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Post by scottieterrier on Jan 5, 2009 14:43:59 GMT 1
I honestly believe that it was ternent to blame for the poor performance of Dickinson, if we had him now he would be alot better, he is a quality player
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Post by NookTerrier on Jan 5, 2009 14:48:04 GMT 1
He's not the type of striker we are looking for, as we saw when he came here.
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Post by Dan on Jan 5, 2009 14:50:07 GMT 1
I honestly believe that it was ternent to blame for the poor performance of Dickinson, if we had him now he would be alot better, he is a quality player x2 |
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Post by townfan4ever on Jan 5, 2009 14:50:14 GMT 1
I would like to have him back. He got the goals which the strikers we have now aren't getting. If he worked with Lee Clark and the other's they would probably get the best out of him.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Jan 5, 2009 14:53:06 GMT 1
not sure why some on here wouldnt want someone who had a virtual 1 in 2 ratio in a distinctly ,at the time, average side. mind boggling  |
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Post by runner76 on Jan 5, 2009 14:56:55 GMT 1
I think any player would do better under the current management than Turnip, so yes!
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Post by Dan on Jan 5, 2009 15:04:42 GMT 1
not sure why some on here wouldnt want someone who had a virtual 1 in 2 ratio in a distinctly ,at the time, average side. mind boggling Said it at the time brian. The amount of abuse he got was unbelieveable for a striker with a 1 in 2 record... 'f**k off back to derby', lazy s***' etc. Calling Dickinson lazy, and now we're stuck with Jevons and Parker up front?! Be careful what you wish for town fans, Dickinson was the best striker we've had at the club since Stead, shame not many realised it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 15:10:55 GMT 1
not sure why some on here wouldnt want someone who had a virtual 1 in 2 ratio in a distinctly ,at the time, average side. mind boggling Said it at the time brian. The amount of abuse he got was unbelieveable for a striker with a 1 in 2 record... 'f**k off back to derby', lazy s***' etc. Calling Dickinson lazy, and now we're stuck with Jevons and Parker up front?! Be careful what you wish for town fans, Dickinson was the best striker we've had at the club since Stead, shame not many realised it. Completely agree. Many didn't like his languid laid-back style and he had a coupl eof poor games where things didn't work but, having seen him a few times for Stockport there's no doubt for me he'd grab 25 goals for us in this passing side given a full season. |
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Jan 5, 2009 15:20:27 GMT 1
i'd take a lazy languid 20+ a season over a hard working 10 anytime.best since stead definitely.
some town fans really do astound me to be honest. abbott was never the hardest worker but knew where net was and thats his job.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 5, 2009 15:30:46 GMT 1
He looked great for Stockport but was truely rubbish for us. If he's the best since Stead that's more a reflection on the poor strikers we've had then a commendation of Dickinson.
Takes a good free kick is all I can say for him. Can't hold up the ball, can't head the ball, his annoyingly useless flicks lost us possession time after time inviting the opposition to attack us again, had very little desire apart from the 5 mins after he'd scored and his tail was up, poor positioning too - rarely to be found in the penalty area when we were attacking.
There must be better out there for £750k.
Having said all that looking at his list of faults (in my eyes) they are all ones which can be coached out of him.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Jan 5, 2009 15:37:57 GMT 1
like i said, the mind boggles. poor in the air? one of his goals was a header boothy would have been proud of at the fantastic media end. cant be arsed looking to see exact stats but pretty sure its near as dammit 1 in 2. not exactly rubbish, eh!  |
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Post by HD8 Blue & White on Jan 5, 2009 15:40:01 GMT 1
I honestly believe that it was ternent to blame for the poor performance of Dickinson, if we had him now he would be alot better, he is a quality player Agreed 100% |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Jan 5, 2009 15:40:52 GMT 1
He's not the type of striker we are looking for, as we saw when he came here. What? The type that scores goals? |
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Jan 5, 2009 15:44:58 GMT 1
PMSL berty ;D
spot on. have a positive!
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Post by Mastercracker on Jan 5, 2009 15:53:03 GMT 1
Hes a decent player. Just because he's 6 foot 3/4 does not make him a target man, as Turnip seemed to think. He'd thrive with the ball on the floor and into the channels. I'd have him back in an instant.
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Post by scottieterrier on Jan 5, 2009 15:58:31 GMT 1
If I remember correctly when Ternent substituted him, Dickinson had a go at Ternent or did something if I'm not mistaken correct me if I'm wrong so that is why I'm asking about managerial quality on the reflection of players
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Post by terrierpark on Jan 5, 2009 16:25:57 GMT 1
"Dickinson was the best striker we've had at the club since Stead"
You obviously dont think abbott was any good then.
