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Post by Terrier9 on Jan 18, 2009 8:43:19 GMT 1
I think by Leicester its maybe fair to say if things go to plan one will lose their place, I maybe the only town to say i felt both seemed to have improved, i think Jevo had quite a good game and Sat was the first time i think i have the pace of parker.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 10:55:55 GMT 1
I'd drop them both, they don't know where the goal is, but IMO parker puts more effort in than Jevons. Roberts had made a run down the right in the second half yesterday, and both the 'attackers' were jogging forward putting absolutely no pressure on the swindon defence. It could easily have been 5 or 6 - 0 yesterday, and any other attacking duo in this league would have had a goal each, absolutely no problem.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 18, 2009 11:07:25 GMT 1
both of them and i would play booth and new face.
i am hoping for 2 new faces!
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Post by dogfight on Jan 18, 2009 11:48:27 GMT 1
think jevons is the more intelegent of the 2 and also has a better touch but parker has the pace to worry defenders! so its a close one but jevons just shades it for me. who knows neither might be playing next sat if things change this week UTT
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Post by Rambo on Jan 18, 2009 11:55:04 GMT 1
Jevons for me. Parker has never scored more than 20 in a season and watching the team yesterday it appeared that they wll want Jevons and Parker on the scoresheet. Reading the programme notes from Craney, they were all made up for Jevons breaking his seaon duck and Parker was so desperate to score yesterday.
I really feel for them both and they each have things to offer. I'm not sure they work well together. We need someone with presence IMO.
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Post by CREDERE!!!!! on Jan 18, 2009 12:03:53 GMT 1
i must watch a different team on a saturday afternoons to some, i think we are a decent team, except up front where we have no presence at all, parker and jevons have both been given time to show what there about and have failed. id love to see clark buy a decent striker, and get a decent young up and coming lad on loan for the season, plus, have boothy on the bench to come on if alls not going to plan. if we did that- we would go up no doubt...
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Post by malcolmbrown on Jan 18, 2009 12:11:08 GMT 1
What I can't understand is how they manage to be so invisible. It was literally playing with 9 players yesterday. Do they know what the penalty area is and that it is their job to be there when the wingers are sending in crosses.
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Post by huddersviking on Jan 18, 2009 12:21:35 GMT 1
i just got to say, some of you town fans are so negative is embrassing! jevo and parker, have not been playing that long up front with each other, and need some time to gell! y/days game was the 1st time i saw signs that they were starting to play well 2gther, if one went wide the other went into the box, where as in the past they were both going wide! they need time and the so called fans coming on here and blasting them is just a joke, you might as well be a dirty leeds fan!
get off the players back and get behind them!
yes we do need a new striker or two, but we dont have any new players yet, so lets support the ones we do have!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 12:33:44 GMT 1
agrreeed
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Post by cdfan on Jan 18, 2009 12:50:07 GMT 1
Neither are good enough for the Championship. I don't know who to vote for. As someone said, neither has any presence in the box. Until we get a new man, I'd put anyone else at the club up front who's got a bit of get up and go and would cause their defence a few problems. Both Mr Slow Motion and Mr Midget have to go if we want to progress.
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Post by Tez on Jan 18, 2009 12:51:01 GMT 1
I'd probably drop Parker. Although, i'd much prefer two shiny new strikers up front to choose from.
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Post by specialun on Jan 18, 2009 12:57:18 GMT 1
Depends who he brings in and the shape he wants to play.
Both would be better with a different partner - parker would look much better alongside a big man rather than running in diagnols towards the corner flags, yet there is a reason he has only scored 1 goal in 43 games.
Jevons is more adaptable and is looking better by the week - he could scored 1 in 2.5ish in a decent team, but you'rre getting his link play and composure to make the 'right decision' as well.
For me, its got to be parker dropped. I said at the start of the season that we should have been looking for a strike partnership of Jevons and ANOTHER - being someone with strength and a bit of pace.
Its all far too easy to say if we had a decent striker we would have won by 4 or 5 etc, but people fail to appreciate parker stretching teams or the link play with jevons - he played 4 or 5 through balls for roberts, cadders and parker yesterday.
Imo, jevons and a striker who can poach and has a bit of presence about them along with roberts and cadamarteri attacking with pace and width offers a bit of everything - pace, inteligence, strength, someone to drop deep to link play, someone to stay central, someone to get beyond etc.
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Post by townatheart on Jan 18, 2009 13:01:13 GMT 1
i just got to say, some of you town fans are so negative is embrassing! jevo and parker, have not been playing that long up front with each other, and need some time to gell! y/days game was the 1st time i saw signs that they were starting to play well 2gther, if one went wide the other went into the box, where as in the past they were both going wide! they need time and the so called fans coming on here and blasting them is just a joke, you might as well be a dirty leeds fan! get off the players back and get behind them! yes we do need a new striker or two, but we dont have any new players yet, so lets support the ones we do have! fair comment, and realistic attitude. it is okay to be critical of players, particularily on here and NOT shouting abuse at them during a match, it is also okay for us fans to develop the same positive attitude being used by Lee Clark towards the players.
