a free Id get him off the wage bill straight away
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Post by grist on Jan 4, 2009 18:07:55 GMT 1
How many times have I heard that a footballer is "short of confidence". As far as I am concerned, "short of confidence is football speak for "crap". Period. Sorry CDfan, but I couldn't disagree more. I played at a half decent level in the end but on each step up it wasn't until I felt that my teammates felt comfortable with me that I used to produce some good stuff. When I had just stepped up a level and wondered whether I had gone a step too far I used to make all sorts of fundamental mistakes like ball going under my foot etc. Once I settled in everything I did was instinctive rather than planned and that was the way I operated best. It may well be a feature of my psychological makeup that made me that way, but it was there without doubt. If I had a large 'anti' crowd to overcome like Jevons does, I dare say it would have taken me even longer to gain confidence and start performing to my potential. Jevons needs some goals and to be accepted otherwise we will never see his best IMO. You're probably right though,...... short of confidence means crap,...... but I was amazingly less crap when I was confident  |
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