Dickinson would be better now am sure, but i would rather have pavel back than him any day. For a big man he didnt use his frame and stature to his advantage, he lost the ball countless times and didnt seem that bothered when he had lost it. For all the hammer Parker is getting at the moment IMO at least he looks like he,s trying.
NOW Dickinson and another striker then yes maybe but to have him alone as our main goal threat up front no thanks
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 5, 2009 16:27:38 GMT 1
Poor in the air yes. He couldn't/wouldn't jump for a start, rarely ever won a header against a centre back in open play or at set pieces which for a guy of his height is surprising.
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Post by pozza on Jan 5, 2009 19:06:10 GMT 1
He looked great for Stockport but was truely rubbish for us. He scored 6 goals in 13 games for us, and has scored 4 in 7 at Blackpool. He scores goals, something were cleary lacking at the moment. He'd be perfect IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 19:18:28 GMT 1
i think liam dicko was the best striker we have had since jon stead.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 19:27:53 GMT 1
i think liam dicko was the best striker we have had since jon stead. Have we had a good striker since Jon Stead, not really. Abbott had a good season and a half and i would say he was a better player than Dickinson during that season and a half. Obviously not at the moment going on the leagues they are playing in. We need someone to put their head on the end of these awesome balls in to the box, dickinson ducked or bottled every header so he would but just as naff as when he was last here |
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Post by martin27 on Jan 5, 2009 19:29:57 GMT 1
love to see boothy playing up front,especially when clark gets the tempo hes looking for,boothy can pass better with his head than dickinson can with his feet
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Post by pozza on Jan 5, 2009 19:39:21 GMT 1
We need someone to put their head on the end of these awesome balls in to the box, dickinson ducked or bottled every header so he would but just as naff as when he was last here I must have dremt the header he scored then  |
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Post by thrice on Jan 5, 2009 19:41:00 GMT 1
love to see boothy playing up front,especially when clark gets the tempo hes looking for,boothy can pass better with his head than dickinson can with his feet The truth is we have been spoiled for years with Booth. Hence people think that every target man must be able to do what Booth does so effortlessly. We will have to find a real gem (or two) to replace him when he finally calls it a day and we may never find anyone who can do what Booth does best. Dickinson was a fine player however. As well as goals and pace he had YOUTH. Given time you never know he may have grown some bigger balls and learnt to jump too. He has only been a pro for two full seasons after all. |
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Post by martin27 on Jan 5, 2009 19:42:30 GMT 1
dickinson might be good in clarks team cos he liked his little flicks and touches
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Post by jimharrogate on Jan 5, 2009 20:10:14 GMT 1
"Said it at the time brian. The amount of abuse he got was unbelieveable for a striker with a 1 in 2 record... 'f**k off back to derby', lazy s***' etc.
Calling Dickinson lazy, and now we're stuck with Jevons and Parker up front?! Be careful what you wish for town fans, Dickinson was the best striker we've had at the club since Stead, shame not many realised it"
Agree with you Dan
We should have taken him on loan for the season and with another striker he would have been scoring regularly for us.
He was often left as a lone striker in Stans teams and was up against it every game.
The trouble is some of Town's younger fans have never seen good footballers and don't appreciate skill-we've had too many years in the lower divisions.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jan 5, 2009 20:18:20 GMT 1
I was with you (altho in disagreement) until you mentioned the words Dickinson and skill. Fair do's he did manage a good strike rate but he certainly had little skill when running with the ball or at bringing other people into the game or at much else other than free kicks.
Andy Payton had a good strike rate too but I think the general concensus is that he wasn't good for the team and only cared about his own strike rate, well I'd level a similar accusation at Dickinson. He'll do well somewhere I imagine but with the funds we have and the requirement we have for a target man (or someone who can at least win a few headers) then Dickinson is certainly not for us this time.
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Post by shelbourne on Jan 5, 2009 20:21:38 GMT 1
Pavel Abbott over Stead for me.I would love to see if a now fit again PV would flourish under the managerial qualities of Town at the moment.Can we get him on loan.OK I know its just a thought but it would be good if we could
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jan 5, 2009 20:25:16 GMT 1
Dickinson can trap a ball further than I could kick one.
Scores goals though. A precious commodity. That's why those that do it most often command large fees.
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Post by Tez on Jan 5, 2009 20:26:02 GMT 1
I said that to my mate the other week about maybe bringing Pav back. He would indeed flourish with the current managerial set up... Ah well, we can dream. |
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