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Post by wokingterrier on Jan 18, 2009 13:02:50 GMT 1
Jevons has the intelligence, composure in and around the box, and the better touch. I don't really see what Parker offers us in a team with Cads and Roberts on the wings if he can't bang them in as well as run fast. Plus Parker never sunk liverpool with an absolute scorcher in the last few minutes of extra time uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bRt1KMGYTe8Shame he seems a shade of a player with that level of confidence at the mo.
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Post by Tez on Jan 18, 2009 13:04:48 GMT 1
Cracking strike that. What was Jevo doing so deep? ;D
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Post by SN0W on Jan 18, 2009 13:09:05 GMT 1
Jevons always seems to be underperforming.... yesterday with a bit more effort he could have won headers and run into goal scoring postions.... but he seems to give up.... he needs dosing with caffeine, red bull or whatever before he comes on to keep him awake throughout the game cos technically he is very good...
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Post by bro600 on Jan 18, 2009 13:23:58 GMT 1
Funnily enough i'd say Parker away from home and Jevons at home. They would both benefit from a decent battering ram type of centre forward who scored a few as then they would be able to score their own sort of goals from the bits and pieces. Martin Smith was similar to both and scored a lot of goals because he had a licence to roam where he wanted and Jon Stead fed off Boothy's presence to get the room he needed. I reckon we need them both in and around the team and should stop writing players off just because they are finding it hard to get match fit/ have personal problems or are just off form. Good/promotion winning sides have the likes of Jevons and Parker doing their bit over 46 games and in and out of the team when needed or in good form. Some supporters just look at who should be in the starting 11 without giving consideration to when Cadematri/Boothy/Roberts/ etc etc etc get injured.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 13:38:42 GMT 1
I'd drop Parker and i think he is one of the players we should be looking to offload in this window. I have seen nothing of him since he came here to suggest he has what it takes. I think Jevons would be a good player in a good side alongside a big strong stiker his interplay, vission and passes will create more than he scores himself but he has proved before that he knows where the back of the net is. Parker is not good enough for me, he goes down far too easily and seems unable to understnad the offside rule. He is another poor signing Stan has left us stuck with.
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Post by Rambo on Jan 18, 2009 13:51:26 GMT 1
Jevons would have scored yesterday hadn't Butler taken it off his head for the 2nd!!!
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Post by wonderousworthy on Jan 18, 2009 13:57:59 GMT 1
I'd drop Parker and i think he is one of the players we should be looking to offload in this window. I have seen nothing of him since he came here to suggest he has what it takes. I think Jevons would be a good player in a good side alongside a big strong stiker his interplay, vission and passes will create more than he scores himself but he has proved before that he knows where the back of the net is. Parker is not good enough for me, he goes down far too easily and seems unable to understnad the offside rule. He is another poor signing Stan has left us stuck with. With you 100% here! Jevons is more intelligent and makes better uns and can hold the ball up whilst Parker just constantly runs offside and when he has the ball gets tackled too easily. If we had another goos winger i would put Cads up there but lets just hope Clark can get the right man in up front
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 18, 2009 14:51:17 GMT 1
Both of them. Jevons does all his decent work 40 yards from goal and is a lightweight striker who can't score. Parker is a right midfielder but nowhere near as good as cads or Roberts. Neither of them are the answer, but if I had to drop just 1 it would be Jevons, cos at least parker makes some kind of impact on the game. More often than not you forget Jevons is even out there.
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Post by chaz2508 on Jan 18, 2009 15:39:36 GMT 1
I would say Jevons as he doesnt really do much although he is improving imo Parker gets space and gets the ball and holds it up for us like he did yesterday to create Collins goal and thats the second time he has done it for us
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Post by towny4ever on Jan 18, 2009 20:28:10 GMT 1
I can't believe the majority want Parker dropped.
He will score far more goals than Jevons if playing off a target man.
PJ is so far off the pace - he has talent but he is a link player not an out & out forward. He had a poor game yesterday at least KP looks like he is giving his all whilst not comming off at the moment.
He is also very lightweight which wrankles me when a pler doesn't get stuck in whoever he is!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jan 18, 2009 20:44:41 GMT 1
both strikers have to go,,, we have the best two widemen in the league but what options have they got? neither central striker were really born to play there,, both good technically,,and both put a shift in yesterday,, but too lightweight,, and with the desire or hunger of a proven scorer,,,we were tremendous yesterday but football is about goals and we nearly ended up shooting ourselves in the foot
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Post by specialun on Jan 18, 2009 20:53:04 GMT 1
Bothe jveons and parker must take a little credit for the way we have playing! After all, we had a poacher last season in beckett who poached but did very very little else besides.
The point being that its about balance. We have a good balance about the team with pace, width, shape etc but do lack a striker to poach. But jevons and to a degree parker have been involved in the build up play which allows the likes of roberts/cadders to get the ball in the right area.
It doens't necessarily have to be both that go - after all we have won 8 out of the last 12 despite not having a out and out goal scorer - not saying we don't need one, WE DO!, but its not like we have to change the entire team and suddenly need to get rid of all the strikers we have!
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